Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

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Unsettling study by a Harvard researcher about some commercially made e-juices. I don't know if anyone here uses these products.

Study Finds Signs Of Bacteria And Fungi In Many Vaping Products
Interesting. Some critique:
  • The study's results concern findings at level of detection (LOD), far, far below what is considered harmful
  • Brand names are not divulged and the method for defining the most common brands is left vague
  • The presence of biochemical indicators was tested in juice (in and outside of cartridges), but not in vapor. Heat and oxidation have an impact on these indicators and it is relevant to know what is really being consumed.
Of course that's just the friendly stuff, we might mention that the T.H. Chan school of medicine is funded by a Chinese real estate developer and that no industry independent research has been published in the health sector since the 60s.

All that aside, this is concerning but not surprising. The sector is both underregulated and not intelligently regulated. Pharma grade ingredients mean nothing if they're not combined, packed, transported, stored, sold and tested at all these stages to pharma standards.
 

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Unsettling study by a Harvard researcher about some commercially made e-juices. I don't know if anyone here uses these products.

Study Finds Signs Of Bacteria And Fungi In Many Vaping Products

Good observations, @Cooperant , and I found this part "interesting" as well:

He says more research is needed on a wider sampling of vaping products and their effects on human health. The study examined the brands most popular in 2013, and bought them in 2015-16, he says.

So the samples they tested were 2 or more years old...

(And glad I DIY as well!)
 

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Old meets new! I picked up an Aspire Speeder on a blowout sale, thinking this dual battery beast would support my occasional 30 watt fling with a 25mm Wotofo Flow Pro tank. The odd thing is that it has a variable VOLTAGE option! Popped on the Vision Vivi Nova, set it to 3.7 volts and it tootles beautifully!

Volts still taste better!:thumb:
 

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I just scanned that and I might have missed it but like all those they don't specify. Did I miss it?

I'm obviously way behind since others said the same earlier. Biased and bad science.

Nope.

You expect verifiable details? ;)
 

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What are the chances that those bacteria/fungi are going to live through my 400+ degree coil to make it into my vape??? :shock:
I figure if they did survive the 400+ degrees of my coils, they've earned the right to kick my .....
 

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Okay - Need some help again, this time identifying the maker/vendor & flavor (given the ingredient list) of a few bottles of e-liquid I just found in a storage bin . . . :facepalm:

:shock: Yes - Yes - I know I should have saved the shipping label or written it down somewhere, but I didn't . . . Just chalk-it up to being old and having another senior moment at the time . . . :rolleyes:

So - Anyone got any possible idea or know who produced these and/or what they are "Called" (besides just a number) . . . Okay I feel just dumb today, can't find any of this information online anywhere . . . :facepalm:


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Okay - Need some help again, this time identifying the maker/vendor & flavor (given the ingredient list) of a few bottles of e-liquid I just found in a storage bin . . . :facepalm:

:shock: Yes - Yes - I know I should have saved the shipping label or written it down somewhere, but I didn't . . . Just chalk-it up to being old and having another senior moment at the time . . . :rolleyes:

So - Anyone got any possible idea or know who produced these and/or what they are "Called" (besides just a number) . . . Okay I feel just dumb today, can't find any of this information online anywhere . . . :facepalm:


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That's gonna be a very tough call, Unc. You KNOW what the juice market was and is, and narrowing to exact would be close to impossible, I'd expect.

One suggestion (if you haven't already) is using the word "vape" in your Google search (see below). Sometimes doing so really helps me along a path.

One more thought. Do you really even care (what it is)? Does it taste good? If so, vape & enjoy it. :vapor:

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Okay - Need some help again, this time identifying the maker/vendor & flavor (given the ingredient list) of a few bottles of e-liquid I just found in a storage bin . . . :facepalm:

:shock: Yes - Yes - I know I should have saved the shipping label or written it down somewhere, but I didn't . . . Just chalk-it up to being old and having another senior moment at the time . . . :rolleyes:

So - Anyone got any possible idea or know who produced these and/or what they are "Called" (besides just a number) . . . Okay I feel just dumb today, can't find any of this information online anywhere . . . :facepalm:


MnBU9Ov.jpg


5gY20qu.jpg




XtRMSqs.jpg




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Can't help with that, Uncle, but if you do like them, at least the recipes are on the bottles!
 

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