But if u look up e-cigs on google they're puttin' e-cigs/devices in the nasty cig. category about being harmful/cancer/lung diseases etc. ...I Never looked/or been courious about what is being said about them until i joined this forum group/ecf ... It's totally false in my opinion cause me havin' quit almost 2yrs. nasty cigs. ...I feel lots better have more energy sleep a little better I walk or try to a mile or so a day depending on if I have a disease flare-up then I'm no use to me or anyone I'm just miserable, but I'm doing better also w/my disease GP ...I think it's nasty cig makers they're jealous cause e-cig makers/vape shop/suppliers etc. are making money that they should of gotten from ppl quitting the nasty cigs. ...Am I wrong peeps ??
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I think the best retort is "follow the money". Re: research, many with money to lose have tried to find something wrong with it.
I rarely have anyone say anything because I live in Virginia. Smoking was very popular here until vaping.
Should have said "you know better than that" then.
Re: the nurse, it's terribly irresponsible for medical (and media) to be so uninformed.
I rarely have anyone say anything because I live in Virginia. Smoking was very popular here until vaping.
Should have said "you know better than that" then.
Re: the nurse, it's terribly irresponsible for medical (and media) to be so uninformed.
I am pretty sure I do at least ONE irresponsible thing daily if not more. To be fair it's to myself.
But you gotta take a look at the education system and also wonder to yourself, "JUST how much time in RADIOLOGY TECH school is going to be spent on the pros and cons of vaping."
I mean... Really. I get people are up in arms but NO one is ACCURATE and knowledgeable about everything.
Not everyone can complete a philosophy degree for like A LOT of money a year and understand the mechanisms of propaganda and how to like, combat it.
Complaining how everyone is DUMB is not the way. Understanding that people are SHAPED by their environments is far more useful.
I guess that's social work, too. Most of my job is not in TEACHING someone stuff that works. It is finding the EXACT puncture wound and jab in a ..... in someone's armor to MAKE the information go in.
Let me tell you I have a family that is happening with and it is Pure Bliss. I get 100 things accomplished in the time it takes other families two.
And I don't blame the family EITHER it is my job to find the ..... in the armor. Sometimes I fail for a long time.
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But you gotta take a look at the education system and also wonder to yourself, "JUST how much time in RADIOLOGY TECH school is going to be spent on the pros and cons of vaping."
I mean... Really. I get people are up in arms but NO one is ACCURATE and knowledgeable about everything.
Not everyone can complete a philosophy degree for like A LOT of money a year and understand the mechanisms of propaganda and how to like, combat it.
Complaining how everyone is DUMB is not the way. Understanding that people are SHAPED by their environments is far more useful.
I guess that's social work, too. Most of my job is not in TEACHING someone stuff that works. It is finding the EXACT puncture wound and jab in a ..... in someone's armor to MAKE the information go in.
Let me tell you I have a family that is happening with and it is Pure Bliss. I get 100 things accomplished in the time it takes other families two.
And I don't blame the family EITHER it is my job to find the ..... in the armor. Sometimes I fail for a long time.
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When I run into the misinformed and they make comments like that, I like to tell them chances are higher that they'll get his by a bus and die today, than me dying from vaping for another 10 years. I also ask them why the UK suggests people vape over smoking. They usually .... right quick.
As many are aware the official position on vaping in UK is very positive, but out and about it can be a different matter, due to that same disinformation campaign.
When someone makes a stupid brainwashed comment to me, being a very flippant kind of feller, I say something like "it's an anti-contrail poison device" or "it's anti-mosquito" I'm too tired of trying to educate numptees and it does makes them think for a nano-second.
Non-numptees (... is that a thing?) will get a fact or two if I can be bothered.
When someone makes a stupid brainwashed comment to me, being a very flippant kind of feller, I say something like "it's an anti-contrail poison device" or "it's anti-mosquito" I'm too tired of trying to educate numptees and it does makes them think for a nano-second.
Non-numptees (... is that a thing?) will get a fact or two if I can be bothered.
Vaping should be recognized as harm reduction for prior smokers. It is by those who realize the difference, but there's still a cross-section of America who thinks, "If it looks like smoke, then it's smoke". They don't see the difference.
IMO, no one who has never smoked should take up vaping. Teenagers, especially those under 18 who vape are creating a negative attitude for vaping. The exception would be teens who smoked and starting vaping to quit.
All that said, I hardly ever see anyone vaping when I'm out and about and I live in a metro area with around 230,000 residents and several vape shops. I'm usually the only one exhaling vapor and few people seem to notice my 10W vape.
IMO, no one who has never smoked should take up vaping. Teenagers, especially those under 18 who vape are creating a negative attitude for vaping. The exception would be teens who smoked and starting vaping to quit.
All that said, I hardly ever see anyone vaping when I'm out and about and I live in a metro area with around 230,000 residents and several vape shops. I'm usually the only one exhaling vapor and few people seem to notice my 10W vape.
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Ohhh yes the smell of nasty cigs are bothering me more & more as the days, weeks ,months ect. go by,
I was in line at Wal-Mart today & this lady in front of me smelled like an ashtray w/1,000 butts in it plus afew nasty cigs burning in it ...
I wanted to talk to her about vaping bout I had to leave & go to another register I didn't want stand behind her any longer !
Well in the area I live its a kinda small town but there're a medium amount of vapers here & we do have alot of vape shops for a small town, but they're not to educated in the vaping area to a lot of degree & i have never seen any the employees vape (I thought that was unusual too) I've been in 4 shops we have, most of ppl that go in the vape shops here go in for rolling papers & weed devices & cigars to make-a-fat-joint they call it here, theres 2 Air Force Bases here & there's sometime a cop parked at almost every other stop-go light & most of us don't or try to hide it cause if one those cops see u puffing on anything but a nasty cig. they will pull u over in a heartbeat, then u have to show proof of what u are smoking & if u carry a liquid they test it, its just not worth my time to get pulled over, & actually that's awful to happen but it does here lately & not jus' in my area, its in parts of TN & a few other states I've heard !
It's often the other way around for me. As a Vaper I sometimes approach Smokers (NOT "directly" - just casually) and TRY to quickly explain the benefits of vaping, that it really helps over smoking in any & all aspects, or even point out nearby vape stores. Around 90% of them are often completely either oblivious, or say it's a gimmick, waste of time, etc. The most pitiful excuse I ever got was "I don't have a computer"(!?!).
In 2013 when I was first introduced to vaping I had never previously even seen an eCig, but when I did, I had an Eureka Moment and immediately knew "damn this is the solution", and it hit me like a ton of bricks. Awareness about vaping was still remarkably minute but at least now in 2019 there’s much more awareness & popularity around eCigs & Vaping.
I wish there was a more aggressive way for the eCig & Vaping community & industry to lobby governments similar to the NRA, insurance & oil companies, etc. I hope this isn't politically incorrect but IMO research devoted to vaping should follow along the same lines as cures for other diseases. Example: how many millions $$$$ were spent on funding studies on smoking, and what did they find? Here's One Answer: ties to cancer!! eCigs & Vaping on the other hand have never experienced well-funded, long-term, scientifically methodological studies, and yet govt's legalize weed!? Ya ya ya, we can talk legalities wrt advertising, govt's, and what not, but still... this ticks me off. And the fact that it's sometimes questionable getting nicQuid over borders also sucks.
LIVES would literally be SAVED if introduced to eCigs & Vaping - mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, cousins, aunts, uncles, friends, etc, etc. Vape THAT stupid governments!! OK that's it for my 2 cents... Cheers!!
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Well on my Facebook
Well on my facepage I promote vaping & put kool devices on it & i have a few vape shops I friended & their feed comes on my Facebook page & I have shown a few my devices on their as well !
Lysol related story, and true too. My dad was a doctor in a small town in eastern Kentucky, there was a patient in the waiting room one time who didnt feel the need to bathe regularly and had a very offensive odor about him. My dad's nurse went to the waiting room to call in the next patient and sprayed a copious amount of lysol around the room. The offending party looked up at her and said he'd rather have the disease than to smell that s..t. True story.
We need to change phrases……
Like the stick that in your pipe one?
"Stick that in your tank and vape it."
Better, huh?
"Up in vape" instead of smoke
"boy that #4 car really vaped that #2 car on the track today"……
Like the stick that in your pipe one?
"Stick that in your tank and vape it."
Better, huh?
"Up in vape" instead of smoke
"boy that #4 car really vaped that #2 car on the track today"……
Could always use the line I used when I was a smoker. "Maybe I wanna die. Its a free country". I used to use this one too. " Doctor assisted suicide is illegal. Got to try something" That one always got some unique stares.
That's sad.
I went to a ear, nose, throat doctor. He asked me if I smoke. I said no, stopped a Year ago, now I vape. He said, that doesn't make it better. I'm in a country in Europe where vaping is unregulated. But more and more bad press reports are coming. I even won't mention again that I vape.
I went to a ear, nose, throat doctor. He asked me if I smoke. I said no, stopped a Year ago, now I vape. He said, that doesn't make it better. I'm in a country in Europe where vaping is unregulated. But more and more bad press reports are coming. I even won't mention again that I vape.
You know, my experience has been fair, except when the manager of my former place of employment launched a zero tolerance policy toward vaping, shrieking "that stuff is more carcinogenic than cigarettes!". I work at home now. Otherwise, when I vape in public, which is rare and with stealth, people show mild curiosity and ask if it helped me stop smoking. I'm happy to give my success story. I vape unflavored in public, to avoid offending with aromas, and often a worker or another customer will want to share notes about vaping. When I go in for car servicing, the service manager at the dealership is vaping at her desk. She calls her pen a "peace pipe".
When I do feel compelled to answer questions about the safety of vaping, I wish I weren't up against the nonstop media bombardment with "children are dying!!!" kinds of stories.
I feel the important buoy to hold on to in the storm is the fact that PG is used in inhalers for asthma and other lung diseases, and VG has internal medical applications such as ear drops and suppositories. Nobody is crying cancer from that. If I'm getting further into it with someone who is really interested, I'll offer to provide web links to studies about the promise of pharmaceutical grade nicotine in cognitive diseases of old age, and nicotine's application in irritable bowel disease.
I use unflavored in public because I cannot really reassure anybody that eliquid flavorings are safe, though I know from my own experience that my chronic bronchitis went away when I traded cigarettes for vaping, and I have never been sick again, not even with a cold, after nearly seven years vaping.
When I do feel compelled to answer questions about the safety of vaping, I wish I weren't up against the nonstop media bombardment with "children are dying!!!" kinds of stories.
I feel the important buoy to hold on to in the storm is the fact that PG is used in inhalers for asthma and other lung diseases, and VG has internal medical applications such as ear drops and suppositories. Nobody is crying cancer from that. If I'm getting further into it with someone who is really interested, I'll offer to provide web links to studies about the promise of pharmaceutical grade nicotine in cognitive diseases of old age, and nicotine's application in irritable bowel disease.
I use unflavored in public because I cannot really reassure anybody that eliquid flavorings are safe, though I know from my own experience that my chronic bronchitis went away when I traded cigarettes for vaping, and I have never been sick again, not even with a cold, after nearly seven years vaping.
Just got a phone call from my 85 year old father. He asked if I was still doing that vape thing. I told him yes and have been for over 4 years. He said I just saw on TV that it's 100 times worse for you than smoking and people are dropping dead all over the place from it. I tried to explain that it is just media hype but he insisted that they said a new independent was just released to show how bad it was.
How do you beat all this bad press? I was a 3 pack a day smoker and could feel it killing me every day. Now I can't stand the smell of cigs and feel, taste and smell better than I have for years. I just hate that something that may have very well saved my life can be ruined by stupidity.
How do you beat all this bad press? I was a 3 pack a day smoker and could feel it killing me every day. Now I can't stand the smell of cigs and feel, taste and smell better than I have for years. I just hate that something that may have very well saved my life can be ruined by stupidity.
I wish I had a dollar for each person who told me that vaping was worse for your health than smoking. The anti-smoking campaign launched against tobacco has mistakenly, and unjustly, incorporated e-cigs into their anti-tobacco literature. Knowledgable vapers don't claim that vaping is 100% safe ... just that it's demonstrably safer than smoking tobacco. Their claim that flavored e-juice is targeted to hook kids on vaping also reflects a deep ignorance of the average e-cig user. When I first switched from smoking to vaping I vaped tobacco flavors but very soon switched to fruit and candy flavors. The vast majority of my adult vaping friends also enjoy fruit and candy e-juice. The hysteria over the lung problems recently experienced by a number of youthful e-cig users has further demonized vaping. With the enhanced age verification now required, many underage users have turned to "homebrew" e-juice blended by other underage DIY'ers using liquids/flavorings of questionable purity.
Let's test samples of the e-juice associated with those lung problems to determine if there are any contaminates in the e-juice that could be involved in damaging healthy lungs. There are millions of adult e-cig users at risk as well.
Let's test samples of the e-juice associated with those lung problems to determine if there are any contaminates in the e-juice that could be involved in damaging healthy lungs. There are millions of adult e-cig users at risk as well.
I'm uneducated, I quit school at year 9 
though I went to TAFE after which is like uni. I too have had people say that sorta thing. I was doing a Certificate III in civil construction and there were these 2 guys from Somalia who were smoking normal cigs. They said you need to stop that, they're bad for your heart lol. I found it funny because that comment came from someone who was smoking.
though I went to TAFE after which is like uni. I too have had people say that sorta thing. I was doing a Certificate III in civil construction and there were these 2 guys from Somalia who were smoking normal cigs. They said you need to stop that, they're bad for your heart lol. I found it funny because that comment came from someone who was smoking.- Status
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