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Top air RTAs
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G'day Shawn.
I'm looking to build my first RTA and noticed you have a nice collection of them!
I would like I top airflow as well.
My questions to your good self are
1. Which tank would be the easiest to build?
2. Which tank would be your Favourite?!
I would prefer a nice easy build been my first time.
Any help is great help
Top air and easy? If you can find one, the Smok TFV8 X-Tank or Baby Beast Brother.G'day Shawn.
I'm looking to build my first RTA and noticed you have a nice collection of them!
I would like I top airflow as well.
My questions to your good self are
1. Which tank would be the easiest to build?
2. Which tank would be your Favourite?!
I would prefer a nice easy build been my first time.
Any help is great help
SMOK TFV8 X-Baby Tank | Baby Beast Vape Tanks
It's a sub ohm tank with an available RBA section. This way, if you have a bad build you can switch to a coil head. The RBA section has a pretty simple velocity deck making it quite easy to build. Because it's an RBA, the barrel will slip on one off without having to manipulate the entire tank. There is an available, aftermarket bubbles glass for it, too.
If you really feel you must have a dedicated RTA, the original OBS Engine is quite easy to build... again, it has a velocity deck. You will have to manipulate the tank a bit to get it together.
A great deal of the remainder of the tanks are postless decks. They're actually quite easy to build, but can be a little fiddly to wick, and there's some mucking about trying to get the right leg length. Avoid the OBS Engine V2 for a while. It has an T-post setup that's a PITA to use.
I've written this reply off the top of my head without looking at the wall-o-tanks, so I reserve the right to change my mind if I happen to think of something later
Forgot to say which one was my favorite. The answer there is a solid resounding I dont know. There are still a few I haven't reviewed, and going through so many over the last few months... well, I've not given all of 'em the run time they truly deserve to make such a determination. I can tell you which are my least favorite. I could also tell you which I've used most.
Just ran through the list and realized that I've left one off...
The Advken Owl is a top air sub ohm tank, but it will use the Smok Baby Prince RBA section...
I'll add it to the list...
The Advken Owl is a top air sub ohm tank, but it will use the Smok Baby Prince RBA section...
I'll add it to the list...
Top air and easy? If you can find one, the Smok TFV8 X-Tank or Baby Beast Brother.
SMOK TFV8 X-Baby Tank | Baby Beast Vape Tanks
It's a sub ohm tank with an available RBA section. This way, if you have a bad build you can switch to a coil head. The RBA section has a pretty simple velocity deck making it quite easy to build. Because it's an RBA, the barrel will slip on one off without having to manipulate the entire tank. There is an available, aftermarket bubbles glass for it, too.
If you really feel you must have a dedicated RTA, the original OBS Engine is quite easy to build... again, it has a velocity deck. You will have to manipulate the tank a bit to get it together.
A great deal of the remainder of the tanks are postless decks. They're actually quite easy to build, but can be a little fiddly to wick, and there's some mucking about trying to get the right leg length. Avoid the OBS Engine V2 for a while. It has an T-post setup that's a PITA to use.
I've written this reply off the top of my head without looking at the wall-o-tanks, so I reserve the right to change my mind if I happen to think of something later
Forgot to say which one was my favorite. The answer there is a solid resounding I dont know. There are still a few I haven't reviewed, and going through so many over the last few months... well, I've not given all of 'em the run time they truly deserve to make such a determination. I can tell you which are my least favorite. I could also tell you which I've used most.
Thanks for that.
I shall have a look
I was having a bit of a gander at the OBS Engine
G'day Shawn.
I'm looking to build my first RTA and noticed you have a nice collection of them!
I would like I top airflow as well.
My questions to your good self are
1. Which tank would be the easiest to build?
2. Which tank would be your Favourite?!
I would prefer a nice easy build been my first time.
Any help is great help
I am obviously not Shawn.
I do have my own opinions about the top AF RTAs that I have used and my favorite of the bunch is the Augvape Intake. Super, super easy to build and wick. If you decide to buy one, I like the wicking method that Lightning Vapes uses in their video.For me, this RTA has better flavor than the OBS Engine, Engine Nano, and the original Zeus. I think the only other top AF RTA I have used is the Dead Rabbit, which I like but would not recommend to a beginner as it is a PITA to get right.
Sorry to threadjack, but I have never used a top AF atty before, can anyone explain the difference in how it feels/vapes compared to a bottom AF? I am under the impression that top AF is a bit more restrictive but I don't think that is necessarily true since it would depend a lot upon the design.
I am obviously not Shawn.
For me, this RTA has better flavor than the OBS Engine, Engine Nano, and the original Zeus. I think the only other top AF RTA I have used is the Dead Rabbit, which I like but would not recommend to a beginner as it is a PITA to get right.
Thanks
The devil is in the details, as they say...
Some can be quite restrictive... down to MTL. Others are quite airy. The difference initially came from HOW the air hit the coils. In early iterations, it hit the coils on top, and flavor wasn't the greatest. Spit back was also a problem. Newer designs with double wall chambers bring the air all the way to the bottom and sides of the coils. To me, at this point in the game, there is very little difference between top air and other RTAs in terms of performance. Leaking, on the other hand, can be nearly completely eliminated by using top air RTAs. Don't get me wrong... I still use a wide variety of RTAs with vastly different designs (using an OG Griffin tonight), but I am beginning to lean heavily towards top air...
ExVape Expromizer V4
This was a surprise!
It's a 23mm RTA standing 56mm tall with a 2ml capacity. In the box, there are o-rings, spare phillips screws, spare glass (it comes with an ultem tank installed), and a spare black drip tip insert (remember the 2 part Kayfun V5 drip tip? Yeah... like that... it comes with an ultem too installed.
This makes the third MTL top air atty I've reviewed. The OBS Engine MTL, the Geekvape Ammit MTL, and this. The Geekvape Ammit has the most air, this has the least, and the Engine sits right in the middle. Where the Engine and Ammit can manage a VERY restricted BL hit when wide open, this - even wide open - is tight. Dialed down, it's very tight indeed.
There are 6 pinholes on one side covered by a long, thin cyclops eye that allows anything from one to six to be open. I'm running it at 3. The air that enters here is passed through a double chimney to come at the coil through one small hole underneath.
The deck is a two-post affair such as those seen on a plethora of single coil tanks. There are two large screws capable of trapping small round wire as well as small exotic builds (I'm running 6 wraps of 26AWG SS316L 3mm. There are notches under the pieces that rise to either side of the screws that allow the wire to be bent around and snipped inside to avoid grounding out on the chimney.
Wrapped around the deck is a collar with three holes for juice flow. I'm finding that I can run it with just one hole open and still get plenty.
Building is easy. The coil can be wrapped either direction, and tucked under the screws. As with other atties like this, I recommend putting one under the screw, and lifting the other one into place with the screw backed out a bit more.
Once installed and tightened, fold the wires back and snip them. Positioning the coil is simple, too... center between the posts and just above the central airflow hole.
Wicking is likewise easy. Place the cotton in the coil, cut just shy of the full atty width, and tuck. No need to comb... there's plenty of room for the cotton. Make sure that all three holes are filled (not stuffed) or flooding might occur.
Assemble and fill. Although this is a MTL tank? The fill ports would do many a sub ohm tank proud.
Vaping it is the best experience for the three I've reviewed for MTL. I don't typically MTL (you read the disclaimer in the previous MTL atty reviews, right?), and I will reach for this one frequently in spite of that. The flavor is good, there's no real spit back (I do, on occasion get a drop or two in my mouth but it's not scalding hot, making me think it's condensation in that tight drip tip), it's easy to build and fill... I can almost find no flaws.
Almost... I find the inclusion of JFC to be rather unnecessary and annoying as the tank will often spin around when what I wanted to do was adjust the AFC. That, and the AFC is quite stiff.
Honestly, if you're an MTL vaper, I think you're gonna like this one. Not that the Ammit MTL and Engine MTL are bad... they're not... but this is better.
This was a surprise!
It's a 23mm RTA standing 56mm tall with a 2ml capacity. In the box, there are o-rings, spare phillips screws, spare glass (it comes with an ultem tank installed), and a spare black drip tip insert (remember the 2 part Kayfun V5 drip tip? Yeah... like that... it comes with an ultem too installed.
This makes the third MTL top air atty I've reviewed. The OBS Engine MTL, the Geekvape Ammit MTL, and this. The Geekvape Ammit has the most air, this has the least, and the Engine sits right in the middle. Where the Engine and Ammit can manage a VERY restricted BL hit when wide open, this - even wide open - is tight. Dialed down, it's very tight indeed.
There are 6 pinholes on one side covered by a long, thin cyclops eye that allows anything from one to six to be open. I'm running it at 3. The air that enters here is passed through a double chimney to come at the coil through one small hole underneath.
The deck is a two-post affair such as those seen on a plethora of single coil tanks. There are two large screws capable of trapping small round wire as well as small exotic builds (I'm running 6 wraps of 26AWG SS316L 3mm. There are notches under the pieces that rise to either side of the screws that allow the wire to be bent around and snipped inside to avoid grounding out on the chimney.
Wrapped around the deck is a collar with three holes for juice flow. I'm finding that I can run it with just one hole open and still get plenty.
Building is easy. The coil can be wrapped either direction, and tucked under the screws. As with other atties like this, I recommend putting one under the screw, and lifting the other one into place with the screw backed out a bit more.
Once installed and tightened, fold the wires back and snip them. Positioning the coil is simple, too... center between the posts and just above the central airflow hole.
Wicking is likewise easy. Place the cotton in the coil, cut just shy of the full atty width, and tuck. No need to comb... there's plenty of room for the cotton. Make sure that all three holes are filled (not stuffed) or flooding might occur.
Assemble and fill. Although this is a MTL tank? The fill ports would do many a sub ohm tank proud.
Vaping it is the best experience for the three I've reviewed for MTL. I don't typically MTL (you read the disclaimer in the previous MTL atty reviews, right?), and I will reach for this one frequently in spite of that. The flavor is good, there's no real spit back (I do, on occasion get a drop or two in my mouth but it's not scalding hot, making me think it's condensation in that tight drip tip), it's easy to build and fill... I can almost find no flaws.
Almost... I find the inclusion of JFC to be rather unnecessary and annoying as the tank will often spin around when what I wanted to do was adjust the AFC. That, and the AFC is quite stiff.
Honestly, if you're an MTL vaper, I think you're gonna like this one. Not that the Ammit MTL and Engine MTL are bad... they're not... but this is better.
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And now there are two waiting to be ordered (Kylin M and Diesel), and two additional to be reviewed (Owl and Rimshot).
Am I missing any?
Am I missing any?
I have avoid buying any SMOK product for years, so I am unfamiliar with them now.
Is it possible for me to buy just the Smok Baby Prince RBA section alone? I am eager to try it in my Advken Owl.
I am obviously not Shawn.
For me, this RTA has better flavor than the OBS Engine, Engine Nano, and the original Zeus. I think the only other top AF RTA I have used is the Dead Rabbit, which I like but would not recommend to a beginner as it is a PITA to get right.
Quite an interesting wicking method. Thx for the vid.
I look forward to seeing how it fairs for you. Post some pix when you're ready. And ask away with any questions. We're happy to helpG'day Shawn.
I'm looking to build my first RTA and noticed you have a nice collection of them!
I would like I top airflow as well.
My questions to your good self are
1. Which tank would be the easiest to build?
2. Which tank would be your Favourite?!
I would prefer a nice easy build been my first time.
Any help is great help
I am obviously not Shawn.
For me, this RTA has better flavor than the OBS Engine, Engine Nano, and the original Zeus. I think the only other top AF RTA I have used is the Dead Rabbit, which I like but would not recommend to a beginner as it is a PITA to get right.
Intake is mean only for restrictive MTL vaping, even with its AFC fully open, you can't use it for DL nor big airflow vaping. Have you tried GeekVape Ammit MTL? It is similar to Intake, who knows, you might like it more than Intake... Btw, installing a coil by the Intake's clamp like posts is not easy, at least not for beginners. That kind of posts:
seems to suit an octopus rather than human (with only 2 limited hands)
OBS Engine Nano can have real big airflow if you open the AFC fully, but its airflow coverage and its deck design (posts and juice holes positions) are mean for 3mm or smaller coil.
Original Zeus can be used for both MTL or DL with great flavor.
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