Treasure Chest Ranting

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daisyd

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I concur Lbug. I don't do this for the thank yous (not that anyone else does). I do sometimes have a moment of dissapointment when I don't hear back about something, but I consider it a growing experience. I am learning to give freely without expectations (high expectations with big let downs have been a struggle for me in my life). We all want to be recognized for our good deeds. That's natural. I just choose to not let it deter me when I don't get thanked repeatedly. JMHO
 

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Agreed (what T2K said). When I give a gift, which is what PIFing is all about, I try very hard to 'give without strings'. To ME that means the giver can share it, keep it, toss it, give it, or even (yes) sell it. I do not expect a thank you, positive feedback, or praise. While it is nice to receive these things, it's never expected, and will not change how I give. Once it leaves my hands it is no longer mine and the owner can do with it as they please, I only ask to be notified "if there is a problem".

Now, all that said.... it does upset me if I repeatedly see things for sale that I've gifted. (note I said repeatedly.. if something is absorbed into someone's stash, I do not expect them to remember where every thing they got came from. If there are several bottles of juice they bought and my one bottle I gave them in a sale, that's perfectly understandable. But if I give someone 20 bottles of juice and then see them all for sale the next week.. that's an entirely different situation. But I still TRY not to get upset. Maybe they need the money more than I)

And it happens often... I do see things for sale, and I see things given away, or used for other purposes, but it all has to be taken in context. If I see that same person being active in PIF and helping others, who I am to judge? So they didn't like what I sent, or ended up not needing it, or maybe needed money that week to pay the rent... who cares if they are helping others? And is it really any of my business? (just rambling here.. not pointing any fingers or anything!)

For thanking purposes, that's completely my opinion. I know many feel differently, and though I was raised to thank everyone personally, I certainly don't expect nor require it. It would clog my mailbox. Since most people do not list their 'usernames' on packages, tracking down the sender would be difficult for some. I sign mine from Lbug, but I know most people do not. I don't know. I think most everyone is very thankful, and I am usually thanked profusely ahead of time. That and the nice little notes on the Positive Feedback thread, seem like enough.

This. +1!!!!
 

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hi, I've been lurking here for a while.....I have only bought stuff in the classifieds, but did do a trade here also. I always write to say thanks and I got it. ok so, I have no memory cells left. so my rule is that I have to take the package immediately to the computer and I can't use the item(s) until I write the person. that usually jogs my memory. I keep all my sent pms here so if in doubt I can check and see if I sent the TY or not. I feel one should at least let someone know the pkg arrived, even if you paid for it! :)
 

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I do this with classy sellers or PIFers. It was how I was taught. Maybe I am just getting too dang old, but a thank you it arrived safely doesn't seem like it should be such an imposition. Sad state this society is in when people are too busy for common courtesy yet can prowl PIF and grab offers all day long. Like I said, I am getting too old. I'm so sick of the "ME" mentality. One of the reasons I love reading here......most of the time ;-)

I have had enough lost by the USPS, and my faith in them is not great. I don't feel the PIF is complete until I know is has been received in good condition. I don't need people to prostrate themselves in gratitude. Simple kindness and common courtesy is all and isn't that what PIF is all about anyway?????
 

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HMMM, I have a ?. I too forget to send a TY at times and at other times I think I may have sent one. Is there any way to keep the sent pm's?? I see there is an outbox (sent folder) in my profile settings but there is nothing there. Is there a way to keep my sent pms some where???

In your settings check the box for save a copy of sent pm's
 

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I know we all have different opinions, and were raised differently, and expect different things.... but I hope that our differences will not be taken personally, nor change how anyone feels about this community and it's participants.

No matter what our views, we should try and remember that doesn't mean someone isn't thankful. I've had people thank me months later and tell me how my small gesture effected, not only their lives, but the lives of others. Those little notes actually meant more to me, than a quick little generic "thanks, I got it" ever did.

I don't want to upset anyone with my views or opinions.. because they are just that "my views and opinions".. and I've probably rambled way to much about this (needed to chat this week), so I'll let this be my last post on this subject. PIF means so much- to me and others.. that I pray that those feeling slighted and hurt will not let that shape and taint their experiences here. ♥

We can help people, change their lives - even in small ways, AND that of others.. without ever knowing. Isn't that what 'Paying It Forward' is truly about?
 

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Your so good LBug!You truly understand what PIF is all about.Caring and sharing and helping others.Its not about the Thank yous or how big or small the contribution is.Its not about keeping track,its just giving from the heart to help a friend expecting nothing in return.Just happiness in knowing you did the right thing.Letting a freebee or treasure pass because you know it could be better used and more appreciated by someone who is truly in need.Its all about doing the right thing just because its right.No praise needed.Just being the best you that you can be for yourself.Knowing in your heart that you did it just because you care.
 

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Your so good LBug!You truly understand what PIF is all about.Caring and sharing and helping others.Its not about the Thank yous or how big or small the contribution is.Its not about keeping track,its just giving from the heart to help a friend expecting nothing in return.Just happiness in knowing you did the right thing.Letting a freebee or treasure pass because you know it could be better used and more appreciated by someone who is truly in need.Its all about doing the right thing just because its right.No praise needed.Just being the best you that you can be for yourself.Knowing in your heart that you did it just because you care.
 

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I agree as well. I think we've all been touched by Bug's extraordinary giving spirit at one point or another ♥ She and you (and so many others) are good examples to us all.

Also, I sort of get where people are coming from with the lack of thank-yous.. But I feel like, sometimes people just simply forget. It doesn't mean they are ungrateful or bad people, it just means they probably are either absent minded, busy or both. Most of the time I just consider no news good news, and move on. If it's a really big PIF that I want to make sure got there, I just shoot a PM. "Hey, just checking in to make sure XXX got there okay!" usually this is responded with an "Omg, I totally forgot to thank you. Yes it got here." etc. I really have yet to have a person not reply to that inquiry, but if it happens oh well. I gave and that is good karma and good feelings whether or not it was acknowledged.

Your so good LBug!You truly understand what PIF is all about.Caring and sharing and helping others.Its not about the Thank yous or how big or small the contribution is.Its not about keeping track,its just giving from the heart to help a friend expecting nothing in return.Just happiness in knowing you did the right thing.Letting a freebee or treasure pass because you know it could be better used and more appreciated by someone who is truly in need.Its all about doing the right thing just because its right.No praise needed.Just being the best you that you can be for yourself.Knowing in your heart that you did it just because you care.
 
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Your so good LBug!You truly understand what PIF is all about.Caring and sharing and helping others.Its not about the Thank yous or how big or small the contribution is.Its not about keeping track,its just giving from the heart to help a friend expecting nothing in return.Just happiness in knowing you did the right thing.Letting a freebee or treasure pass because you know it could be better used and more appreciated by someone who is truly in need.Its all about doing the right thing just because its right.No praise needed.Just being the best you that you can be for yourself.Knowing in your heart that you did it just because you care.

Perfectly said. :wub:
 

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Leanne, you are Extraordinary!

Keyz, I agree with you for the most part except for the "need" part. There are the Want and Emergency threads for real needs. Unless the giver of a TC stipulates that it goes to someone who is truly in need, or other stipulations ie newbie, can't that be an opportunity for someone who simply desires to have the TC for what ever reason they want it for? I thought that's what makes it a fun thread. I believe Leanne said, and I feel the same way too, that once something leaves my hands, it doesn't matter to me what happens to it. I can hope that it is used, but my part was the gifting from my heart. The only stipulation I put on a TC was that it go to someone who hadn't taken one in a month. I have never taken one, although I've been tempted but sometimes been too late or the realization that i didn't Desire the item(s) that much and didn't go for it. One day there might be something that I simply Desire to have and i don't want to feel guilty about taking it. There's no fun in that at all.

I love PIF and I have not seen so many what I call Earth Angels on any message forum before I found PIF. The sharing, caring and heart just blows me away. Hugs.


Your so good LBug!You truly understand what PIF is all about.Caring and sharing and helping others.Its not about the Thank yous or how big or small the contribution is.Its not about keeping track,its just giving from the heart to help a friend expecting nothing in return.Just happiness in knowing you did the right thing.Letting a freebee or treasure pass because you know it could be better used and more appreciated by someone who is truly in need.Its all about doing the right thing just because its right.No praise needed.Just being the best you that you can be for yourself.Knowing in your heart that you did it just because you care.
 

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The only problem I would have with selling something I gave them is if they said they were in dire straights and I gave them a bunch of stuff to help out, then saw it for sale shortly after. I have only given once in that situation, and I gave strict instructions to give it away once things were better and they could afford equipment they were more comfortable with. Things from the PIF thread or the Swaps thread, the way I see it, they did pay for it. It was a barter (in a way) instead of cash, but they gave stuff as well as got stuff, so I have no right to put strings on that.
 

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once something is given away it's no longer the giver's, and the taker can do with it as he/she wants. but that does not alleviate the disappointment of seeing something in the classifieds, especially if it was given because there seemed to be a dire need.
i definitely could never match l'bug's generosity of heart - and there's more than one l'bug on this forum - but i would expect a note that all arrived well and that the cirumstances were as presented. we are all human, and none of us like to be played.


i also want l'bug to remember back when she took a break from pif because things did not go right. for this reason i'm grateful for our mods who try to keep an eye on us and at least try to weed out the worst offenders. it's not always possible but it helps.
 

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One of the rules of our group is that items taken from here can not be used for monitary gain. That's been in place from the beginning. This is something people agree on when they come into our social group and participate. If they don't want to follow the rules, they may simply do their asking and trading on the ECF classifieds.
 
I am a little confused. If I get something in PIF- like say there is a lot of 5 fruits and a beer flavor- I dont like beer- (sorry- more of a tequilla type girl :) ) can I not put the beer one up the next time I PIF something? OR put it in a TC? Like I have a beer from joeblow that I got in PIF, and a lemon that I got from susieQ and neither of them are my tastes- can I PIF them or TC them??

NOt SELL THEM- I dont have a problem with that- I just thought that PIF was kinda like trading- BUT, without specifics- Like A AND C are not trading, A is sending to F and T is sending to A and in a little while K will send to F and then offer one that P can take...

AM I totally lost? if so just let me know- its a normal state of mind for me so I wont be upset :)
 
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