Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

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Here's a thread that seems much like your problem. It looks like a squirt of WD40 in the charging port has helped some! smok m80 plus bricked?

Interesting ! I’ve never heard of the term “bricked”. I’ll check out that thread now, thanks!
 

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I guess I'd do what S&S suggested and if it does it again in 2 or 3 three days...Then out it goes...CYAL8R !!!
Better Safe Than Sorry...Just isn't worth the risk...

I️ go back and forth with my level of paranoia regarding vaping batteries, lol! But I️ get a little nervous every time I️ press the fire button on this one and hope it doesn’t blow up in my face!
 

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I might err on the side of caution and not use it. It's going to die completely anyway at some point, I'd say you're better off replacing it, as who knows what it might do when it actually dies. That would be my attitude, anyway... :)

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I think the same thing about my wife some days.

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Interesting ! I’ve never heard of the term “bricked”. I’ll check out that thread now, thanks!
Bricked means that the electronic device no longer has any use other than as a paperweight.
 

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I️ go back and forth with my level of paranoia regarding vaping batteries, lol! But I️ get a little nervous every time I️ press the fire button on this one and hope it doesn’t blow up in my face!
In my most stern voice..........I thought you were putting it away--- not still vaping on it---.........no one here has suggested you keep using it UNTIL you have found a possible fix for it.......(ok 1 gambler did, but I think he was just kidding). Do I have to send you to your room, young lady?!!! Kids these days.....whatcha gonna do?
In all seriousness tho, please don't use it or try to charge it until you give it a few days to see if ejuice was the problem. According to the posting that 440BB posted you may want to try their fix, but please wait until you give it a few days........we don't need one of ours getting hurt......

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Interesting ! I’ve never heard of the term “bricked”. I’ll check out that thread now, thanks!
The FT "Discussion" page for that mod has several references that sound close to what you've described...See the very 1st post "Mod Going Haywire"...Or something like that...There's a vid on cleaning ???...Not For Me...With the potential hazards involved if I got'a take it apart...It's go'in by-by...Just my opinion though...:)
$45.69 Authentic Smoktech SMOK XPro M80 Plus 4400mAh VW Variable Wattage APV Box Mod - 6-80W / black at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

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In my most stern voice..........I thought you were putting it away--- not still vaping on it---.........no one here has suggested you keep using it UNTIL you have found a possible fix for it.......(ok 1 gambler did, but I think he was just kidding). Do I have to send you to your room, young lady?!!! Kids these days.....whatcha gonna do?
In all seriousness tho, please don't use it or try to charge it until you give it a few days to see if ejuice was the problem. According to the posting that 440BB posted you may want to try their fix, but please wait until you give it a few days........we don't need one of ours getting hurt......

:)

No, I️ meant BEFORE I️ asked you guys. I️ had been suspicious about it. Rest assured, my dear Sugar, I’m not using it!
Oh, and I’ll gladly go to my room! I️ sure wish I’d enjoyed that punishment as a kid (and all those naps!). [emoji38]
I’m using these guys right now
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Starting to feel more like myself lately, just have to get the energy levels back up but am getting better. Just need time.....

I must have missed something about why you haven't been posting on the ECF lately (or maybe it wasn't posted). Whatever you've been going through, that you need to get over, or get better from...I hope you have a speedy recovery. :)
 

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Although I’ve had no issues with the Smok R200 that’s pictured, I️ think I’ll avoid Smok mods in the future
I have a SMOK AL85w that I have put in a long time out. Whenever I changed batteries, it would reset my watts to 85. After having to rewick a couple of times due to that, I got fed up and put it away for 'sometime in the future'. Besides I am more than happy with my pico's, having no issues at all with them so far.

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I must have missed something about why you haven't been posting on the ECF lately (or maybe it wasn't posted). Whatever you've been going through, that you need to get over, or get better from...I hope you have a speedy recovery. :)
Thanks JC. much appreciated.
 

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It’s a Smok m80. Yes, I️ can cycle through the menu

Not to scare you unduly, but...

Smok XPro M80 Plus | PVS & Mods | VaporBeast

The Xpro M80 Plus by Smoktech features a large battery capacity of 4400 mAh, allowing for a longer and stronger vaping experience. The M80 Plus provides 80 watts of power, along with new temperature control functions and vape plan monitoring.


This Product Features:


  • Spring loaded 510 connector pin
  • Precision high-end aluminum alloy and zinc alloy construction
  • Large firing button
  • Large LED display
  • 4400 mAh Li-Po Battery capacity
  • Maximum output wattage 80 watts
  • Recessed Restart button
  • Temperature control 100 – 600 deg C
  • Puff Counter
  • Advanced USB charger port
  • Vent holes


15 things every LiPo battery user should know
February 7, 2015 Jessika Farrar 44 Comments

LiPo batteries are generally safer and more environmentally friendly than other R/C batteries like NiCd and NiMH. LiPo batteries have become the most common high performance R/C battery and are used in R/C cars, boats, planes, helis, multirotors and more. However, if charged, discharged, stored, maintained, or handled improperly, they can become extremely dangerous. This is a simple guide for safe LiPo battery ownership and use. This guide applies to all R/C LiPo batteries including all DJI Smart Batteries used in the Phantom 2 series and Inspire 1.

1. Never charge, discharge, use, or store a damaged or puffy LiPo battery. Immediately follow proper disposal protocols.

2. Avoid purchasing used LiPo batteries. You never know what the previous owner did with them and they could already be badly damaged. “LiPo Battery Like New, Used Once” is usually a scam and should be avoided.

3. Always use a proper LiPo battery balance charger/discharger when charging and discharging your LiPos. It is crucial that all cells in a LiPo battery maintain the same voltage across all cells at all times. If the voltages across the cells deviate too much from each other (5mV ~ 10Mv), the battery can become unstable and dangerous. (Unless it’s a single cell LiPo, in which case you do not need to worry about cell balance).

4. Always use a fire proof LiPo safety bag, metal ammo box, or other fire proof container when you are charging, discharging, or storing your LiPo batteries. While LiPo fires are rare, they can happen incredibly quickly and can do a lot of damage. All it takes is an internal short circuit to set the battery off. There is no way to predict when it will happen. It does tend to happen more often when batteries are fully charged, being overcharged, or while being discharged, but it can happen to any LiPo at any time. Never fill the container to capacity with your batteries, always follow manufacturer recommendations on LiPo bags for how many mAh’s it can safely contain. It’s ALWAYS worth investing in an (under $10) explosion-proof LiPo bag or ammo can.

5. Do not use your flight case/travel case for long term LiPo storage. The foam and plastic in these cases can help spread a LiPo fire. Always use a fire proof container such as a metal ammo box or fire proof safe for storage.

6. Never leave your LiPo batteries charging while unattended. If a battery starts to become puffy, smoke, or catches fire you need to be able to immediately handle the situation. Walking away for even just 5 minutes can spell disaster.

7. A LiPo fire is a chemical fire. Always keep a Class D fire extinguisher nearby your battery charging/discharging and storage area. The battery charging/discharging and storage area should be free from any materials which can catch fire such as wood tables, carpet, or gasoline containers. The ideal surface for charging and storing LiPo batteries is concrete or ceramic.

8. Never overcharge a LiPo battery. Typically a full charge is 4.2v per cell. Never “trickle” charge a LiPo battery.

9. Never discharge a LiPo battery below 3.0v per cell. Ideally you never want to go below 3.2v per cell to maintain a healthy battery. 2.9v per cell and lower is causing permanent damage.

10. Never leave your LiPo batteries sitting around on a full charge for more than 2-3 days. If by the 3rd day you realize you are not going to use your battery today, you need to discharge your battery down to 3.6v-3.8v per cell for safe storage until you are ready to use the battery again.

11. Always store your LiPo batteries at room temperature. Do not store them in a hot garage, or in a cold refrigerator. Even though a cold battery has less chemical reaction taking place which can prolong its lifespan, taking a battery out from a cold fridge can cause condensation to occur on the inside of the battery, which can be very dangerous.

12. Always remember that heat is the number one enemy of LiPo batteries. The hotter your batteries get, the shorter their lifespan will be. Never charge a battery that is still warm from usage, and never use a battery that is still warm from charging.

13. Depending on how they are used, most LiPo batteries typically do not last longer than 300 charge cycles. Leaving them around on a full or depleted charge all the time, running them completely dead, or exposing them to high temperatures will shorten this lifespan dramatically.

14. LiPo batteries do not work well in cold weather. The colder it is, the shorter your run times will be due to the slowing down of the chemical activity within the battery. If it is below 14F (-10C), LiPo usage is not recommended at all. Your battery could cause your R/C vehicle to suddenly fail without warning in these temperatures.

15. Always pack your LiPo batteries in your carry-on bag and never in your checked baggage when traveling on an airplane. It’s the law.

-Written by Jessika Farrar

Jessika Farrar is the founder of ASG Aerial and specializes in aerial photography for personal and business use. Visit www.ASGaerial.com to learn more, or to book an appointment.

Jessika Farrar is also the Network Administrator for the S.W.A.R.M. Network where thousands of pilots from around the world volunteer their skills to help connect life saving drone technology with missing people. Go to www.SARdrones.org to learn more about how you can help.

15 things every LiPo battery user should know - The Drone Girl
 

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@listopencil thank you VERY much for that info! Don't worry about scaring me, it's why I asked (and I definitely needed to know that) and I appreciate the info!
I think I'll just toss it, I'm not willing to take a chance; it's just not worth it!
 

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Not to scare you unduly, but...

Smok XPro M80 Plus | PVS & Mods | VaporBeast

The Xpro M80 Plus by Smoktech features a large battery capacity of 4400 mAh, allowing for a longer and stronger vaping experience. The M80 Plus provides 80 watts of power, along with new temperature control functions and vape plan monitoring.


This Product Features:


  • Spring loaded 510 connector pin
  • Precision high-end aluminum alloy and zinc alloy construction
  • Large firing button
  • Large LED display
  • 4400 mAh Li-Po Battery capacity
  • Maximum output wattage 80 watts
  • Recessed Restart button
  • Temperature control 100 – 600 deg C
  • Puff Counter
  • Advanced USB charger port
  • Vent holes


15 things every LiPo battery user should know
February 7, 2015 Jessika Farrar 44 Comments

LiPo batteries are generally safer and more environmentally friendly than other R/C batteries like NiCd and NiMH. LiPo batteries have become the most common high performance R/C battery and are used in R/C cars, boats, planes, helis, multirotors and more. However, if charged, discharged, stored, maintained, or handled improperly, they can become extremely dangerous. This is a simple guide for safe LiPo battery ownership and use. This guide applies to all R/C LiPo batteries including all DJI Smart Batteries used in the Phantom 2 series and Inspire 1.

1. Never charge, discharge, use, or store a damaged or puffy LiPo battery. Immediately follow proper disposal protocols.

2. Avoid purchasing used LiPo batteries. You never know what the previous owner did with them and they could already be badly damaged. “LiPo Battery Like New, Used Once” is usually a scam and should be avoided.

3. Always use a proper LiPo battery balance charger/discharger when charging and discharging your LiPos. It is crucial that all cells in a LiPo battery maintain the same voltage across all cells at all times. If the voltages across the cells deviate too much from each other (5mV ~ 10Mv), the battery can become unstable and dangerous. (Unless it’s a single cell LiPo, in which case you do not need to worry about cell balance).

4. Always use a fire proof LiPo safety bag, metal ammo box, or other fire proof container when you are charging, discharging, or storing your LiPo batteries. While LiPo fires are rare, they can happen incredibly quickly and can do a lot of damage. All it takes is an internal short circuit to set the battery off. There is no way to predict when it will happen. It does tend to happen more often when batteries are fully charged, being overcharged, or while being discharged, but it can happen to any LiPo at any time. Never fill the container to capacity with your batteries, always follow manufacturer recommendations on LiPo bags for how many mAh’s it can safely contain. It’s ALWAYS worth investing in an (under $10) explosion-proof LiPo bag or ammo can.

5. Do not use your flight case/travel case for long term LiPo storage. The foam and plastic in these cases can help spread a LiPo fire. Always use a fire proof container such as a metal ammo box or fire proof safe for storage.

6. Never leave your LiPo batteries charging while unattended. If a battery starts to become puffy, smoke, or catches fire you need to be able to immediately handle the situation. Walking away for even just 5 minutes can spell disaster.

7. A LiPo fire is a chemical fire. Always keep a Class D fire extinguisher nearby your battery charging/discharging and storage area. The battery charging/discharging and storage area should be free from any materials which can catch fire such as wood tables, carpet, or gasoline containers. The ideal surface for charging and storing LiPo batteries is concrete or ceramic.

8. Never overcharge a LiPo battery. Typically a full charge is 4.2v per cell. Never “trickle” charge a LiPo battery.

9. Never discharge a LiPo battery below 3.0v per cell. Ideally you never want to go below 3.2v per cell to maintain a healthy battery. 2.9v per cell and lower is causing permanent damage.

10. Never leave your LiPo batteries sitting around on a full charge for more than 2-3 days. If by the 3rd day you realize you are not going to use your battery today, you need to discharge your battery down to 3.6v-3.8v per cell for safe storage until you are ready to use the battery again.

11. Always store your LiPo batteries at room temperature. Do not store them in a hot garage, or in a cold refrigerator. Even though a cold battery has less chemical reaction taking place which can prolong its lifespan, taking a battery out from a cold fridge can cause condensation to occur on the inside of the battery, which can be very dangerous.

12. Always remember that heat is the number one enemy of LiPo batteries. The hotter your batteries get, the shorter their lifespan will be. Never charge a battery that is still warm from usage, and never use a battery that is still warm from charging.

13. Depending on how they are used, most LiPo batteries typically do not last longer than 300 charge cycles. Leaving them around on a full or depleted charge all the time, running them completely dead, or exposing them to high temperatures will shorten this lifespan dramatically.

14. LiPo batteries do not work well in cold weather. The colder it is, the shorter your run times will be due to the slowing down of the chemical activity within the battery. If it is below 14F (-10C), LiPo usage is not recommended at all. Your battery could cause your R/C vehicle to suddenly fail without warning in these temperatures.

15. Always pack your LiPo batteries in your carry-on bag and never in your checked baggage when traveling on an airplane. It’s the law.

-Written by Jessika Farrar

Jessika Farrar is the founder of ASG Aerial and specializes in aerial photography for personal and business use. Visit www.ASGaerial.com to learn more, or to book an appointment.

Jessika Farrar is also the Network Administrator for the S.W.A.R.M. Network where thousands of pilots from around the world volunteer their skills to help connect life saving drone technology with missing people. Go to www.SARdrones.org to learn more about how you can help.

15 things every LiPo battery user should know - The Drone Girl
This can also apply to every cell phone out there
 

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This can also apply to every cell phone out there

My cell has a flat 3200 mAh li-on battery located just under a very thin plastic back piece. If it were to vent or go into thermal runaway it would act nothing like the 'shaped charge' that an 18650 is when sitting inside of a well sealed mod. With a wired or Bluetooth headset it's not even near my face when I use it, the battery isn't even in front of my hand when I hold it, and I don't charge it unattended overnight.
 

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Well At Least I Got Something !!!...I bought one of those little Coil Master kits off eBay...Every now & then eBay does have something useful...The meter is kind of a stinky little thing but it works and it's more accurate than I was expecting...I wouldn't build on it but as a pre-test before putting on a mod it's fine for now...But the rest of the kit is all pretty darned nice gear and the case is very nice...For $28 I think it's steal...Great Starter Kit... :thumbs:
...But the really good news is I just got the up-dated shipping advice...My Siren 2 should be here tomorrow !!!
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