That's correct. Instead you use a dripping atomizer and a drip tip.
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That's correct. Instead you use a dripping atomizer and a drip tip.
cool, thanks flyer.
Is there anything that i need to be carefull about with fittings. For example if i was to buy the pacakge stated there, + the cisco lr 360 1.8 attomizer + a drip trip would it all fit together nicely? Sorry to hijack this thread it seems there is so much beneficial information adding to it can only help others who come along.
Is there anything that i need to be carefull about with fittings. For example if i was to buy the pacakge stated there, + the cisco lr 360 1.8 attomizer + a drip trip would it all fit together nicely? Sorry to hijack this thread it seems there is so much beneficial information adding to it can only help others who come along.
I also was almost 2 pack a day smoker and went with KGO in beginning and quickly moved to a VV. Just be careful and think this out. I got the twist and the torpedo VV from totally wicked. I have not looked back and love to vape more than smoking. It is so relaxing and I love the flavors. Good Luck!!!
Im a little sceptical of using totally wicked as they threatened a uk vap forum with legal action forcing them to close. Legally totally wicked have no right to do this but the owner was just a normal guy and didnt really have a clue, so just shut it down as he wasnt making any money out the forum it was a free one (like this i think), I will have a look at the torpedo VV though? do you drip or use carts?
(if you want to know more about the totally wicked have a look here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...055-totally-wicked-closes-down-uk-vapers.html
dont want this thread to go off topic thats all
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(if you want to know more about the totally wicked have a look here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...055-totally-wicked-closes-down-uk-vapers.html
dont want this thread to go off topic thats all
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The Cisco is a very good atty. You need to match the resistance of the atty to the voltage of your PV. This is generally not a problem with a VV PV, assuming you use it correctly. For a fixed voltage PV like a KGO which delivers 3.7V, I would not use a 1.8 ohm atty as it might give a burnt flavor and will definitely eat the battery charge quicker. Go with something in the low to mid 2 ohm range but not over 2.5 ohms.
Dripping is not for everyone... most people prefer cartos and anyway you still kind of need to 'drip' to top them up..... Unless of course you prefer dripping on an atty? In that case just ignore me... lol. Why do you want to drip btw? Have you tried cartos and/or clearos?
Same here! That is what I recommend to noobs here on the ECF, and the same as the kits I put together for noob friends and family members. Except I would have 1X Twist and 2X 650 mAh bateries (total of 3 batteries). I also throw in a Stardust and a EMDCC.
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I realize you've already placed your order, but for any other newbies who might be following this thread and haven't ordered their set up yet---
I started with an 808 and then moved to an Ego-C with cartridges before ending up with Twists and a Provari Mini with tanks and Stardusts. If I could go back and do it over again, I would order four Twists, a charger, and some Stardusts. I would skip the kit altogether since I never use the cartridges that came with it (too much hassle and taste like plastic). I would start with the Twist because most vapers end up going to VV pretty fast so you can avoid paying for something you are probably going to move on from in a matter of weeks. I love my Provari Mini, but honestly, I reach for my Twist just as often and use it when out and about all the time (Provari too big and expensive to take on errands and evenings out). I think Stardusts give great vapor and flavor and they are easy to fill. They also hold quite a bit of juice, so you don't have to fill as often as with a plastic cartridge (I always had a terrible time prying those hard plastic caps off and ended up with juice all over my fingers).
I have nothing to gain by recommending the Twist, but for me, once I tried mine, a whole new world was opened up and vaping went from being satisfactory to being delightful. The volume, warmth, and flavor of the vapor was instantly noticeable as being much improved.
To each his or her own, but a couple of Twists paired with Stardusts is what I would recommend to anyone just starting out.
Good luck!
I started with an 808 and then moved to an Ego-C with cartridges before ending up with Twists and a Provari Mini with tanks and Stardusts. If I could go back and do it over again, I would order four Twists, a charger, and some Stardusts. I would skip the kit altogether since I never use the cartridges that came with it (too much hassle and taste like plastic). I would start with the Twist because most vapers end up going to VV pretty fast so you can avoid paying for something you are probably going to move on from in a matter of weeks. I love my Provari Mini, but honestly, I reach for my Twist just as often and use it when out and about all the time (Provari too big and expensive to take on errands and evenings out). I think Stardusts give great vapor and flavor and they are easy to fill. They also hold quite a bit of juice, so you don't have to fill as often as with a plastic cartridge (I always had a terrible time prying those hard plastic caps off and ended up with juice all over my fingers).
I have nothing to gain by recommending the Twist, but for me, once I tried mine, a whole new world was opened up and vaping went from being satisfactory to being delightful. The volume, warmth, and flavor of the vapor was instantly noticeable as being much improved.
To each his or her own, but a couple of Twists paired with Stardusts is what I would recommend to anyone just starting out.
Good luck!
Jude could you put a list of everything that you use (not the expensive stuff though haha) is a twist a atomizer of sorts?
Hell ya don't want to miss out on anything, might just as well buy them all 
The reason I say that is because I have no idea what will be the perfect setup for someone else. I can tell you what works (and what doesn't) for me. I can tell you that you can get a pretty fair vape from relatively inexpensive equipment, and I can tell you that you can get the worse vaping experience you ever imagined from the best equipment made any time you want.
So the best I can suggest is to listen to what the good people here are saying, and if something perks you interest ... try it ... you won't know if you will like it if you don't
The reason I say that is because I have no idea what will be the perfect setup for someone else. I can tell you what works (and what doesn't) for me. I can tell you that you can get a pretty fair vape from relatively inexpensive equipment, and I can tell you that you can get the worse vaping experience you ever imagined from the best equipment made any time you want.
So the best I can suggest is to listen to what the good people here are saying, and if something perks you interest ... try it ... you won't know if you will like it if you don't
No, an Ego-C Twist is a battery that has a thin section at the bottom that twists to increase the voltage. That's why it's called a VV or variable voltage battery. Twist are available for anywhere from twenty to thirty dollars and come in 650 and 1000mah. You have to add an atomizer (to heat the juice) and a cartridge (to hold the juice) to it, but I use a combination atomizer/cartridge called a cartomizer. The clear ones where you can see your juice level are often called clearomizers. That's what I use. I use one called a Stardust. It screws onto the Twist battery. Then all you have to do is unscrew the tip (the part you put your mouth on) from the top and drip juice down the side until it is filled to the line. I like this because some of the cartomizers need syringes to fill them and I don't want to carry a syringe around with me.
The Stardust has wicks that hang down to draw the juice up into the tube which feeds the built-in atomizer. Stardusts come with either long or short wicks. I've had better luck with short wicks, but's that's personal preference. After the Stardust is full, you screw the drip tip back on and it seals against the tube so there isn't any leakage. Others may disagree, but I throw full Stardusts in my purse or in a drawer and I've never had one leak. I also like them because I fill a couple of them up and they are easy to switch out to change flavors---just unscrew one and screw on the new one with the different flavor. Change your mind? Easily switch back.
Once the Stardust is on, I hold it horizontal and roll it a few times to make sure the wicks get saturated. Then I take a puff or two without inhaling into my lungs (in mouth and right back out) to prime it. Everyone is different, but I always start with my Twist turned all the way down and then increase bit by bit until I find the spot that tastes best to me. You can really taste and feel a difference as you adjust the voltage. Some people have their Twists marked and use the same numbered setting every time, but I just turn it a little bit more until I'm happy.
So if you go this way, all you need are a couple of Twist batteries, some clearomizers, and a battery charger. The kits come with plastic cartridges and atomizers, but most people don't use those for long. Atomizers are nice to have to drip flavors directly on when you are trying new ones so you don't fill a whole clearomizer with a new juice and then find out you hate it, so I have a couple of those, but that's the only time I use those with a plain drip tip. And I have tons of plastic cartridges that I never use, but hang onto in case I ever mess up and run out of clearomizers before my next order arrives. I would have to be really desperate to use them.
Different strokes for different folks and all that, but I've tried Fluxomizers, cartridges, Boges, dripping, and tanks and for me, the easiest and best tasting method is Stardusts. I still use tanks with my Provari Mini (The Vivi Nova II or a Phiniac) but when I don't feel like fussing and just want a great, simple vape, I use the Twist and a Stardust.
If you are going to buy Twists, don't forget to get the right charger for them.
Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions.
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Valid. I kinda like it. And I did mention a clearo of some kind despite the fact that my own experience has been much less than stellar so far (got my first on monday……and it's…well……i'll wait a bit). But…
The reason I said 2 twists was because I don't think I've ever run mine as low as what normal eGo batteries put out. I don't think I've run it below 4V with stuff that goes down to 1.7Ω.
And based purely on math, I have no desire to try dual coil cartos or recommend them to a beginner……I don't think it's possible they'd give a satisfying experience unless you're up around 14W, and the twist can't drive them that hard. Basically, I think DCCs make VV irrelevant unless you're on a Provari or Vmax……or maybe the VV gripper. A twist will run it about the same as any old ego battery, and I'd rather have VV than Dual Coils for reasons that I'm not sure come down to preference.
Basically, I just don't think they're worth screwing with for a noob until they can tell me why I feel like it takes 14W to drive one and why I feel like that only puts it on par with a low res single coil on an ego (not a twist).
It's not a "you have to be smart or you're not good enough for them" kind of thing……I just think they'd be cool with realistic expectations and have no idea why more people don't hate them because they're using them wrong.
Brilliant!
1st post. Been looking into starting to Vape. Great information here. I've been smoking marlboro lights for about 26 years and ready to quit. I am looking at purchasing the EGO TWIST kit that was mentioned earlier in this thread. It comes with:
2 Ego C Twist Batteries
2 Long Wick Vision Ego Cartomizers
1 Ego Zipper Case
1 USB fast charger (420mA)
1 Wall Adapter (US or EU)
Is it safe to assume that this is all I need to get started except for juice? Also I have to pick and option for the cartomizers. Either SR (standard resistance) or LR (I think it means Lower resistance?). Not sure which one I need. Any thoughts?
Thanks
2 Ego C Twist Batteries
2 Long Wick Vision Ego Cartomizers
1 Ego Zipper Case
1 USB fast charger (420mA)
1 Wall Adapter (US or EU)
Is it safe to assume that this is all I need to get started except for juice? Also I have to pick and option for the cartomizers. Either SR (standard resistance) or LR (I think it means Lower resistance?). Not sure which one I need. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Yes, that's all you need (with juice).
I'd also suggest an atomizer or two and cartomizers that are based on polyfill in addition to those wick-based clearomizers, but you can pick them up later if you want to try them out. The little experience I have with wick-based things (the vision vivi nova) is that it's really inconsistent. When it works, it's awesome. When it doesn't work great………it really seems to blow. Maybe those are different, but I haven't had that experience with cartos. YMMV.
If they give a resistance value for the clearomizers, you want to get as close to 2.2 Ohms (Ω) as you can for the Twist…that will give you the widest range of power on the twist without being limited by it's range of adjustment or current limit……if that went over your head, just aim for 2.2. 2.0-2.4 is fine. 1.7 is a bit lower than you want (from experience) but works. 2.8 is a bit high (from math), but I'm sure it'd work. They just won't give you quite the same range of power……but they will still fire.
So, you almost certainly want LR……which is likely to be around 2.0 Ω.
I'd also suggest an atomizer or two and cartomizers that are based on polyfill in addition to those wick-based clearomizers, but you can pick them up later if you want to try them out. The little experience I have with wick-based things (the vision vivi nova) is that it's really inconsistent. When it works, it's awesome. When it doesn't work great………it really seems to blow. Maybe those are different, but I haven't had that experience with cartos. YMMV.
If they give a resistance value for the clearomizers, you want to get as close to 2.2 Ohms (Ω) as you can for the Twist…that will give you the widest range of power on the twist without being limited by it's range of adjustment or current limit……if that went over your head, just aim for 2.2. 2.0-2.4 is fine. 1.7 is a bit lower than you want (from experience) but works. 2.8 is a bit high (from math), but I'm sure it'd work. They just won't give you quite the same range of power……but they will still fire.
So, you almost certainly want LR……which is likely to be around 2.0 Ω.
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The LR was 2.1 to 2.4. I went ahead and ordered the kit. $68 with shipping and 10% coupon. I will get the juice from a local here in Las Vegas to start out. Thanks for the advice. Hope it works for me. I'm excited about putting down the cigarettes for good.
Well I'm bout to narrow the field for you:
THE EGO TWIST IS A GAME CHANGER - YouTube
You can get them at: AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | AltSmoke.com | eGo-C Twist Battery
On sale right now. Get 2 of them at the 1000mah battery size and you won't be disappointed. This is the hottest newest thing taking the market by storm. Before this to get a good variable voltage vape you had to spend $150-200. Oh you'll also need a plug/USB charger for an ego battery and those are around 5 bucks. Last time I ordered from Altsmoke my shipping was less than 3 dollars.
As far as tanks go there are several options but a lot of people enjoy the Vision Vivi Nova (which is a bit pricey at 15 bucks a piece but they are rebuildable - maybe not the best move for a novice) which has replaceable atomizer heads. They also have rebuildable (with replaceable heads) Stardusts now (Ego Vision Clearomizer is it's official name). The Apollo tank is also expensive but rebuildable (more for a veteran though). Outside of tanks you have Boge Cartomizers which you can clean and get them to last this side of forever, or you have Smoktech 1.7ohm cartomizers (the Resurrector it's called sometimes) but that particular carto may not be great for higher voltages that the Twist can produce (between 3.2v and 4.8v).
Here is a chart of cartos vs ohm (resistance) and what is safe to vape at what voltage. You're probably going to be hanging in the 3.6v to 4.8v range. I can't see anyone going for 3.2v on the twist. I don't even know why it's there. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ur-battery-temperature-preferences-excel.html
Now go forth into the world and tear it up.
THE EGO TWIST IS A GAME CHANGER - YouTube
You can get them at: AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | AltSmoke.com | eGo-C Twist Battery
On sale right now. Get 2 of them at the 1000mah battery size and you won't be disappointed. This is the hottest newest thing taking the market by storm. Before this to get a good variable voltage vape you had to spend $150-200. Oh you'll also need a plug/USB charger for an ego battery and those are around 5 bucks. Last time I ordered from Altsmoke my shipping was less than 3 dollars.
As far as tanks go there are several options but a lot of people enjoy the Vision Vivi Nova (which is a bit pricey at 15 bucks a piece but they are rebuildable - maybe not the best move for a novice) which has replaceable atomizer heads. They also have rebuildable (with replaceable heads) Stardusts now (Ego Vision Clearomizer is it's official name). The Apollo tank is also expensive but rebuildable (more for a veteran though). Outside of tanks you have Boge Cartomizers which you can clean and get them to last this side of forever, or you have Smoktech 1.7ohm cartomizers (the Resurrector it's called sometimes) but that particular carto may not be great for higher voltages that the Twist can produce (between 3.2v and 4.8v).
Here is a chart of cartos vs ohm (resistance) and what is safe to vape at what voltage. You're probably going to be hanging in the 3.6v to 4.8v range. I can't see anyone going for 3.2v on the twist. I don't even know why it's there. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ur-battery-temperature-preferences-excel.html
Now go forth into the world and tear it up.
Nice.
Is the local Pink Spot? I know they're from Vegas. They're supposed to make really good juice……I need to get around to trying some.
Is the local Pink Spot? I know they're from Vegas. They're supposed to make really good juice……I need to get around to trying some.
The local I'm taking about is Sin City Vaper. I haven't been there yet but a friend has. They don't list the twist on their website that's why I ordered from a different place. That and I think I got a pretty good price. As far as the e-liquid I've read some pretty good things about theirs. I haven't heard of Pink Spot.
Just looked up pink spot. They are in Vegas but a little far from me. I will have to check them out when I'm in the neighborhood.
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