True Mastery of the Genesis Atomizer

[Tbev]

It's a common misconception that cotton is a great wicking material. It's not! Cotton does expand when it's saturated with juice, it's true. But for capillary action, cotton does not vertically wick as well as mesh. Don't believe it? Roll up a mesh wick and a cotton wick, hold them side by side with the end in a cup of juice. See which becomes wet at the top faster. The mesh will. The mesh won't hold as much juice as the cotton, but the capillary action is faster. I use cotton in drippers, where the wick is horizontal, and is fed from above; but I'll never use cotton in a bottom fed device, such as a genisis.

Meh...
I am happier with cotton over mesh BC the cotton, holding more juice will work for harder longer drags, then it may take a while longer to rewet but that's going on between hits, and it holds more juice so you have way less chance, and you have to work harder, to get a dry hit. Fmesh! My 2 cents..

 

[jhelliwell]

Is yours an authentic or a clone? I feel like I'm missing out with the clone, because the "delrin" insulators don't seem to be delrin. They stick to the mesh really bad when I change builds.

It's authentic, and the real insulators are very heat resistant. You could order spare real ones from atmomixani.gr!

 

[jhelliwell]

Cotton wicks just fine. If your cotton isn't wicking well enough vertically, then simply follow this link for advice as to how to use cotton in a genny

 

[PaulBHC]

I pull off about 2" x 1/2" piece and twist it tight enough to thread through a 5/64" coil into the tank. It slides easily in the coil. Looks skinny in the tank and just right in the coil once wet. Slight tilt is all I need to keep it wet while vaping.

 

[jhelliwell]

Or U-wick the cotton. I've never seen a setup wick so well. No tipping required and the cotton was always soaking!

 

[iamAuz]

i have primarily used RDAs for their ease of setup, quick wick change, quick to fill with some juice and I like the look of RDAs. But..... I have been using my Kraken genesis for the past week and i have been really enjoying the flavor. im happy that i finally was able to enjoy it, i have had the kraken since January but just havent used it much. now i am grabbin it often and enjoyin the hell outta it! my setup is pretty simple, just the good ole straight forward wick and coil, nothing crazy....

400 mesh wick
28g kanthal 4 wraps
1.1ohm resistance

i used a piece of mesh probably 2" x 3" in size. gave it a quick oxidize to stiffen it up a bit, then got a paper clip that i have straightened out and rolled my mesh up around that, did my main oxidize and got it all good and ready for action, rolled it up and got it nice and tightt so it would fit in the wick hole, put a slant cut on the bottom of the wick that would be in the juice, wrapped my coil around the mesh while the paper clip was still in it to give it the hollow core. it wicks great and taste awesome. no hot spots, no problems at all. i am using a 18mg RY4 tobacco for my juice and it really does taste great in the genesis. happy!

i am goin to be purchasing another genesis soon, hopefully. i am gonna get the 360 by Gille, i like the looks and also it has a crazy reduced chamber. i really want a SAT 22 but who doesnt right? i will get a SAT 22 one day.... one day. in the mean time the 360 looks kinda like the SAT 22...kinda.... i really love the look of the SAT, its so awesome. i want it so bad!

 

[PaulBHC]

Ordered two AGA T2 on clearance sale from 101vape.

 

[fjgotgame24]

For you guys who have setups @ under .6 ohms, does the tank not get ridiculously hot? I was getting great flavor at .5 but the tank and drip tip were on fire within a few puffs, had to bring it back up to .8 but now the flavor has dropped. Actually flavor is solid it's just at the end of each hit it it tastes super dry @ .8 ohms. Rope and 200 mesh sleeve, any tips?

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[alkaiser]

500 mesh solid rolled super tightly with the diameter of the wick slightly smaller than the wick hole. no need to tilt and will wick until the tank is empty if continuously fired

as long as your mesh is wicking well, it won't be super dry at the end of hits. i can take 10 second hits and no problems at all. in fact, with an extra wick hole open, it can overwick if you tilt it more than 80 degrees.

 

[Etherz]

For you guys who have setups @ under .6 ohms, does the tank not get ridiculously hot? I was getting great flavor at .5 but the tank and drip tip were on fire within a few puffs, had to bring it back up to .8 but now the flavor has dropped. Actually flavor is solid it's just at the end of each hit it it tastes super dry @ .8 ohms. Rope and 200 mesh sleeve, any tips?

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I use a derlin drip tip to manage the heat. I run dual coil 28ga on my kraken at 0.4 ohms. I use 500 ss mesh sleeve with a rope core.



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[fjgotgame24]

Ok so I noticed when I go lower in ohms, I get a better vape, but like I said in my last post the tank and drip tip gets too hot. However what I was wondering was why the heat causes me too get better flavor. Is it because it's causing better wicking? Or is it something else? Also another thing I noticed is that on my initial builds, it will usually start off with a promising vape, one that's tasty and not dry. Halfway through the tank though it seems to lose its jazz and starts tasting kind of bland and dry again. Vapor is still there and seems to be wicking fine as I usually end up chain vaping with no problems. So now I'm just confused, good wicking, no hot spots yet no flavor.

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[Tbev]

I use a derlin drip tip to manage the heat. I run dual coil 28ga on my kraken at 0.4 ohms. I use 500 ss mesh sleeve with a rope core.



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Another reason I love the pulse genny, unlike the kraken, steam turbine, etc. There's not a bunch of extra metal around the tank to heat up and stay hot. I also run cotton so I don't have the wick absorbing heat as well.

My cap gets hot but cools pretty fast, would cool faster wo the reducer prolly, but no biggie, sometimes I use a hybrid tip w delrin inside/bottom and ss outside, always stays cool.

 

[Etherz]

Ok so I noticed when I go lower in ohms, I get a better vape, but like I said in my last post the tank and drip tip gets too hot. However what I was wondering was why the heat causes me too get better flavor. Is it because it's causing better wicking? Or is it something else? Also another thing I noticed is that on my initial builds, it will usually start off with a promising vape, one that's tasty and not dry. Halfway through the tank though it seems to lose its jazz and starts tasting kind of bland and dry again. Vapor is still there and seems to be wicking fine as I usually end up chain vaping with no problems. So now I'm just confused, good wicking, no hot spots yet no flavor.

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Try 500 mesh or eco wool as a sleeve. If it tastes dry it's because it is dry and it's not wicking enough juice.

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[Etherz]

Another reason I love the pulse genny, unlike the kraken, steam turbine, etc. There's not a bunch of extra metal around the tank to heat up and stay hot. I also run cotton so I don't have the wick absorbing heat as well.

My cap gets hot but cools pretty fast, would cool faster wo the reducer prolly, but no biggie, sometimes I use a hybrid tip w delrin inside/bottom and ss outside, always stays cool.

Yeah I just bought a pulse off of the classifieds! I wanted to try the reduced chamber design.
unfortunately I never got good results with cotton.

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[fjgotgame24]

Try 500 mesh or eco wool as a sleeve. If it tastes dry it's because it is dry and it's not wicking enough juice.

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I tried 500 almost solid wick and now I'm using 200 hollow with 500 inside that. If I higher my resistance, you think that will do anything or will that add too the slow wicking.

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[Etherz]

A higher resistance should help the wick catch up and avoid dry hits. Are your coils touching? I space mine out because I wrap directly on the wick with the wick already on the Kraken.

When in doubt genny tilt

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[fjgotgame24]

I wrap it like you do with the wick in wick hole. No ho spots and I just upped my wraps from 4 to 5, getting a cooler vape but the flavor is still rather dry. I think it has something to do with the mesh, I currently have 325 hollow, with 500 inside the hollow. Everyone says different things about which grade mesh and whether it should be hollow or solid. I'm using a max vg custard and if each genny build didn't take so long I'd try every possible combo of solid, hollow, and grades of mesh but after like 20 failed attempts it gets a bit frustrating. I've done rope with mesh sleeve as well, still dry.

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[alkaiser]

I wrap it like you do with the wick in wick hole. No ho spots and I just upped my wraps from 4 to 5, getting a cooler vape but the flavor is still rather dry. I think it has something to do with the mesh, I currently have 325 hollow, with 500 inside the hollow. Everyone says different things about which grade mesh and whether it should be hollow or solid. I'm using a max vg custard and if each genny build didn't take so long I'd try every possible combo of solid, hollow, and grades of mesh but after like 20 failed attempts it gets a bit frustrating. I've done rope with mesh sleeve as well, still dry.

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try the petar k method. no need to pre oxidize the wick and builds take 5 minutes. in fact, with this method, you can just switch out the wick without having to rebuild.

i noticed when you build subohm with a reduced chamber genny, the vape is very concentrated and warm/hot. this will kill the tastebuds on your tongue fast. that could explain the loss of flavor as you vape more. i find myself having to vape something else/drink something/eat something to get the taste back.

 

[fjgotgame24]

Alright will try that method. Here I have 200 hollow wick, using much less mesh than usual, maybe only 1.5, 2 cm. I usually use around 30, 35mm. Its noticeably better, but still a bit dry, and once again, first few vapes start off amazing and then flavor drops about half way in which seems like the opposite as most people claim flavor intensifies with time.

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[fjgotgame24]

Also I notice people mention of loosely making the wick, I tend to roll mine pretty tight even though it's hollow, you think that's much of an issue?

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