Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

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    I have given myself the double whammy in regards to shipping anxiety. I used two different companies that I have never used before for two different items that I have been eyeballing. I grabbed the joyetech Elitar Pipe from Health Cabin for $20 and I grabbed the Aspire Quad Flex Survival Kit from Gearbest for $20. I don't need either one in a hurry. I don't really need either item at all. Just a couple of toys to play with. But...I am back to work this Monday after a nice long vacation. So I think I am going to have to get used to the idea that I'll be coming home to some toys after work at some point in the future. That's not such a terrible thing though.
    Never used HC but from what I gather they are pretty quick. I have ordered from Gearbest a couple times, think it was about 2 weeks. Both are reliable, but no idea what customer service is like if you ever need it.
     

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    There is another option to full DIY and that is to get concentrates of premixed eliquid recipes. A lot of companies now sell it so you can taste their eliquid and if you like just buy the concentrate and add nic, pg, vg. Places in the UK like T-juice, decadent vapours and in the US pink spot, mt baker etc.

    One of my eliquids is decadent vapours menthol eucalyptus and I buy the concentrate and add the rest of my ingredients. Even with shipping calculated it cost 11c per mil.

    I refer to those as full recipe concentrates and thats how I make a lot of my juice. In the U.K. Eco-vape.uk sell them too. Their Black Friday sales cut the prices in half so I stock up for the year.

    I should do more diy. It's a little overwhelming for me. I need to sit down and find some recipes I want to try and then buy flavoring for that. I know it's very easy but to get started is expensive ish. And overwhelming g just trying to find good recipes


    About aw

    As for the aw battery deal. If you're going to link to mxjo results (which have very different end product than my results) you should also link to aw tests that show the batteries are identical to authentic first party batteries. For example the aw 3000 mah rewrao of the hg2 performs almost identically. Iirc the oem wrap outperformed the AW slightly. I'd have to reread mooch's test.

    Also as I understand it the inspection is done as part of s contract deal and it's something g the. Oem cell Manufacturers do already when they create a b c stock. So inspected by aw employees would actually mean inspected at the factory as part of the contract by employees who are at that hour contracted to him not that he's getting in a thousand batteries and testing each and every cell then selling off other ones. Again as I understand it.

    I'm not going to get us bogged down in a big debate about this. People are going to have different opinions. To me if I can avoid buying rewrapped cells and buy the actual cell that's branded by the manufacturer for half the cost or less I will. I do own aw batteries. I did a lot of research on them beyond their pr statement. In the end there is nothing in performance to show their additional price is worth it to me. I can buy 2-3 cells from the oem for the price of aw. The. Batteries going out as oem cells are all a stock. Just like aw.

    Their wraps are cool looking and thick. I like the fact they're more tear resistant than many oem wraps. That's about the only positive I have to say. Similarly the only negative I have to say is pricing. I'm not debating that aw choose good cells to rewrap. They do for sure. But at the end of the day you can spend $12 or whatever on a 3000 mah aw or get 2 hg2 for $10 and you'll have the same experience with either one.

    Even provape stopped recommending aw in the end. I can't say why but There were internal resistance issues according to them that made the provape battery meter perform wrong. According to an email exchange.

    Here's the aw 3000 mah test which shows it's an hg2 and there's no practical reason to buy over a hg2

    AW 20A 3000mAh Flat-Top 18650 Bench Test Results...a good high-capacity 20A battery, could be an HG2

    Regarding my personal aw experience

    I'm a fan of the aw 14500 batteries. I just wish they didn't expire so fast. Inside a year one of three I bought died just like the 18350 two more seem to be performing poorly now. Out of 7 aw batteries I own two died within a year. The only other battery I've had die fast was a vtc5 which died within a month and was 1/4. I have not seen a hg2 die yet. Or a 25q. I own around 6 hg2 and have had 14 25q many of which have since been given to friends. I have a four year old mxjo 350 which provides better life and performance than the newer aw at his point in the p3. But that could be a provape thing with their internal resistance.

    I'm not against aw. Again if you buy aw you're getting a quality cell. I just think there's very limited reason to buy aw or any other rewrap in popular sizes like 18650. I believe this is the same conclusion mooch has reached on multiple
    Occasions.


    Here is the link to mooch's tests and you can see what his findings are with aw. Nothing is particularly impressive or stands out from what I see.

    List of Battery Tests | E-Cigarette Forum
     

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    It ends with "CN" so I assume that's China. I don't want to post the number because (I assume) anyone who could make that number work would gain access to my name and home address. I'm paranoid about privacy on the internet.

    Did you try to track it with 17track.net? It will track all the shippers. You just input the tracking number and the status will pop up
     

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    Here is a Toaster, just use whatever tootle puff RDA you like with it.:p
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    I must have missed the original post about that. Is that an assemble yourself box or does it come premade? What's the cost and where does one get them ?

    THe size is great. Looks similar to the boxer bf I just bought.
     

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    Did you try to track it with 17track.net? It will track all the shippers. You just input the tracking number and the status will pop up

    Yup, got that suggestion earlier in the thread and it worked for me, thanks.
     

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    Never used HC but from what I gather they are pretty quick. I have ordered from Gearbest a couple times, think it was about 2 weeks. Both are reliable, but no idea what customer service is like if you ever need it.

    I had to deal with CS at HC for a VV4 that was DOA. I received a response within an hour and was done in 2 hours. A far cry better that FT which I won't deal with soon after all the crap customer service I have received from them.
     

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    I must have missed the original post about that. Is that an assemble yourself box or does it come premade? What's the cost and where does one get them ?

    THe size is great. Looks similar to the boxer bf I just bought.
    Well, not my picture so I can't answer all your questions, but as I understand it they sell through Facebook. And it's a 3D printed mod, so I would think it's very similar to the boxer.
     

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    Well, not my picture so I can't answer all your questions, but as I understand it they sell through Facebook. And it's a 3D printed mod, so I would think it's very similar to the boxer.

    Sorry I must have mis quoted. I'll try to google and see what I find.
     

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    There is another option to full DIY and that is to get concentrates of premixed eliquid recipes. A lot of companies now sell it so you can taste their eliquid and if you like just buy the concentrate and add nic, pg, vg. Places in the UK like T-juice, decadent vapours and in the US pink spot, mt baker etc.

    One of my eliquids is decadent vapours menthol eucalyptus and I buy the concentrate and add the rest of my ingredients. Even with shipping calculated it cost 11c per mil.
    @Krisma, is this what you are referencing above:
    One Shot Concentrates - Flavor Concentrates - <p class="shopbydepartment"><span style="font-size: 14px;">Shop by</span><span style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold;">Department</span></p>

    And what is this (is this a flavor or a concentrate of a mix?), any idea?
    SC-Dunhill Super Concentrated Flavor

    I also noticed that EE also has a recipe kit option, which has everything you need to make a recipe yourself:
    Recipe Kits
     
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    Sorry I must have mis quoted. I'll try to google and see what I find.
    Sorry for the confusion, I did post the picture, it just isn't my mod, it's a picture I stole from the 'net, just to make a bad joke about toasters and vaping.
     

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    I had to deal with CS at HC for a VV4 that was DOA. I received a response within an hour and was done in 2 hours. A far cry better that FT which I won't deal with soon after all the crap customer service I have received from them.
    Level up for most acronyms in a single post :)
     

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    Sorry for the confusion, I did post the picture, it just isn't my mod, it's a picture I stole from the 'net, just to make a bad joke about toasters and vaping.

    Ah that makes sense. I tried searching 3D toaster. I'd but the results had nothing to do with vaping ;)
     

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    I had to deal with CS at HC for a VV4 that was DOA. I received a response within an hour and was done in 2 hours. A far cry better that FT which I won't deal with soon after all the crap customer service I have received from them.

    Thanks. That's promising. I hope I don't have to go that route.
     

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    @MikeE3 I recently saw a post of yours on KFM3, always wondered if that tat was real, I'm not into tats but can appreciate true artistry. Very nice.

    Yes, it's real. The fly is called The Green Highlander, a classic full dress salmon flys from days gone by. I wanted it about 1/2 that size, by the tattoo artist said he couldn't get all the detail in anything smaller than what you see.

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    Sorry for the confusion, I did post the picture, it just isn't my mod, it's a picture I stole from the 'net, just to make a bad joke about toasters and vaping.


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    I make 10ml samples. I have only finished 2 bottle I have made. The rest haven't been tried yet or dumped. I made one that smelled exactly like what I am trying to replace. Tasted horrible



    I vape 70/30 I may go higher.



    Might be me. Might be user error. Might be the idiot vaping it. Might be I get a funky taste off rayon. That tank wasn't empty, did that once but only once
    70 pg? ?
     

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    Yes, it's real. The fly is called The Green Highlander, a classic full dress salmon flys from days gone by. I wanted it about 1/2 that size, by the tattoo artist said he couldn't get all the detail in anything smaller than what you see.

    1e7750f7684b08830b6cccfefbc6fc09.jpg
    Yep, small tats can't hold detail and will fade/run within just a few years. Better to go large, especially if you have any amount of detail.
     

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    I refer to those as full recipe concentrates and thats how I make a lot of my juice. In the U.K. Eco-vape.uk sell them too. Their Black Friday sales cut the prices in half so I stock up for the year.

    I should do more diy. It's a little overwhelming for me. I need to sit down and find some recipes I want to try and then buy flavoring for that. I know it's very easy but to get started is expensive ish. And overwhelming g just trying to find good recipes


    About aw

    As for the aw battery deal. If you're going to link to mxjo results (which have very different end product than my results) you should also link to aw tests that show the batteries are identical to authentic first party batteries. For example the aw 3000 mah rewrao of the hg2 performs almost identically. Iirc the oem wrap outperformed the AW slightly. I'd have to reread mooch's test.

    Also as I understand it the inspection is done as part of s contract deal and it's something g the. Oem cell Manufacturers do already when they create a b c stock. So inspected by aw employees would actually mean inspected at the factory as part of the contract by employees who are at that hour contracted to him not that he's getting in a thousand batteries and testing each and every cell then selling off other ones. Again as I understand it.

    I'm not going to get us bogged down in a big debate about this. People are going to have different opinions. To me if I can avoid buying rewrapped cells and buy the actual cell that's branded by the manufacturer for half the cost or less I will. I do own aw batteries. I did a lot of research on them beyond their pr statement. In the end there is nothing in performance to show their additional price is worth it to me. I can buy 2-3 cells from the oem for the price of aw. The. Batteries going out as oem cells are all a stock. Just like aw.

    Their wraps are cool looking and thick. I like the fact they're more tear resistant than many oem wraps. That's about the only positive I have to say. Similarly the only negative I have to say is pricing. I'm not debating that aw choose good cells to rewrap. They do for sure. But at the end of the day you can spend $12 or whatever on a 3000 mah aw or get 2 hg2 for $10 and you'll have the same experience with either one.

    Even provape stopped recommending aw in the end. I can't say why but There were internal resistance issues according to them that made the provape battery meter perform wrong. According to an email exchange.

    Here's the aw 3000 mah test which shows it's an hg2 and there's no practical reason to buy over a hg2

    AW 20A 3000mAh Flat-Top 18650 Bench Test Results...a good high-capacity 20A battery, could be an HG2

    Regarding my personal aw experience

    I'm a fan of the aw 14500 batteries. I just wish they didn't expire so fast. Inside a year one of three I bought died just like the 18350 two more seem to be performing poorly now. Out of 7 aw batteries I own two died within a year. The only other battery I've had die fast was a vtc5 which died within a month and was 1/4. I have not seen a hg2 die yet. Or a 25q. I own around 6 hg2 and have had 14 25q many of which have since been given to friends. I have a four year old mxjo 350 which provides better life and performance than the newer aw at his point in the p3. But that could be a provape thing with their internal resistance.

    I'm not against aw. Again if you buy aw you're getting a quality cell. I just think there's very limited reason to buy aw or any other rewrap in popular sizes like 18650. I believe this is the same conclusion mooch has reached on multiple
    Occasions.


    Here is the link to mooch's tests and you can see what his findings are with aw. Nothing is particularly impressive or stands out from what I see.

    List of Battery Tests | E-Cigarette Forum
    The 18350 ones are good cells, it's the 18650's that are rewraps. In fact 18350 cells are recommended to use with provaris & for good reason too!
     

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    Don't know about Schrodinger's Mod, but several people seem to like Schrodinger's Tanks.
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    All mine have the center poly section, various colors so I can keep track of what flavor is in what KF. The cat is usually either on my lap or has run off with my mouse....:lol:
     

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