Tried Attys, Tanks and catros now what ?

[Mellow]

Hey guys been going this for ohh 7-8 months I had a bad time with atty dieing on me or getting a horrible taste after a day or 2 of vaping, moved onto Cartos and I like them esp at first they really are great but taper down after hours of using one, tried the t tanks and they are nice but the flavor is almost cut in half I am trying to figure out where I should go from here I have quit analogs and am just looking for the right fit, heard a few things about clearos, bottom feeders box mods just wondering what would be the most logical next step, oh I am using a Riva 510 and joye Ego atm if that helps

Thanks in advance guys

 

[Kurt]

My main vape is with Boge cartos, at 2.0, 2.4 and 3.2 ohms, depending on how much power I want. Of all the brands of cartos I've tried, Boges are head and shoulders better, in taste, air flow, ability to clean, and vapor. If you have not tried them, I recommend them. LitecigUSA.com is having a sale now, and I recently stocked up for a very good price.

If you want to go further, or try other things, I recommend the SmokTech dual coil cartos. I love the flavor of 3.2 ohms, but I also love the vapor of 2.0 ohms. The dual coils give both. The 1.6 ohm DC is 2 3.2 ohm coils in parallel. So the heat is of a 3.2 ohm coil, but there is twice as much of it vaporizing juice. A great vape! But be aware that you will run down your batt much faster than with a regular single-coil carto or atty. About the same as a 1.6 ohm LR atty. MadVapes sells them, as do a few other vendors.

There is also the various E2-style ceramic cartos, which are without the cottony filler, and more of a juice tank with the coil near the top. I personally find that 3.2 ohms is plenty hot, but the flavor is really about the best of any carto/atty I have tried. These are either made by Royal Smoker, as a metal-tube type or a clear tube, where you can see the juice. Not a big fan of the clearos. They work well, great vapor and flavor, but the juice will get dark and yicky looking, and the tubes can come apart in the pocket, causing 1 - 1.8 mL of juice to leak all over...which is a serious if it is high-nic and you don't know it is getting on your skin. They are a bit of a pain to fill...can't add juice through a drip tip like on a regular or DC carto, and they come with a small syringe...I remove all inner rings with a paper clip and juice drip down the side, then put the most inner ring back on and a drip tip and vape. I never use the mouth-piece tips the come in cartos, I always use a drip tip. You can't just chain vape on these, however, like a regular carto. The juice on the coil gets depleted in a hit or two, and you have to tilt or wait to get more juice to wick. For this, and other reason, therefore...

...there is a more recent ceramic carto version, the E4, which supposedly improves on some of the shortcomings of the E2 types, but I've not tried them yet. Nor have a read many reviews on them. They might be great. Perhaps another vet has some experience with them.

 

[PattyR]

You might want to try the Vision tank at gotvapes.com. It holds about 3-3.5mL of juice and produces a very clean, warm vape. Or, if you prefer cartos, I really like the Diamond Dual coils at gotvapes. The filler seems to be a bit better than most fillers - at least in my opinion They're also pretty easy to rinse out with hot water and re-use.

The ultimate vape for me is my bottom fed REO at reosmods.com. Or, you can check their sub-forum in the Suppliers section.

Hope this helps.

 

[Kurt]

You bring up a good point, Patty, and that is my response assumed Mellow was not going to go with another PV type. Of course, if you throw in mods, as for what might be next, the options increase a lot, from juice-feeders to HV mods to variable-voltage mods.

Thanks for the rec on the gotvapes DC cartos! I might try them, as SmokTech ones I have get fairly boggy quick, much like an SLB carto. great the first time around, but I found the filler too dense.

 

[PattyR]

I've tried the SmokTech cartos, Kurt, and I much prefer the Diamond Duals. GotVapes has come out with a new device called the 'Sapphire' that interests me. I've got one coming, but probably won't get it until tomorrow. Check it out at their site. It sure looks promising!

You bring up a good point, Patty, and that is my response assumed Mellow was not going to go with another PV type. Of course, if you throw in mods, as for what might be next, the options increase a lot, from juice-feeders to HV mods to variable-voltage mods.

Thanks for the rec on the gotvapes DC cartos! I might try them, as SmokTech ones I have get fairly boggy quick, much like an SLB carto. great the first time around, but I found the filler too dense.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

There are, indeed, many choices ... and more being added almost daily. There are three factors involved in this issue: the atomizer (either as a separate component or as part of a cartomizer), the watts (i.e., battery voltage interacting with atomizer resistance to produce power), and how juice is fed to the atomizer.

Feeding the Juice:

• From what I've read, bottom-fed juice feeders (the REO is one, very good, example) may do this the best, but they (at least the good ones) tend to be expensive ($125+).

• I've never tried the large tanks (e.g., MAP): many vapers rave about them, but they seem complicated and look ungainly to me. I have been unimpressed by the smaller tanks (e.g., eGo-T and Lea), although, again, they have their admirers.

• For the better part of two years, I did direct dripping on the atty coil, which rivals the bottom feeders in effectiveness and is inexpensive, but requires more frequent effort.

• At least for now, I dwell in the land of cartomizers, which, in the main, are far superior to those of the past. The good ones include the Boge, Smok Tech Dual Coil* (including the new eGo-sized version), and CE2 that Kurt mentioned, as well as IkenVape's 510 cartos, the Kr8's from Bloog (Maxx Fusion) and Smokeless Image (VOLT), Echo and Echo-e, and 801 cartos (Boge, EastMall, and IkenVape). [Also the Leo and Go-Go, but they're not compatible with anything else, so we won't get into those.] Lots of choices, eh?

* I've not yet tried Patty's Diamond Duals. Based on her comments here, add them to the list.
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Atomizer: The choices used to be limited and straightforward – 510 (and its cousin 306), 801, or 901 ... and in cartomizers – Kr8 (that E9 stuff you can buy in malls doesn't count). Now there are new ones (e.g., the previously mentioned Leo and Go-Go) and all kinds of variations within the old, especially within 510. The threading remains the same within each model number, but (to me at least) what primarily distinguishes one atomizer from another is the feel of the vape. For example, the vape from Smok Tech Dual Coil, Boge, and Echo-e cartomizers (all with 510 connections) feels different ... and the vape from any of the 801's feels really different from them. [FYI: I happen to love the 801 ... although that dual coil is giving it a run for its money.]

Watts (i.e., the power or intensity of the vape): User control of this used to be entirely with the battery voltage: 3.2V (e.g., 510 and eGo), 3.7V (e.g., Kr8 batt, some fat batts, and mods), 5V, or 6V ... and now variable voltage. Then there was a choice in atomizer/cartomizer resistance, but limited to either standard or "LR" (usually 1.5Ω) or "HV" (i.e., high-resistance for use on 6V mods). Now there are seemingly endless choices, especially with 510 atomizers and cartomizers. Once you find one or more attys/cartos you like, experiment to see which of the available resistance levels for them you like best on your batteries. Check out this article for more information on atty/carto resistance and this volts/ohms/watts/amps stuff. [For example, you do not want to use 2.0 ohms or less on a 5+V battery.]