Totally Wicked USA - off on the wrong foot?

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I believe cash's Apple is $20 for 30ml, with 10ml being $10. I am not sure if all flavours come in 30ml bottles, coconut doesn't for example (I could be wrong though). Shipping seems to be similar across both sites but then I shouldn't be mentioning shipping maybe :) Both liquids get good reviews. There does seem to be large differences between the prices of the liquid out there, what does that say about the liquid market?
 

leaford

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I haven't dealt with either Janty or Puresmoker but from what I can tell Steve only charges 20 bucks for 30 ml.
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He has two types of juice, the Pure juice which is $10 for 15ml, and the Cash Juice which is $10 for 10ml.

Like I say, whether or not it's worth it to pay $10 more is up to you, but I think it's just too shallow and simplistic to say it all comes from the same place, or it's all basically the same product.
 

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I don't see how TW is overpriced at $30, but Janty and Puresmoker aren't, and I disagree that they are all the same product any more than Coke and Pepsi are. Or Oban and Crown Royal. Or a Crown7 and a Sedansa.

I also buy the 50ml from puresmoker....and I like it. I also tried the TW and I personally can't say it's better than puresmoker's. At the least, I would say they were comparable to me. So why would I pay $30 for 30ml? For me, that's overpriced.

It's just like anything else though. I used to smoke Marb's until they went up to $6/pack...then I switched to generics because I really could not justify paying that much more for something that I could get for so much less and which served the same purpose. Yet I know some who will always pay for the Marbs because they refuse to smoke anything else. Good for them! I'm not going to the poorhouse to support a smoking habit...neither by cigarette brand nor e-liquid brand. I have grandchildren to buy for...there's where my spare money goes :D

And by the same token, I don't buy Janty's either...too pricey for me. BUT....I had seen a rum flavor on Liberation's site for $15 for 10ml. Although I wouldn't normally pay that, I would like to try it so I will as a one shot deal and if it's that spectacular, I would continue. If it's just okay, I probably wouldn't continue to pay that price.

I have spent more on juice than I have another other aspect of e-smoking. I just try to be frugal where I can.

Lu
 

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I don't want to get involved in this really but want to just point out one thing to be fair.

One of the reasons Wicked costs more than some others is because Pillbox spends money on getting lab tests carried out to check that it really is what we are told it is and there are no known toxins apart from nicotine. He has to recoup costs and some people are prepared to fork out for extra safety measures.

the only TW lab test that i know of-at least that has been disclosed-was one ingredient test on a random sample many months ago...have there been other ukas lab tests carried out regularly and across the range since?

if not,then using safety as a selling point,or to explain prices doesnt really fly...
 
SambucaLu, I agree with what you are saying. Cash has done a great job building up his rep and his products are liked by those who try them (along with his customer service). There will always be people who go for a cheaper product, I am sure there a lot of people who wont buy from cash because they see some generic liquid thats $12 for a gallon. That's just business. Jason has actually shown that he will drop prices if it brings him line with competition that he wants to compete with; the price of shipping has drop by quite some margin since when the site first opened. I also know that Jason intends to provide to the community for a long time to come and as such needs to build a business rather than some flash in the pan company. I think this is something that consumers forget. A guy in his bedroom can probably ship the fluid over a few bucks for 30ml and sell it on at $12 and be happy, huge profit. But when you run a company that is more than 1 person then the costs really mount up.

I am in no way comparing Puresmokers when I say this, having re-read this it might come across like that so sorry if that is the case.
 

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Mr Darcy>> The Lab testing is only a small part of my overall approach to suppliying a decent, clean, fair priced liquid. I can buy if i choose to, 20ml bottles of fluid from one supplier i know for $1. (You might not realise this but cheap is sometimes also dangerous, especially with nicotine fluid)

Thing is i would never do this as you can guarantee it is riddled with impurities, the Wicked Fluid i know for sure is clean, i have seen it being manufactured, seen the workers bottling it and labelling it. Currently we have a full powerpoint presentation that will in the next month be available to View on both wicked sites showing the production facilitiys, full ingredients and the ethos behind the production process.

At the end of the day there is no miracle product out there be it Wicked Fluid or Red Bull, the differences between Red Bull and a normal energy drink arent startling. But these differences make a huge difference to consumers preferences.

I recognise that some users on here see my bullish points of view as being arrogant, i dont believe this is the case. From my perspective its frustrating to be inputting massive amounts of time, energy and money into building what i believe to be a product that is of great quality, is fully legal to sell, is as safe as i can make it and will be the first product Of its kind to set a bench mark, certainly in the Uk, as the only Brand of E.Fluid that can be legitametly sold over the counter.

I dont believe i need justify my prices, as a consumer i buy what i perceive is of fair value, my customers i feel will or wont do the same with Totally Wicked.

Some shop at Aldi, Some Asda, Some Tescos, Some Sainsburys. Is a Liddle tin of 10p baked beans the same as heinz at 7 times the cost????

Well plenty of people believe so.
 

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Hi Kate...No i hadnt seen that thread till you highlighted it.. Looks pretty grim though.

I cant imagine its anything to do with glass bottles, i would expect less reaction from glass than any other type of container.

Blood is stored in plastic these days because it clots very quickly in glass. Apropos of nothing much...
 

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Us consumers seem to forget rather quickly that this substance isnt entirely legal in it's current form. Granted it's not Illegal either but im grateful to the suppliers that i use for making it possible to obtain this stuff locally and in a somewhat safer form than buying from the cheapest source from China.

btw Jason , are you also trying for 57 varieties ;)

"Totally wicked...the heinz of e-liquid" haha
 
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SambucaLu, I agree with what you are saying. Cash has done a great job building up his rep and his products are liked by those who try them (along with his customer service). There will always be people who go for a cheaper product, I am sure there a lot of people who wont buy from cash because they see some generic liquid thats $12 for a gallon. That's just business. Jason has actually shown that he will drop prices if it brings him line with competition that he wants to compete with; the price of shipping has drop by quite some margin since when the site first opened. I also know that Jason intends to provide to the community for a long time to come and as such needs to build a business rather than some flash in the pan company. I think this is something that consumers forget. A guy in his bedroom can probably ship the fluid over a few bucks for 30ml and sell it on at $12 and be happy, huge profit. But when you run a company that is more than 1 person then the costs really mount up.

I am in no way comparing Puresmokers when I say this, having re-read this it might come across like that so sorry if that is the case.

I shouldn't worry about incurring the wrath of PureSmoker partisans. We're a very laid-back bunch because our liquid ships quickly and we always have plenty of pocket money... :cool:
 

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Yes, and that's why I didn't want to slam pillbox nor TW. So if that's important to a user, then yes, they probably don't mind spending the extra bucks.

But for your average Joe Schmo (like me)....who is currently smoking liquid that could turn green any minute, through a fish tank filter....well, I guess some of our standards are a bit low for that price....LOL

Lu

uh..green liquid and fish tank filter? is this a joke?

i had put totally wicked on my top 3 list, but changed my mind after i popped into that forum and saw all those deleted threads something not right there. i got the burn from smoking everywhere's smoking nowhere customer service after my ecig went kaplooey. now i'm trying to choose better.

so now i have a top 2 instead of 3. guess that's not bad. i'm getting a bit fizzled by this so i guess i'll just take the plunge and go spend some money, but not at totally wicked i guess.
 

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uh..green liquid and fish tank filter? is this a joke?

Lion, this is a very old thread. There was a time when Johnson Creek's juice was turning green. I just happened to be vaping it during that time....and with Fluval fish filter in my cartridge. That is what this was all about.

But so as not to drag up an old, old thread, I am closing this one out.

Lu
 
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