TWO Years into Vapping AND.....

[mylose64]

I think I'm just being defensive and coming off aggressive because I never want to go back to cigarettes and the OP is dampening my hope lol


but yeah, it's all good Levitas, I understand. Like starrynight said, we have valid points.

Cheers.

 

[mylose64]

The variable volt Darwin from Evolve, sold by nhaler.com.

wow... that's cool!

 

[Levitas]

I think I'm just being defensive and coming off aggressive because I never want to go back to cigarettes and the OP is dampening my hope lol


but yeah, it's all good Levitas, I understand. Like starrynight said, we have valid points.

Cheers.

Agreed!

 

[Ande]

I don't know why you can't see that the combination of vaping and smoking is completely useless. What's the point? all you are is making a bad habit worse, an addiction stronger and costing yourself money.

Last time I checked, I could be wrong, but E-cigarretes were used by people who wanted to switch to a better alternative, avoid all the bad stuff from regular cigarettes, save money and respect the health of others around them.

Sorry, the combination of vaping and smoking is NOT useless.

A 2 pack a day smoker who vapes instead of the second pack, reducing his/her smoking to 1 pack a day is making substantial reductions to his/her health risks. That's what harm reduction is. It's not a magic solution, just a better alternative. vaping some and smoking some may not be perfect, but it is MUCH better than not vaping and smoking more.

As I see it, your argument is that it would be better to only vape, and not smoke?

Well, yeah. Not everybody succeeds at this, though. And I'm not comfortable telling them that, since they aren't completely successful, their efforts are "useless." I just think that's not cool. The OP is using the vaping as a cig alternative some of the time, and that's better than none of the time. By using it when he can't smoke, which I presume includes when his smoking would have ill-effects on others he's also being respectful of their health.

Sure, I think he should drop the cigs altogether. ;-) But then, how many people thought that I should drop the cigs altogether in the last 20 years? Lots, I can assure you. And I wasn't able to.

Hell, vaping isn't risk free. Maybe I should stop vaping? Maybe YOU should stop vaping. But we don't.

Best,
Ande

 

[mylose64]

Sorry, the combination of vaping and smoking is NOT useless.

oh no you didn't!!

 

[Heartisan]

I think that most people combine analogs and ecigs at the beginning. That's something that gets glossed over by all the "I quit smoking on my First day with an ecig" posts. Some people never give them up completely. It took me trying several mods to give up the last one or two a day... (thank god for VV!)

I feel that any use of an ecig instead of a cigarette is good. Beyond that - I'm not comfortable telling another smoker, ex or not, how they should handle their habit. We have all faced the hated of the non-smoking for too long for that. We all know what will eventually happen if we return to smoking.

For me - it's been more than ten months since my last analog. The smell of them turns my stomach now. I can't even spend time with my smoking friends in close quarters. Although I've got them using Ego's for at least half of the day now!!

 

[mjones]

I know how he feels, I've been vaping for 3 years. In the beginning vaping is new and cool, but after three years of charging, dry burning, tweaking ur "ecig rig" the new does wear off. I sometimes will fall off the wagon, and go on a binge and blow out a pack for old times sake.

I went 2 years without a cigarette, I don't feel guilty that I picked up the cigs again here and there, but I would be in a much worse mell of a hess, without my ecig. I really love that with the ecig, I dont bug out if I dont have a pack of cigs. I don't know if I will ever finally quit, but I'll never give up on my ecig either.

I'm not sayin one way is right or wrong, but I can relate to him. Its like an endurance race, you have to pace yourself so you don't burn out. I am very glad I found the ecig, and will prlly vape till I can't, when life is coasting smooth for me, I can vape away, but when life kicks you in the groin sometimes, a cigarette can lessen the blow for me at times.

 

[mike20]

I don't post much but this is a great thread.
Been at it for a year and still smoke--but less--feeling guilty because I haven't quit.
Helps to see some members with 2009 join dates still struggle--I'm not alone--guilt kind of goes away.
Original poster mentioned about the mood stuff that analogs help with. I can vape 48 mg and still need something that the nicotine just doesn't address, so thanks for the note.
Ecigs have been a pain trying to simplify battery charge, filling, purchasing [especially when the suppliers misrepresent] but I'm getting there. And oh yeah an analog is so simple and consistent.

I'm a nicotine addict and probably addicted to other things in analogs.
I was addicted to something else too but that's been taken care of.
The one thing I do know is that addicts can't stand the "You ought to"s from someone else.
We all know way deep inside what's right and wrong.

 

[atomizer mizer]

I am not a doctor but I would guess that you have probably added 3 years to your life. Congratulations

I know how he feels, I've been vaping for 3 years. In the beginning vaping is new and cool, but after three years of charging, dry burning, tweaking ur "ecig rig" the new does wear off. I sometimes will fall off the wagon, and go on a binge and blow out a pack for old times sake.

I went 2 years without a cigarette, I don't feel guilty that I picked up the cigs again here and there, but I would be in a much worse mell of a hess, without my ecig. I really love that with the ecig, I dont bug out if I dont have a pack of cigs. I don't know if I will ever finally quit, but I'll never give up on my ecig either.

I'm not sayin one way is right or wrong, but I can relate to him. Its like an endurance race, you have to pace yourself so you don't burn out. I am very glad I found the ecig, and will prlly vape till I can't, when life is coasting smooth for me, I can vape away, but when life kicks you in the groin sometimes, a cigarette can lessen the blow for me at times.

 

[wv2win]

I don't post much but this is a great thread.
Been at it for a year and still smoke--but less--feeling guilty because I haven't quit.
Helps to see some members with 2009 join dates still struggle--I'm not alone--guilt kind of goes away.
Original poster mentioned about the mood stuff that analogs help with. I can vape 48 mg and still need something that the nicotine just doesn't address, so thanks for the note.
Ecigs have been a pain trying to simplify battery charge, filling, purchasing [especially when the suppliers misrepresent] but I'm getting there. And oh yeah an analog is so simple and consistent.

I'm a nicotine addict and probably addicted to other things in analogs.
I was addicted to something else too but that's been taken care of.
The one thing I do know is that addicts can't stand the "You ought to"s from someone else.
We all know way deep inside what's right and wrong.

When you find a PV that comes closer to simulating the "inhaled feel" of an analog, it does get a bit easier.

 

[uba egar320]

There is no way I'll ever go back. Period. Failure is not an option on this issue. Worse case scenario, I'd get some nic gum.

 

[mjones]

I am not a doctor but I would guess that you have probably added 3 years to your life. Congratulations

HAHA thanks, yeah an additional 3 years to sit in my rocking chair one day, and tell the kids to get off my lawn, will be awesome.

 

[mohawkx]

HAHA thanks, yeah an additional 3 years to sit in my rocking chair one day, and tell the kids to get off my lawn, will be awesome.

I can tell you first hand that the older you get the more you cling to life. For me and most seniors, every sunrise is a blessing.

 

[Katoo]

One of the things I love the most is that if I have an occasional lapse and smoke a cigarette, or a pack of cigarettes, or even a binge for a week or so, I can go straight back to vaping with no pain or crazies. I'm no longer, as they say, "one cigarette away from a pack a day".

 

[uba egar320]

For me, the lower my nicotine gets with the ecigs, I find that my habit was more a hand to mouth issue. I think as long as I am in motion, and keeping my hands busy the less I think about it. Soon I hope to be off of nicotine all together.

 

[txtumbleweed]

HAHA thanks, yeah an additional 3 years to sit in my rocking chair one day, and tell the kids to get off my lawn, will be awesome.

It is the ten years you have to pack around an oxygen bottle prior to that and laying in bed drowning in your saliva ya gotta worry about!

 

[skex]

Two years and not a single cigarette. I didn't quit analogs on day one but within a month of starting I was weened particularly after trying one just to see and it tasting like .....

At one point after quitting for about 6 months my wife and I went to a local bar that allows smoking and when walked out I reeked of smoke and I asked her if I used to smell like this when I smoked when she said yes I apologized for putting her through that.

I do think that the e-cig is only a part of the battle. You have to really want to quit the smoking you have to want it bad because while the e-cig can help its not exactly the same thing. There are too many other chemicals in cigarettes (not to mention all the CO2) it's also a hell of a lot of work compared to a cigarette. You have to plan ahead you have to make sure you have plenty of supplies and back ups.

But in the end is it worth it? I think so. Hell it'll probably kill me just like the smokes would have but at least I won't stink.

To the OP I say this, exercise some willpower and drop the cancer sticks, Right now you're just rationalizing and believe me I know we smokers are good at that. I'm not going to give you this feel good nonsense of "what ever works for you" that's bull...., While in the long run we don't know that vaping is perfectly safe we know damned well that smoking most certainly isn't.

You're just making excuses right now. "Oh woe is me the damned e-cig wasn't good enough to make me quit". no it isn't and never will be. It's an aid, it's a crutch, it's just something to help you limp along to your goal. and that's ok that's what crutches are for. But you still have to pull yourself along. You have to make the decision. You have to decide to quit come hell or high water. That doesn't mean to beat yourself to death every time you have a relapse but it also doesn't mean that you just give yourself a pass for being a failure either.

Figure out your triggers see what circumstances make you want a smoke rather than a vape. If possible completely avoid those situations. If you can't then you need to be especially diligent going into them.

Quitting cigarettes isn't easy. If it were no one would smoke. We can sit around all day talking about how "oh I just like smoking" bull.... it's a nasty smelly gross habit with exactly one redeeming quality. That it delivers the drug we crave. We know it has adverse health affects we've seen the results, we've seen the nasty blackened lungs the chronic hacking cough the oxygen bottles. We know that it's a withering wasting death. It kills your sex drive it causes impotence and completely obliterates anything resembling stamina. So obviously so many people continue despite all it's negative effects it's a hell of a monkey to have on your back.

Make sure you have plenty of vaping supplies then go buy a months worth of groceries. Finish your last pack then avoid any situation where you might be tempted to buy a new pack. Pay at the pump don't even walk into a store sells cigarettes avoid any friends who are smokers.

But it's still an exercise in rationalization every time you light up. You have be aware of it and be on guard for it.

If you do fall off the wagon and have a cig don't beat yourself up too much but for the love of life don't have another, The first one will always taste like crap after quitting for a while, but the second won't be as bad and by the 3rd your taste buds are beat up enough that it's like you never quit. So just don't do it.

Take responsibility for your choices. Recognize your rationalizations for what they are and stop caving to them.

No fake sympathy here, I know it's hard but if my weak-willed self can do it anyone should be able to.

 

[wdave]

One of the things I love the most is that if I have an occasional lapse and smoke a cigarette, or a pack of cigarettes, or even a binge for a week or so, I can go straight back to vaping with no pain or crazies. I'm no longer, as they say, "one cigarette away from a pack a day".

Right on.

Dave

 

[wdave]

I know how he feels, I've been vaping for 3 years. In the beginning vaping is new and cool, but after three years of charging, dry burning, tweaking ur "ecig rig" the new does wear off. I sometimes will fall off the wagon, and go on a binge and blow out a pack for old times sake.

I went 2 years without a cigarette, I don't feel guilty that I picked up the cigs again here and there, but I would be in a much worse mell of a hess, without my ecig. I really love that with the ecig, I dont bug out if I dont have a pack of cigs. I don't know if I will ever finally quit, but I'll never give up on my ecig either.

I'm not sayin one way is right or wrong, but I can relate to him. Its like an endurance race, you have to pace yourself so you don't burn out. I am very glad I found the ecig, and will prlly vape till I can't, when life is coasting smooth for me, I can vape away, but when life kicks you in the groin sometimes, a cigarette can lessen the blow for me at times.

Smokers long ago stopped arguing that they smoke because of the taste of the tobacco. It wasn't an "acceptable" excuse. After vaping for over a year, I believe the smoking for me is about having a nicotine addiction AND that I LOVE THE TASTE OF TOBACCO!

Though e-cigs easily kill the nic craving. They still don't replace tobacco. Whether or not you end up vaping and smoking will depend on how much you crave the taste of tobacco. You won't find out till after you have vaped for a while.

As far as health improvments, it's easy to get before and after tests from a doctor so you are speaking from facts concerning any significant improvements to your health.

Dave

 

[DC2]

One of the things I love the most is that if I have an occasional lapse and smoke a cigarette, or a pack of cigarettes, or even a binge for a week or so, I can go straight back to vaping with no pain or crazies. I'm no longer, as they say, "one cigarette away from a pack a day".

Exactly.


I had to buy a pack awhile back, when I was without my vaping equipment for a day.
I smoked almost half the pack, but as soon as I got back to my vaping equipment I trashed the rest.

And for most of the time I was smoking those cigarettes, I was wishing I had my Chuck instead.