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Advken Owl tank
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So, this isn't a traditional RTA. Like the Smok X-Baby, it's a hybrid sub ohm tank that will accept an RBA. In this case, it happens to be a Smok Baby Prince RBA. NOT the Baby Beast RBA... that RBA requires a taller glass. Other hybrid sub ohm tank/RBA section rigs include the Cleito EXO, and Joyetech's Cubis and Unimax.

The Advken Owl is a bulbous little thing. It measures 24mm at the base, but with the 4ml bubble glass, it bells out to 30mm. It also comes with a 3ml straight glass. The tank stands 38.5mm tall, and ships with an oddly shaped, yet comfy conical 810 (Goon style... no o-rings) drip tip. Beneath the drip tip is a sliding top fill port.
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The machining on this tank is quite nice IMO, but it does make finding the slide a little difficult. There is an arrow set in one of the divots, but it honestly looks like a shadow and I overlook it often. Maybe it's just my old eyes...

To make this tank top air, the set the air flow ports under the fill port with an AFC that, although firm enough, has no stoppers.
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The air is then channeled through two pipes - one on either side - and comes up under the coil head... in this case, that's an RBA section.
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I find the air to be middling restrictive DL. More air, wide open, then something like the Intake, but less than the Zeus line. Part of that restriction is likely my build.

About that build... sigh...

The RBA is a dual coil setup with one screw on top and one screw on the side for each coil.
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And it's relatively small. Not as small as the POS that Joyetech tried to foist on folks with the Cubis RBA and maybe just a touch larger than the Cleito RBA, but small just the same. I was able to fit 3mm round wire coils in there, but I wouldn't hold out hopes for anything bigger or exotic. Maybe a 2.5mm simple Clapton, but that would IMO be pushing it. In fact, I think 2.5mm round wire build would likely work a bit better, and allow for more air.

Installing coils is not terribly straight forward. Install the vertical leg first, then the horizontal leg second. The process will require a couple time back and forth the the wire snips as you gauge how long that vertical leg needs to be. The horizontal leg can easily be trimmed after installation.
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This time, I'm running 3mm 6 wrap 26AWG AS316L spaced coils. I've lifted them away from the air holes about 1mm, and shoved them over to rest above the slightly offset air holes.

If you have issues with that bit of coiling, you're gonna love the wicking... Run your wicks in, the trim and wet and tuck one side. You'll have to make multiple cuts to the wick including a shoulder cut to get it to fit in the channel. And, the wick needs to be clear of the threads for the barrel. Once one side of one coil is done, repeat for the remaining three sides. I had tried to wick it with the bunny ears method (where the wicks are drawn up through the top of the barrel, trimmed, and tucked back down with tweezers, but I found the deck too small to tuck adequately without distorting the coils.
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Make sure you test resistance after building and wicking and attaching the barrel to ensure that you're not grounding out on something...
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I am not a big fan of this RBA section, but I'd rank it way way way over the Cubis. It's a little better than the Cleito. If they had made it suitable for a chunky single coil, it would have been a lot better.

That said, I do kinda like this funky looking tank. It vapes very nicely, the drip tip is oddly comfy (you're not jamming a tip into your mouth, but rather resting the conical top against your lips), the top fill (when you find it) is very easy to use... IF you like Baby Beast compatible coils, and want a leak resistant, top air tank, this is about your only choice, and it ain't a bad choice.
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So, this isn't a traditional RTA. Like the Smok X-Baby, it's a hybrid sub ohm tank that will accept an RBA. In this case, it happens to be a Smok Baby Prince RBA. NOT the Baby Beast RBA... that RBA requires a taller glass. Other hybrid sub ohm tank/RBA section rigs include the Cleito EXO, and Joyetech's Cubis and Unimax.

The Advken Owl is a bulbous little thing. It measures 24mm at the base, but with the 4ml bubble glass, it bells out to 30mm. It also comes with a 3ml straight glass. The tank stands 38.5mm tall, and ships with an oddly shaped, yet comfy conical 810 (Goon style... no o-rings) drip tip. Beneath the drip tip is a sliding top fill port.
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The machining on this tank is quite nice IMO, but it does make finding the slide a little difficult. There is an arrow set in one of the divots, but it honestly looks like a shadow and I overlook it often. Maybe it's just my old eyes...

To make this tank top air, the set the air flow ports under the fill port with an AFC that, although firm enough, has no stoppers.
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The air is then channeled through two pipes - one on either side - and comes up under the coil head... in this case, that's an RBA section.
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I find the air to be middling restrictive DL. More air, wide open, then something like the Intake, but less than the Zeus line. Part of that restriction is likely my build.

About that build... sigh...

The RBA is a dual coil setup with one screw on top and one screw on the side for each coil.
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And it's relatively small. Not as small as the POS that Joyetech tried to foist on folks with the Cubis RBA and maybe just a touch larger than the Cleito RBA, but small just the same. I was able to fit 3mm round wire coils in there, but I wouldn't hold out hopes for anything bigger or exotic. Maybe a 2.5mm simple Clapton, but that would IMO be pushing it. In fact, I think 2.5mm round wire build would likely work a bit better, and allow for more air.

Installing coils is not terribly straight forward. Install the vertical leg first, then the horizontal leg second. The process will require a couple time back and forth the the wire snips as you gauge how long that vertical leg needs to be. The horizontal leg can easily be trimmed after installation.
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This time, I'm running 3mm 6 wrap 26AWG AS316L spaced coils. I've lifted them away from the air holes about 1mm, and shoved them over to rest above the slightly offset air holes.

If you have issues with that bit of coiling, you're gonna love the wicking... Run your wicks in, the trim and wet and tuck one side. You'll have to make multiple cuts to the wick including a shoulder cut to get it to fit in the channel. And, the wick needs to be clear of the threads for the barrel. Once one side of one coil is done, repeat for the remaining three sides. I had tried to wick it with the bunny ears method (where the wicks are drawn up through the top of the barrel, trimmed, and tucked back down with tweezers, but I found the deck too small to tuck adequately without distorting the coils.
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Make sure you test resistance after building and wicking and attaching the barrel to ensure that you're not grounding out on something...
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I am not a big fan of this RBA section, but I'd rank it way way way over the Cubis. It's a little better than the Cleito. If they had made it suitable for a chunky single coil, it would have been a lot better.

That said, I do kinda like this funky looking tank. It vapes very nicely, the drip tip is oddly comfy (you're not jamming a tip into your mouth, but rather resting the conical top against your lips), the top fill (when you find it) is very easy to use... IF you like Baby Beast compatible coils, and want a leak resistant, top air tank, this is about your only choice, and it ain't a bad choice.
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IMHO, it is the best Top Airflow Subohm tank in the market as of this writing.

One will need to buy the RBA deck separately, but that RBA deck is trivial. Instead, this tank is meant for the mesh OCC (.16 or .2 ohm from Advken) that works fantastically well!!!

After running through few packs (each contains 5 pieces) of the mesh OCC, I dare to conclude, I am satisfy with the performance of the mesh OCC. This tank will be perfect only if Advken faces the reality, that kind of sliding top fill cap (same with the Advken CP TF) can never be practical. The only thing it can achieve is to frustrate its users when they need to quickly fill up the tank.
 

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Shawn, any word on what your fav's are?
Still trying to hold final judgement until they're all reviewed. Preliminary faves include the Zeus Dual for dual, the Expromizer V4 for MTL, and the Serpent Elevate for single.

Least liked... the TFMT, Cubis, Cleito EXO, Unimax
 

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@Shawn Hoefer – being a big fan of the Profile Unity the Geekvape Zeus M has sparked my interest. But the Google Gods must not be on my side this morn for I cannot find any information on this RTA. Would you mind sharing any info you have on this RTA? Thanks :thumb:
 

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@Shawn Hoefer – being a big fan of the Profile Unity the Geekvape Zeus M has sparked my interest. But the Google Gods must not be on my side this morn for I cannot find any information on this RTA. Would you mind sharing any info you have on this RTA? Thanks :thumb:
At present, all I have is a tracking number :p
 

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IMHO, it is the best Top Airflow Subohm tank in the market as of this writing.

One will need to buy the RBA deck separately, but that RBA deck is trivial. Instead, this tank is meant for the mesh OCC (.16 or .2 ohm from Advken) that works fantastically well!!!

After running through few packs (each contains 5 pieces) of the mesh OCC, I dare to conclude, I am satisfy with the performance of the mesh OCC. This tank will be perfect only if Advken faces the reality, that kind of sliding top fill cap (same with the Advken CP TF) can never be practical. The only thing it can achieve is to frustrate its users when they need to quickly fill up the tank.
Really? Quite like the fill method on this one... I just wish it was easier to find.
 

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Still trying to hold final judgement until they're all reviewed. Preliminary faves include the Zeus Dual for dual, the Expromizer V4 for MTL, and the Serpent Elevate for single.

Least liked... the TFMT, Cubis, Cleito EXO, Unimax
I wish I would have asked that question BEFORE mem day sales. I ordered the Kaes Solomon and the Digi Flavor Themis
 
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I wish I would have asked that question BEFORE mem day sales. I ordered the Kaes Solomon and the Digi Flavor Themis
It's splitting hairs, really. The Themis Standard is quite nice, and the Kaees Solomon 3 is probably #2 or 3 on the list of faves so far...
 

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@Shawn Hoefer, I wanted to ask about the ExVape Expromizer V4.

Can you use it for restricted DTL at all?

I know that it's possible with the Ammit MTL, but wicking on the Ammit is a little bit more tricky.
Not in my opinion. At its widest open point, it's nearly as tight as the Ammit or Engine at their loosest...
 

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The Vandy Vape Kylin M arrived today. I'll post the review of it next Monday.

I've been using the Rimfire a lot the last couple of weeks, and I have to add a con... because of the reverse threaded glass and juice flow control and air flow control... well, it gets frustrating trying to adjust anything 'cause EVERYTHING moves.
 
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