Would,'t it just be easier to not put yourself in that situation again? Just wait till you leave the store and vape like crazy..Stay calm.
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Yea when I'm out I have my normal eroll which I love. But I also have a 510 with a carto which I use in places like the movie theatre, store or whatever. The eroll performs better so it's more work to stealth with that device. The 510 is easier.
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Agreed, if the line was long and you were waiting why not go out side. Go to the car, and no one could say anything.
Someone needs to figure out how to make a PV that looks like an asthma inhaler. Then, go into a populated place vaping on a normal PV, and see how many comments you get. Then, go into the same populated place with your asthma inhaler look-a-like, take a vape, and see how many people don't give it a second look....even if you breath out a little vapor.
The fact is that people are scared of their own f---ing shadow these days. They allow themselves to be fearmongered into believing everything is harmful to them if the media says so. They aren't afraid of the steaming caffeine coming off a cup of coffee, because the media doesn't fearmonger people about it.
Just stealth the s--t out of it, or don't do it at all. We live amongst crybabies these days, and you'll always be on the losing end if you get caught.
The fact is that people are scared of their own f---ing shadow these days. They allow themselves to be fearmongered into believing everything is harmful to them if the media says so. They aren't afraid of the steaming caffeine coming off a cup of coffee, because the media doesn't fearmonger people about it.
Just stealth the s--t out of it, or don't do it at all. We live amongst crybabies these days, and you'll always be on the losing end if you get caught.
Why would one do that? Its not smoking so it makes no sense treating as such. I may as well stop drinking water in public because liquor isnt allowed, I mean it looks like vodka, so the logic is sound right?
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You were asked not to vape in an establishment. Its their business so I advise doing as they request. Dont argue or throw a hissy fit. If you're really that unsure track down a manager and speak to them about it in a mature fashion. Maybe even educate them if they're receptive to it. If you dont agree dont give them your business in the future.
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I have to agree with some of the others. If you are consciously stealth vaping then you are already hip to the fact that you probably shouldn't be vaping at this establishment. I say this regardless of whether you are stealth vaping in an attempt to avoid dirty looks, confrontation, being eighty-sixed, etc.
I stealth vape all the time and I know damn well that I shouldn't be doing it. I've only been confronted one time. It was at a bar, I gave the bouncer a deer in the headlights look, told him a "I'm so sorry sir, I didn't realize, my b..." apology, and that was that. No hard feelings. The place has a rule and he is there to enforce the numerous rules of the establishment.
I wouldn't say anything or try to educate somebody about PV's unless they asked specific questions later. I'm sure there are some people who would honestly listen, but for the most part I think it will do more harm than good. They will look at it as a defense and that will just embolden them more to not like PV's. My 7 cents.
I stealth vape all the time and I know damn well that I shouldn't be doing it. I've only been confronted one time. It was at a bar, I gave the bouncer a deer in the headlights look, told him a "I'm so sorry sir, I didn't realize, my b..." apology, and that was that. No hard feelings. The place has a rule and he is there to enforce the numerous rules of the establishment.
I wouldn't say anything or try to educate somebody about PV's unless they asked specific questions later. I'm sure there are some people who would honestly listen, but for the most part I think it will do more harm than good. They will look at it as a defense and that will just embolden them more to not like PV's. My 7 cents.
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whether it is stealth vaping or cloud chasing in a non smoking environment ... either one is not helping the cause.
If we ever want bar owners and cafe owners to have choices as to whether to allow vaping in their establishments ... everyone needs to stop vaping in grocery stores and like places ... or the no vape choice will be made for everyone.
If we ever want bar owners and cafe owners to have choices as to whether to allow vaping in their establishments ... everyone needs to stop vaping in grocery stores and like places ... or the no vape choice will be made for everyone.
There are times that I wish ECF had a "Dislike" button. This is one of those times.
It's all right there in the Declaration people. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" (even though the OP still lives under the tyranny of the Queen I think it should still apply. Plus his country created Kate Beckensale so England rocks) that vaping in public places and private establishments makes him happy so he should be able to do it. After all, some people can't make it through a whole movie, a whole dinner or a whole shopping trip with vaping. Should their happiness and liberty be held hostage because of their lack of self control???? I think not. It's a slippery slope. Just 150 years ago in the old west, everyone had a gun and you could just pull it out and shoot it any where, no one complained. Now when I pull out a gun at Starbucks, everyone drops their coffee and throws their wallets at me, which is great cause I didn't even ask but then the police show up and I end up getting a endoscopy and am forced to wear that hideous orange color (thank goodness I can pull it off and make it look good but most can't) for a few weeks! Where does it end? What right will they ask for next? Will they ask us to stop drinking and driving? It's not nearly as much fun driving into a mall and recreating the scene from Blues Brother sober. I found that out last week. I'm sure going through that pet store would have been much more fun if I was loaded but running over all those hamsters and puppies sober, that was just sad. I felt like a monster.
I advocate for vape everywhere. Once again, I've come across a thread on ECF that hasn't made me budge from that political stance.
Yet, part of 'vape everywhere' has to include what OP went thru, chose to vape in spot and got caught by clerk who thinks it is against store policy, so chose to not fight it and put it away.
Didn't get kicked out, wasn't asked to leave the premises, just told not to do that in here.
I think you (OP) handled it well. If it were me, and I cared to go back to that same place in the future, I'd make an appointment with highest manager in organization and be prepared to discuss eCigs as thoroughly as that person will allow. If they still wouldn't budge, and I found their responses based on ignorance (which I currently deem likely), I'd look for another place that offers same products/services. I'd probably also mention this to the manager near end of the discussion, but that's just me.
One other thing... if I did go back to that store, I'd have about a 25% chance of vaping, openly but in way that is fairly well aware of my surroundings. Pass all the laws you want, I'm still going to vape in public. I'm yet to be caught so my luck so far has made me this way. Well that and loads of evidence currently on side of vaping community.
Yet, part of 'vape everywhere' has to include what OP went thru, chose to vape in spot and got caught by clerk who thinks it is against store policy, so chose to not fight it and put it away.
Didn't get kicked out, wasn't asked to leave the premises, just told not to do that in here.
I think you (OP) handled it well. If it were me, and I cared to go back to that same place in the future, I'd make an appointment with highest manager in organization and be prepared to discuss eCigs as thoroughly as that person will allow. If they still wouldn't budge, and I found their responses based on ignorance (which I currently deem likely), I'd look for another place that offers same products/services. I'd probably also mention this to the manager near end of the discussion, but that's just me.
One other thing... if I did go back to that store, I'd have about a 25% chance of vaping, openly but in way that is fairly well aware of my surroundings. Pass all the laws you want, I'm still going to vape in public. I'm yet to be caught so my luck so far has made me this way. Well that and loads of evidence currently on side of vaping community.
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Didn't we also go years and years not smoking in our own residences and/or car? Why would it suddenly make sense to vape in these locations if we wouldn't smoke there?
Yup. Wah-h-h-h-h! They won't let me vape in the supermarket. Wah-h-h-h-h-h-h-! Sob! Life isn't fair.
Everyone always assume that companies don't allow vaping in their establishments because they're ignorant about vaping. I've found that's not the case. Those in charge are fairly well informed, but still choose not to allow it in their place of business, for many reasons. As I've mentioned before, if I owned a restaurant, I wouldn't allow it either. It's a business decision. No different than not allowing someone to walk around Target drinking a 5th of Whiskey. Whiskey is certainly legal. Or enforcing footwear. Last I checked, being barefoot was legal too.
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