What type of screws did you get?
Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)
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Just which screws did you get, didn't toolman list a couple different types?
What the H. These are an add on item at Amazon. Not ready to add another $25 item to get these. I'll look elsewhere.
I had to get a 20,000 mah battery pack so meeting the $25 order was not a problem.
I needed them badly and would have put together a $25 order i would have placed the order to get them.
The last time i built my Kompact kayfun it took 15 tries to trap the first lead.
They are definitely cheap enough if you are ordering something else anyway. I may consider the hex heads from China on ebay, unless I come up with something else I want from Amazon.
I've got $73.00 in my cart waiting on 2 items to complete my order, I order at least 3x a month from them.
I am more broke than a tramp in a desert, prob a good thing i would only get addicted to shinies heh
I followed shinyitis for a year and bought a lot of stuff.
Today i use an Istick Pico mod and a Kompact Kayfun atty.
Today i use an Istick Pico mod and a Kompact Kayfun atty.
*throws mi hat on the ground and tells my 3 legged 1 eared dog to look all morose. "ello guvnor spare a poor old ex smoker a shinie or three?"
There's a complaint I've heard in this thread, and others, and I wanted to take a moment to address it..
/rant mode (you have been warned)
I frequently hear or read about how the vaping industry has left MTL vapers behind and now only focuses only on cloud chasers. I've responded, more than once, that there's no market anymore. It's not that there are no MTL vapers. There are plenty of MTL vapers, but they aren't buying.
Be honest. How many of you bought the Cthulhu MTL atty? When I suggested it, I heard "I don't build." or "I don't like the (easily replaceable) drip tip." or...
How about the Siren 22/25? Same excuses...
Hurricane? Yup, same...
Nautilus V2? "But it takes the same coils, so why bother?" or "I don't like the way it looks." or "I don't like the way it fills."
Kabuki? See above, or "It costs too much."
The point is, companies have made a lot of MTL atomizers, and have been rebuffed by MTL vapers who eschew most new designs in favor of the tried and true. Kayfun Light Plus and kin, Nautilus and family, and Protanks (ok, and eGo ONEs with 1 ohm CLR coils) rule most of the market, and MTL vapers don't see any reason or need to change... to move away from what they have and know works.
Meanwhile, all any company has to do to appeal to the other side is say "Clouds!" and the products fly off the shelf by chasers looking for the next big plume.
There's nothing wrong with being happy with what you've got. There's nothing wrong with wanting something new. The problem is complaining about a perceived lack of product, and pooh-poohing everything that gets released as being inferior to what you've already got.
/rant off
Note that this does not apply to many of you, and isn't about anyone in particular. In fact, the post was prompted by an encounter between my son in Brooklyn and a shop owner there. Son wants to get mother-in-law off the stinkies, and asks me for advice. I ask what MIL has been smoking, how long, and how much. After getting an answer, I think on it and recommend an Innokin Endura, Kanger Emow, or Aspire K3. All simple MTL vapes that have been around long enough that availability should not be an issue, and decent MTL performance. When he asks the clerk, he is laughed at. They quit carrying the kits because they didn't sell anymore, but the coils still sell to people that own the tanks.
Sigh...
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/rant mode (you have been warned)
I frequently hear or read about how the vaping industry has left MTL vapers behind and now only focuses only on cloud chasers. I've responded, more than once, that there's no market anymore. It's not that there are no MTL vapers. There are plenty of MTL vapers, but they aren't buying.
Be honest. How many of you bought the Cthulhu MTL atty? When I suggested it, I heard "I don't build." or "I don't like the (easily replaceable) drip tip." or...
How about the Siren 22/25? Same excuses...
Hurricane? Yup, same...
Nautilus V2? "But it takes the same coils, so why bother?" or "I don't like the way it looks." or "I don't like the way it fills."
Kabuki? See above, or "It costs too much."
The point is, companies have made a lot of MTL atomizers, and have been rebuffed by MTL vapers who eschew most new designs in favor of the tried and true. Kayfun Light Plus and kin, Nautilus and family, and Protanks (ok, and eGo ONEs with 1 ohm CLR coils) rule most of the market, and MTL vapers don't see any reason or need to change... to move away from what they have and know works.
Meanwhile, all any company has to do to appeal to the other side is say "Clouds!" and the products fly off the shelf by chasers looking for the next big plume.
There's nothing wrong with being happy with what you've got. There's nothing wrong with wanting something new. The problem is complaining about a perceived lack of product, and pooh-poohing everything that gets released as being inferior to what you've already got.
/rant off
Note that this does not apply to many of you, and isn't about anyone in particular. In fact, the post was prompted by an encounter between my son in Brooklyn and a shop owner there. Son wants to get mother-in-law off the stinkies, and asks me for advice. I ask what MIL has been smoking, how long, and how much. After getting an answer, I think on it and recommend an Innokin Endura, Kanger Emow, or Aspire K3. All simple MTL vapes that have been around long enough that availability should not be an issue, and decent MTL performance. When he asks the clerk, he is laughed at. They quit carrying the kits because they didn't sell anymore, but the coils still sell to people that own the tanks.
Sigh...
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You said pooh-pooh!
Potty mouth.
I do own the Hurricane, Siren 22mm, Kabuki, original Nautilus, Tobeco Super mini (both coil and rta versions), Origen Tiny, Hussar, and a bucket more! The bottom line is that even the allmighty Kayfun and Marc Buggs are trying to cater to both camps and the end product is neither horse, nor donkey but unlike a mule, it has no endurance! Just my mini rant! Cheers all!
I personally have purchased 3 Nautilus 2s and I rarely ever do a drop in coil... But as I said in the Nautilus 2 thread, I want to support Aspire for creating a new MTL tank AND still supporting perhaps the best MTL coil of all time.
I wrote to aspire support and asked them to consider creating an iCare Solo type device for the Nautilus coil. I would buy a half dozen and guarantee it would have success.
Innokin has the new T20 following success with T18.
I have also purchased an authentic dvarw because it supports MTL. Tried the skyline and Hussar mtl versions and both are winners, though they are on the very high end (I tried out the clones). The new merkava has promise.
I've said it multiple places, I believe there IS a return of the MTL market and I think you are seeing that in both drop ins and design of high end RTAs than can actually support both MTL and DL, using replaceable screw in parts.
All RTA designers can take the lead from Hussar and by-ka v6.. To support both mtl and dl you need to be able to replace the airtube (best) or have a plug in reducer (2nd best IMO).. but don't stop there because you also need different chimney options for sure and perhaps different decks depending on your design.
Leaders that I know of in this area... Hussar, By-ka, Dvarw, Skyline... New Squape E looks promising. Different approaches but some really cool ideas.
Because of these innovations that is why I'm encouraged in the RTA arena.
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