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Top air RTAs

Discussion in 'RTA' started by Shawn Hoefer, Aug 21, 2018.

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  1. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Your time and efforts here are much appreciated here Shawn. Thank you. My vote is for single 21700 regulated devices, my collection is leaning in this direction personally.
     
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  2. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    Thank you very much for your time and dedication @Shawn Hoefer, it has been much appreciated. Hopefully there won't be any more top air RTA's to hit the market soon.

    And I think that the 21700 mod suggestion may be more positively received than sex toys, but I could be wrong.
     
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  3. Daniel Forsyth

    Daniel Forsyth Ultra Member

    Mar 26, 2019
    Victoria, Australia
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  4. mimöschen

    mimöschen Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 15, 2016
    I vote for single 21700 devices too.
    My second vote is for sex toys though:pervy:
     
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  5. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Prefer a good shower massage myself.
     
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  6. AngeNZ

    AngeNZ Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2018
    New Zealand
    Thank you for doing such an awesome job of your reviews :thumb:

    My vote is for sex toys first, then 21700 single devices ;)
     
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  7. Shawn Hoefer

    Shawn Hoefer ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 21, 2015
    Arkansas Ozarks
    I dunno, now... After @Letitia brought up the shower massage, I realized there are a lot more sex toys than I thought there were... and I was pretty sure there were a lot... I mean, I've heard of there being a lot...

    Single 21700 devices it is!
     
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  8. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Heard of huh...
     
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  9. Shawn Hoefer

    Shawn Hoefer ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 21, 2015
    Arkansas Ozarks
    Let's attempt to break it down, shall we...

    DUAL COIL TOP AIR RTAs in order of preference* with brief explanation
    1. Geekvape Zeus Dual (dual) Just all around a nice tank
    2. Hellvape Dead Rabbit (dual) The only complaint might be that it uses really long wicks
    3. Acevape MK (dual) A slightly more restrictive version of the Dead Rabbit
    4. Geekvape Zeus X (dual) I like the way this vapes, but that super stubby drip tip...
    5. Kaees Solomon 3 (dual mode) HAving a tank designed for two styles of building is fine, but it can also be confusing
    6. OBS Engine II (dual) Funky inverted build deck knocked it from closer to the top of the list
    7. Digiflavor Themis Standard (dual) A lack of capacity kept this from scoring higher
    8. Timesvape Diesel (dual) For all its flaws, it vapes really nicely
    9. QP Designs Juggerknot (dual) A little too restrictive, now, but way ahead of its time, then
    10. FDX Athena (dual) Adding LEDs to the bottom of a Zeus does not a better tank make
    11. OBS Engine (dual) Once you get past the potential for flooding and spitback, this is a fine tank, but it's a bit dated, now
    12. OBS Engine Mini (dual) Same as the OG Engine, but smaller diameter...
    13. VooPoo Rimfire (dual) The juice flow control and reverse threading makes it a confusing tank to fill
    14. Wotofo Sapor (dual) Also dated, and put together kinda sloppily... Another attempt at unnecessary JFC**
    15. Vaperz Cloud TFMT (dual) Just all around a no!
    SINGLE COIL TOP AIR DL RTAs in order of preference* with brief explanation
    1. Wotofo Elevate (single) The only thing I didn't like was the ever so slight rounding of the edges on the very bottom of the tank section... Made it look a little funky on my mods.
    2. QP Designs Juggerknot Mini (single) Great vape IF you can get it filled without throwing it across the room in anger
    3. Advken CP-TF (single) The first time I saw a chimney fall out of a mod... kinda freaked me out
    4. Kaees Solomon 3 (single mode) See above
    5. Kaees Solomon II (single) Quite honestly, the gold accent... Just wasn't feeling it
    6. Augvape Intake (single) Just too tight for me, but not MTL
    7. Vapefly Horus (single) Way too airy for a single coil
    8. Geekvape Zeus (Single) I hate that twisted lead/wicking situation
    9. OBS Engine Nano (single) See above
    RBA BASED TOP AIR RTAs in order of preference* with brief explanation
    1. Smok TFV8 X-Baby (dual RBA) Honestly, it's a real toss up between the 1 and 2 positions, here... I don't like the swing out fill method on the TFV8 X...
    2. Advken Owl (dual RBA) ...but the shape and weight, and the Baby Prince RBA head are kinda bummers for this one
    3. UD Athlon 25 (dual RBA) Dated and tiny
    4. Aspire Cleito EXO (dual RBA) Plastic tank
    5. Joyetech Cubis (single RBA) Just so much no!
    6. Joyetech Unimax (single RBA) Just so much no!
    MESH COIL TOP AIR RTAs in order of preference* with brief explanation
    1. VandyVape Kylin M (mesh) The deck and greater capacity helped this one to the top
    2. Digiflavor Themis Mesh (mesh) A little more capacity, and it would have been a better contender
    3. VandyVape Mesh (mesh) This one is nice, but a little restrictive and does not have coil compatibility with the others
    MTL TOP AIR RTAs in order of preference* with brief explanation
    1. Exvape Expromizer V4 (single MTL) Hands down winner of this category... True MTL
    2. OBS Engine MTL (single) No real complaints... Just not as good as the Expromizer
    3. Geekvape Ammit MTL (single) The excess weight of the top cap was a bit of a bummer
    *As always, your taste and mileage may vary. These are just the opinions of one very tired man (with a boat load of top air tanks). I did not rebuild them all and vape them side by side. I relied on rereading my reviews, memory, and which tanks I grab first as I am walking out of the door.

    **Apparently, I missed posting the writeup for this one, and now I can't find it. Don't worry... Ya ain't missing much...

    ETA: For those keeping count, that 36 tanks... Sheesh!
     
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  10. muth

    muth Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    May 20, 2014
    Boston, MA, USA
    @Shawn Hoefer Had to come by to thank you for all your time and effort. Folks like you make our lives a little easier. Much appreciation:)

    I vote single 21700 too. The ones I have get a lot of use. I'd like to see more.
     
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  11. tailland

    tailland Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 11, 2018
    Germany
    Thanks to this thread, I backed out of ordering another "real" RTA (besides the 2 Nano RTAs I already got), and instead opted for 2 x Baby Prince RBAs to feed my 2 Advken Owl Top Airflow subohm atties :)
     
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  12. Vapemesilly

    Vapemesilly Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2017
    Nevada
    Shawn...thanks for your dedication in seeing this through. Most people would have stopped after a handful of units.
     
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  13. chanelvaps

    chanelvaps ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2013
    Burbank CAlifornia
    Never mind I found the answer

    Great job and I have followed this thread religiously.
     
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  14. greek mule

    greek mule Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2018
    Athens,Greece
    Shawn..RESPECT!
     
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  15. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    @Shawn Hoefer, found something interesting with the Exvape Expromizer V4.

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    You can also adjust the airflow further by altering the tightness of the centre screw with airhole, when you have slight movement of the positive post on the build deck is the least restriction to no movement being the most.

    Stumbled across this after cleaning and rebuilding a few times.
     
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  16. Jumpin' In...

    Jumpin' In... Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 11, 2013
    Maui, Hawaii
    Would you by chance know the diameter of the deck air hole?
     
  17. Daniel Forsyth

    Daniel Forsyth Ultra Member

    Mar 26, 2019
    Victoria, Australia
    It's a small hole!
    Roughly 1.4mm diameter:)
     
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  18. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    @Jumpin' In... , you forced me to use my Vernier Calipers!

    1.6mm is the diameter of the airflow under the coil. :thumb:
     
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  19. Daniel Forsyth

    Daniel Forsyth Ultra Member

    Mar 26, 2019
    Victoria, Australia
    I've just measured with my digital calipers and I got 1.43mm!
    Someone's calipers need calibrationo_O
     
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  20. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    Don't trust Digital @Daniel Forsyth, I've used analogue.
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    Mitutoyo 530-312, quality Japanese craftsmanship.
     
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