Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

[Trigster]

can you buy stuff at 3F with Pay Pal?

last week I tried to get a Vika Fantasy with coils . almost immediately it went to restocking.

I need to get supplies.

I have yet to buy anything from 3F but the PayPal logo is at the bottom of their home page...And 2 quick questions if I may...1.) Approximately how far apart do you space your wraps ? & 2.) Do you use cotton pads and if so do you strip off either the top or bottom layers ?...Trig

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

The acronyms always trip me up. I'm never sure which set ups they are referring to. Let me take a stab at it and help me out where I make mistakes:

RBA: ReBuildable Atomizer. You supply the cotton, and the coil(s) that is attached to a positive and negative post on the deck

RDA: Rebuildable Drip Atomizer. An RBA where the juice is supplied by dripping it onto the coil through the drip tip

RTA: Rebuildable Tank Atomizer. An RBA where the juice is supplied by a tank that is designed so that the wick is in direct contact with the juice.

BF or squonker: An RBA with a hollow 510 pin that allows the juice to be Bottom Fed from a reservoir to the deck in order to make contact with the wicks

So you can use RDA/RDA/BF to describe any RBA? And then you can use RBA to differentiate the device from a tank that uses premade atomizers?

Technically, RBA could describe all rebuildables. However, it kinda.muddies the waters. Here's how I've seen it broken down, and how I use the terms:

Whuzzit: the thingy that attaches to the whoozits.

Oops.. wait... there... humor chip removed.

RBA = coil head specifically made for rebuilding. Examples include the eGo ONE CLR head, and the Kanger Subtank RBA.

RDA = Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer designed to leave the coils and wicking relatively exposed for application of eliquid (dripping). Examples include the Velocity and the Tsunami.

BF RDA (or the newly minted RSA) = Bottom Fed Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer (Rebuildable Squonking Atomizer) as above with a hollow center pin allowing liquid to be fed from the bottom instead of dripped or painted from the top. Examples include just about every RDA with modifications, or, more dedicated, the ReoMizer or Kanger Subdrip.

RDTA = Rebuidable Dripping Tank Atomizer is an RDA with an integrated tank below the coils. The wick is left in the tank, and liquid is fed when the tank is tolted or through capillary action. Typically wicked with cotton or rayon. Examples include the aptly named Ijoy RDTA and Kanger Dota.

Genisis = Nearly identical in structure to the RDTA, but uses stainless steel mesh or rope as the wick. Examples include the Viscious Ant Kraken and thr Z-Atty Pro.

Subohm tank = Tanks that use subohm coils. Some can be fitted with an RBA. Examples include the Kanger Subtank, the Aspire Atlantis, and the Smok TFV series.

Clearomizers = Tanks using coils above 1 ohm. Examples include the Kanger Protank series, the Aspire Nautilus, and the Aspire K1.

Cartos = Wick and coil filled tubes often used like an RDA, are also made with punches or slots cut in the sides and used with a hollow tank. Can also be used in squonking applications.

Further adding to the confusion are products like the Aspire Quad-Flex Survival Kit and the Itsuwa Rage Tank which allow conversion between one kind of tabk an another.

Did I miss anything?

Sometimes, Subohm tanks are called clearomizers... enh... whatever...

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[Trigster]

What is a really good 22 mm RTA that is MTL. Low wattage that would look really sharp on a Aspire X30 Rover? Has to be real easy to rebuild?

I've just got my 1st one on the way...I decided on the Siren 2 which looked the easiest to build to me...And in addition to the one TB listed I also considered the SXK Kayfun 5 Mini / Kayfun Prime & Doggy Style...Trig

 

[DancingHeretik]

What is a GTA? FT says that the Siren 2 is a GTA Tank Atomizer.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

What is a GTA? FT says that the Siren 2 is a GTA Tank Atomizer.

See? I knew I'd miss one.

It is NOT Grand Theft Auto...

Now that that's out of the way...

GTA = Genisis Tank Atomizer which is an RTA that places the build deck and chamber in the middle of the tank rather than at the bottom.

Honestly, it's an RTA with a huge wicking area beneath the chamber.

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[Trigster]

What is a GTA? FT says that the Siren 2 is a GTA Tank Atomizer.

I don't know if you've seen this review but it's got some pretty good views of the deck & a build...Trig
siren 2 gta review - Bing video

Sorry If I've Thrown This One Up Before !!!

 

[DancingHeretik]

See? I knew I'd miss one.

It is NOT Grand Theft Auto...

Now that that's out of the way...

GTA = Genisis Tank Atomizer which is an RTA that places the build deck and chamber in the middle of the tank rather than at the bottom.

Honestly, it's an RTA with a huge wicking area beneath the chamber.

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But, that's NOT a genesis atomizer. This Is.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

But, that's NOT a genesis atomizer. This Is.

Right. However, Digiflavor wanted a different designation for their mis-coil RTAs and they came up with this... it caught on... And, in fairness, Genisis atties are not called Genisis Tank Atomizers... just Genisis atomizers... kinda like Cher...

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[Trigster]

But, that's NOT a genesis atomizer. This Is.

I think maybe it's terms blending and changing with time...I've seen the definition Shawn used several times but I've also seen the one you cited as well ???

 

[DancingHeretik]

Right. However, Digiflavor wanted a different designation for their mis-coil RTAs and they came up with this... it caught on... And, in fairness, Genisis atties are not called Genisis Tank Atomizers... just Genisis atomizers... kinda like Cher...

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Quite true.

 

[corn flakes]

This is all too confusing.

 

[listopencil]

See? I knew I'd miss one.

It is NOT Grand Theft Auto...

Now that that's out of the way...

GTA = Genisis Tank Atomizer which is an RTA that places the build deck and chamber in the middle of the tank rather than at the bottom.

Honestly, it's an RTA with a huge wicking area beneath the chamber.

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That's what the Buddha and the KF5 clone that I have does. I could see calling it a RTA. But it does seem like there should be two different terms for the tank-under-the-deck kind and the deck-inside-the-chamber-inside-the-tank kind. GTA completely throws me off. Rebuildable Chambered Atomizer? RCA?

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

That's what the Buddha and the KF5 clone that I have does. I could see calling it a RTA. But it does seem like there should be two different terms for the tank-under-the-deck kind and the deck-inside-the-chamber-inside-the-tank kind. GTA completely throws me off. Rebuildable Chambered Atomizer? RCA?

When I'm on ABC, I call 'em GTA unless CBS preempts me with news from NASA... just sayin'

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[DancingHeretik]

That's what the Buddha and the KF5 clone that I have does. I could see calling it a RTA. But it does seem like there should be two different terms for the tank-under-the-deck kind and the deck-inside-the-chamber-inside-the-tank kind. GTA completely throws me off. Rebuildable Chambered Atomizer? RCA?

FTA? Floating Tank Atomizer?

 

[DavidOck]

Nah, DH, this is an FTA (flying trapeze artist, albeit still in training )

 

[Two_Bears]

I Wrapped micro coils where they are touching the coil on either side.

when I uses cotton I got organic cotton balls at Walgreens or CVS.

NEVER used the pads I wasted more than I used.

I have yet to buy anything from 3F but the PayPal logo is at the bottom of their home page...And 2 quick questions if I may...1.) Approximately how far apart do you space your wraps ? & 2.) Do you use cotton pads and if so do you strip off either the top or bottom layers ?...Trig

 

[Trigster]

I Wrapped micro coils where they are touching the coil on either side.

when I uses cotton I got organic cotton balls at Walgreens or CVS.

NEVER used the pads I wasted more than I used.

LOL...Thanks...I could have sworn you'd mentioned that you space your wraps...And now that I've got a pack of 180 pads coming I'll have enough to keep me going for a while with plenty of oppps back-up material...Trig

 

[listopencil]

FTA? Floating Tank Atomizer?

FPA. Fireplace Atomizer. Or FSA. Franklin Stove Atomizer. Or REA. Rebuildable Ensconced Atomizer.

 

[Katdarling]

'Ello, TPuffs!

"Perfectors", or something they called them?

Resurrectors, sweetie. 1.7s were the kat's meow.

Yup, it still holds true; the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Come on Boge ..... it's time for a new cartomizer.

Or a new karto TANK? (can't..... )

This PBusardo review and build might help you get familiar with the idiosyncrasies of the Beserker.

Does this tank make my mod look FAT?

Technically, RBA could describe all rebuildables. However, it kinda.muddies the waters. Here's how I've seen it broken down, and how I use the terms:

Whuzzit: the thingy that attaches to the whoozits.

Oops.. wait... there... humor chip removed.

RBA = coil head specifically made for rebuilding. Examples include the eGo ONE CLR head, and the Kanger Subtank RBA.

RDA = Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer designed to leave the coils and wicking relatively exposed for application of eliquid (dripping). Examples include the Velocity and the Tsunami.

BF RDA (or the newly minted RSA) = Bottom Fed Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer (Rebuildable Squonking Atomizer) as above with a hollow center pin allowing liquid to be fed from the bottom instead of dripped or painted from the top. Examples include just about every RDA with modifications, or, more dedicated, the ReoMizer or Kanger Subdrip.

RDTA = Rebuidable Dripping Tank Atomizer is an RDA with an integrated tank below the coils. The wick is left in the tank, and liquid is fed when the tank is tolted or through capillary action. Typically wicked with cotton or rayon. Examples include the aptly named Ijoy RDTA and Kanger Dota.

Genisis = Nearly identical in structure to the RDTA, but uses stainless steel mesh or rope as the wick. Examples include the Viscious Ant Kraken and thr Z-Atty Pro.

Subohm tank = Tanks that use subohm coils. Some can be fitted with an RBA. Examples include the Kanger Subtank, the Aspire Atlantis, and the Smok TFV series.

Clearomizers = Tanks using coils above 1 ohm. Examples include the Kanger Protank series, the Aspire Nautilus, and the Aspire K1.

Cartos = Wick and coil filled tubes often used like an RDA, are also made with punches or slots cut in the sides and used with a hollow tank. Can also be used in squonking applications.

Further adding to the confusion are products like the Aspire Quad-Flex Survival Kit and the Itsuwa Rage Tank which allow conversion between one kind of tabk an another.

Did I miss anything?

Sometimes, Subohm tanks are called clearomizers... enh... whatever...

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Shawn, you better blog this, deary. Abstolutely do it. ok?

 

[DancingHeretik]

FPA. Fireplace Atomizer. Or FSA. Franklin Stove Atomizer. Or REA. Rebuildable Ensconced Atomizer.

Or CTA, Cantilevered Tank Atomizer.

 

[Katdarling]

Or the MWS attie.

(my wick sucks)