Tobacco Absolute - A Flavor All By Itself.

[mommabird62]

I'll contribute to bumping as well dixie [emoji4]

The other day I made three recipes with my diluted version of rustica. One with a cherry cigar, a vanilla pipe and a cuban TA. Didn't have time for the crockpot steep that day so I will do that today [emoji4]


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[JD1]

I'll contribute to bumping as well dixie [emoji4]

The other day I made three recipes with my diluted version of rustica. One with a cherry cigar, a vanilla pipe and a cuban TA. Didn't have time for the crockpot steep that day so I will do that today [emoji4]


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Mommabird62

Sounds good. What cherry and vanilla are you using?

 

[mommabird62]

Sounds good. What cherry and vanilla are you using?

All three were the Inawera ones. The Cuban is a TA. And I added a touch of Samara Rustica to all three.


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[JD1]

All three were the Inawera ones. The Cuban is a TA. And I added a touch of Samara Rustica to all three.


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Mommabird62

I have Inawera Cherry and Cherries. I like them both but I like them mixed better than either one alone. I've been trying to think of something to rescue some Inawera Western Blend I have so I think I'll try some cherry and Rustica and see what that does for it. I feel a little mixing session coming on for this evening lol.

 

[mommabird62]

I haven't tried them yet. Still steeping but they really smell good. It was cherry cigar and vanilla pipe that I used. The third was a cuban TA. I did a crockpot steep yesterday on them so I will break into them soon [emoji3]


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[JD1]

........ It was cherry cigar and vanilla pipe .........

Ah, of course. Vanilla for pipe is one of my favorites. I'm not sure why I took your original statement the wrong way. I thought you were mixing cherry plus cigar plus Rustica etc lol. Old age I guess.

 

[mommabird62]

LOL It may have been the way I worded it as well JD1 I understand about old age and old eyes. LOL

I may just fill up one of my squonkers with one of these in just a bit to give a try. Looking forward to seeing what the rustica brings to the picture. I have low setting, crockpot steeped it all so I'm hoping it's ready. If, not will let them sit awhile longer.

 

[mommabird62]

Loaded a Woodvil with the Rustica/Vanilla pipe and really liking it Using a Derringer with dual twisted coils at .50 ohms. The Rustica really shines with the vanilla pipe in the background. I can tell that it will even get better with time. This is a keeper!

 

[JD1]

I wound up mixing Rustica, Ina Western Blend, and Ina Cherries. The Western has a little sour note, I think from cranberry, that jars my sweet tooth a little when I try it stand a lone. I tried a little fresh mixed and I think the Rustica and Cherries is going to work great with this for a good change of pace vape. I've got about 6 ml steeping so time will tell.

 

[Dixie1954]

Since my usage of tobacco flavorings are down to .1%, can anyone give me an idea of how to dilute the Rustica?? I know I need to go wayyyyyyyyyy down - I can always add another drop or so.

 

[mommabird62]

Dixie, I diluted mine down to 10%. I used 50/50 pga/pg. And steeped. I use about 2% of this mix in my recipes but I like my flavors on the strong side. I used it with other tobacco flavors and not stand alone. Hope this helps.


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[JD1]

I'm doing some guessing here but I'd say mix 5ml pg with 5ml of pga for your base, warm the Rustica paste and add 2 drops of it to your 10ml base. Start testing your new flavor at 1 drop per 2ml of base, then go from there. Keeps it fairly easy that way.

 

[tierrataz]

This cherry talk sparked an idea. I have TPA cherry blossom. Since the honeysuckle played well with Rustica, why not? Made a tiny sample (3ml) adding one drop CB. On shake & vape this shows promise.

The honeysuckle recipe update: reduced honeysuckle to 3 drops/10ml Rustica. Much better.

 

[bekka]

Have a brand or site you would recommend? I have some from ECX that I've had no luck with. It's pre-dilluted 50%, but no matter if i use it as is, or dilute it further, I get no flavor, not even a bad flavor.

I have had the same experience with the Tobacco Absolute from ECX....no flavor. So, I decided to get some undiluted TA and make my own. I ordered a small sample from Eden Botanicals to try out before I invested a lot of money into it. It is from Bulgarian Tobacco. Anyway it got damaged in the mail so I emailed Eden Botanicals and they are sending me the 1/16th size (the next larger size) for free to make up for the hassle! Hopefully their TA is as great as their customer service!

 

[Mad Scientist]

After reading this thread, last week I ordered 2 ml of the Rustica from SB. Should arrive Monday. I can't wait lol.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Well, another bump and yet another TA novice summarizing the process lol.

I received the Rustica and did exactly as follows, just as instructed in this thread at least as I understood it:

1. Warm the Rustica in a shallow pan of very hot water (like 200 F) -- it does melt into a liquid
2. Add it to your mixing bottle and mix at 10% Rustica, 45% PGA, 45% PG
3. Warm the resulting mixture in the shallow pan of very hot water
4. Shake, reheat, shake, reheat, etc. A few cycles of this seem to do the job.

The Rustica does mix in and the result is a black looking mixture (the "black mix") that must really be a very, very dark green because the residue on the sides of the bottle is green. The resulting mix has a very pleasant almost floral, sweet tobacco smell.

As another interesting result, the syringe used to measure the Rustica is now labeled as dedicated for TA -- it will never come completely clean no matter what I rinse it with lol.

Next to taste it. I plan to start by adding it to a VZ "tobacco" juice I mix at 3% of the flavoring. I assume I start with 0.5 % of the "black mix" and go from there? The VZ tobacco is an extremely light tobacco flavor, almost hard to taste because it is such a light flavor. I am hoping the TA will really punch it up and also allow me to taste what the TA adds.

 

[JD1]

....... I plan to start by adding it to a VZ "tobacco" juice I mix at 3% of the flavoring. I assume I start with 0.5 % of the "black mix" and go from there? The VZ tobacco is an extremely light tobacco flavor, almost hard to taste because it is such a light flavor. I am hoping the TA will really punch it up and also allow me to taste what the TA adds.

That's probably a good place to start and may be spot on for you, depending on how strong you like your 'baccy, and you can always add a little more. I usually use it at 1 to 2 percent (of the 10% solution) when adding to other tobacco's but I like it fairly stout. Looking forward to your review.

 

[mommabird62]

Sounds like you got a good handle on it MS[emoji4] And I did the same with the syringe. LOL I use my mix at 2% but like JD, I'm a flavor junkie. I mix mine with other tobaccos as well. So far I have three mixes. A vanilla pipe, cherry cigar and a cuban TA that came out nicely. Have a little time today and may do a couple of others. Have a of couple more TAs that I want to try with the rustica and may also do a peachy one. Been wanting a nice peachy tobacco but haven't really gotten one that hits the spot yet.


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[Mad Scientist]

That's probably a good place to start and may be spot on for you, depending on how strong you like your 'baccy, and you can always add a little more. I usually use it at 1 to 2 percent (of the 10% solution) when adding to other tobacco's but I like it fairly stout. Looking forward to your review.

Good advice, thanks. The shake and vape result at 0.5 was good but too light so upped to 1% and tastes to me as a very tasty added raisin / grassy note with maybe a really slight hint of wood (oak ? / cedar?). I left it at 1% for now to see where this batch ends up. I plan to taste again at 1 week and then 2 weeks. I can't ever hold off for more than 2 weeks lol. May up to 2% at that point and try stouter. I could definitely see this taste even as a stand alone for me - it is definitely that good even without steeping. It looks like road tar in its raw form but certainly tastes good once mixed lol.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Sounds like you got a good handle on it MS[emoji4] And I did the same with the syringe. LOL I use my mix at 2% but like JD, I'm a flavor junkie. I mix mine with other tobaccos as well. So far I have three mixes. A vanilla pipe, cherry cigar and a cuban TA that came out nicely. Have a little time today and may do a couple of others. Have a of couple more TAs that I want to try with the rustica and may also do a peachy one. Been wanting a nice peachy tobacco but haven't really gotten one that hits the spot yet.


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Mommabird62

Agreed, like you and JD1, I can definitely see going 2% with this for solid flavor. It's very different than I expected -- much better. Many artificial flavors seem to start tasting really bad as the % ramps up but this natural flavor doesn't seem to be like that at all. Just gets more of the same good flavor.