A recent update tells a new story of buying juice "off the street" containing OD level of drugs as the real cause of the injuries but was probably on page 27 of the Milwaukee Times.
But if u look up e-cigs on google they're puttin' e-cigs/devices in the nasty cig. category about being harmful/cancer/lung diseases etc. ...I Never looked/or been courious about what is being said about them until i joined this forum group/ecf ... It's totally false in my opinion cause me havin' quit almost 2yrs. nasty cigs. ...I feel lots better have more energy sleep a little better I walk or try to a mile or so a day depending on if I have a disease flare-up then I'm no use to me or anyone I'm just miserable, but I'm doing better also w/my disease GP ...I think it's nasty cig makers they're jealous cause e-cig makers/vape shop/suppliers etc. are making money that they should of gotten from ppl quitting the nasty cigs. ...Am I wrong peeps ??
Lots of people fall into the category where, "If it looks like a duck ...". Vaping does look exactly like smoking until they realize it doesn't smell like a cigarette. Still, they repeat what they have heard about vaping.
The most effective statement about something new is, "Well, it's too new and we haven't had enough time to do the testing". That's still a lame statement. There's been fairly extensive testing right down to the spectrographic level and the chief danger is said to be Acrolein and Formaldehyde production if you hit temperatures in the 550F plus range.
Most of us would gag at those temps, even with juice saturating the wick.
You know, my experience has been fair, except when the manager of my former place of employment launched a zero tolerance policy toward vaping, shrieking "that stuff is more carcinogenic than cigarettes!". I work at home now. Otherwise, when I vape in public, which is rare and with stealth, people show mild curiosity and ask if it helped me stop smoking. I'm happy to give my success story. I vape unflavored in public, to avoid offending with aromas, and often a worker or another customer will want to share notes about vaping. When I go in for car servicing, the service manager at the dealership is vaping at her desk. She calls her pen a "peace pipe".
When I do feel compelled to answer questions about the safety of vaping, I wish I weren't up against the nonstop media bombardment with "children are dying!!!" kinds of stories.
I feel the important buoy to hold on to in the storm is the fact that PG is used in inhalers for asthma and other lung diseases, and VG has internal medical applications such as ear drops and suppositories. Nobody is crying cancer from that. If I'm getting further into it with someone who is really interested, I'll offer to provide web links to studies about the promise of pharmaceutical grade nicotine in cognitive diseases of old age, and nicotine's application in irritable bowel disease.
I use unflavored in public because I cannot really reassure anybody that eliquid flavorings are safe, though I know from my own experience that my chronic bronchitis went away when I traded cigarettes for vaping, and I have never been sick again, not even with a cold, after nearly seven years vaping.
To be truthful, 2 people have died from vaping in the last year when their mech mod exploded sending shrapnel into their skull and neck.I tell them 480,000 people died last year from smoking related illness.
0 people died from vaping...
At 550F? I'm sorry, but I don't see the danger. Kanthal and Nichrome are used in toasters and electric heaters where they are glowing red hot. Besides, if your coil actually makes it to 550F, the vape will taste burnt. The onset of burnt taste happens just above 500F.It's also important to note that the danger at that temperature is for kanthal and maybe nickel or nichrome coils.
I agree, this is ridiculous -- at least when compared to smoking.
To be truthful, 2 people have died from vaping in the last year when their mech mod exploded sending shrapnel into their skull and neck.
But don't tell people that...
I agree, this is ridiculous -- at least when compared to smoking.
I won't mention it.
After we bought our home we had to immediately put a new central air system in because the old one was shot. We scheduled our yearly preventive service call a year later. While the technician was cleaning the system he said "it's odd because I don't smell cigarette odor in your home". I told him it's not that odd, because I don't smoke. He said the blower was covered in a sticky film just like he sees in smoker's homes.
I'm okay with it though.
Is it really? I have only seen one site that uses it from the many I buy from. I think they all should though.With the enhanced age verification now required,
It's also important to note that the danger at that temperature is for kanthal and maybe nickel or nichrome coils. The stainless steel coils are much safer.
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I’ll politely ask if they want the information I’m aware of when it comes to vaping, that’s often met with me being waved off! That’s fine, I get it. I kinda get a little in the weeds with my explanations and people just glaze over, but, I know what I’m doing, I like to think I know the science behind it. It’s a strange place to be in, you either want to understand it or you don’t, pretty simple
What if a big majority is vaping, and you cut smoking down to around 5 cigarettes per day ~ is that still destined to cause serious health issues?... I tell them that I didn't really want to quit smoking, but smoking was destined to cause serious health issues. ...
Is that a real site or did you whomp it up for fun? If it's a joke, bravo for highlighting pissy concerns in the first world. If it's someone's real site, I want to roll on the floor groaning.
Was just casually browsing online, miraculously came across it, and LOL @ ridiculous & disservice, but it looks like he put some serious effort into it.Is that a real site or did you whomp it up for fun? If it's a joke, bravo for highlighting pissy concerns in the first world. If it's someone's real site, I want to roll on the floor groaning. ...
You know, I don't get that. I'm wondering if it's a flavoring causing that. Vaporized PG and VG don't polymerize. My landlady's AC service guy loves to give ridiculous opinions, like telling me to change my 90 day filters every two weeks (I already change them every 60 days). He has never mentioned anything like that. I'm wondering if the same flavors that gunk your coils will gunk up your a/c system, or if you can use certain coils that burn things, or if it's something you're cooking in the kitchen, or something else. I'm not saying that what you experienced isn't true. I'm just wondering what it really specifically is.I won't mention it.
After we bought our home we had to immediately put a new central air system in because the old one was shot. We scheduled our yearly preventive service call a year later. While the technician was cleaning the system he said "it's odd because I don't smell cigarette odor in your home". I told him it's not that odd, because I don't smoke. He said the blower was covered in a sticky film just like he sees in smoker's homes.
I'm okay with it though.