TWO Years into Vapping AND.....

[malyden]

It's unfortunate that some people do not understand that what works for one does not always work for someone else. That being said there are still many people who vape and smoke - I am one of them. I do not smoke as much as I use to and maybe some day I will quite smoking all together but who knows. For some vaping alone just doesn't cut it.
For me I don't care for the taste of analogs (never have) but for some reason my mind/body says I need them and I know it's not just about the nicotine.
I applaud all those who have managed to quite using analogs completely but I expect especially from this group not to be judged because I have been unable to.
Sorry for the rant having a rough day

 

[Rar]

You are so right Malyden - it's not just about the nicotine! I still crave the analogs and everyday is difficult for me.

 

[JWebb]

Congratulations on the 1/1/2 years!

 

[Tracker II]

To each his own I say. Aren't ecigs recognized as alternatives to smoking rather that smoking cessation devices? Granted that may be for regulatory purposes, but still. So if one person wishes to stop smoking and permanently use ecigs as alternatives, that's great. If another person wishes to alternate back and forth on a daily or hourly basis, that's fine with me as it's none of my business.

While I refuse to judge, I would still like to encourage everyone to use ecigs as an alternative as much as possible as I feel that it's a "less unhealthy" way to go. I was in the hospital recently due to a car crash and the guy across the hall from me was desperately coughing and gasping for air. It literally sounded like his lungs and bronchial system was 90% full of thick maple syrup ... just horrific to listen to. The nurse said he was a lifelong smoker. That alone makes me reach for a vape rather than a smoke. But that's just me and, like I said earlier, to each his own as it's his or her own life.

 

[Cil]

As I said, it doesn't bother me if people want to do both it's up to them.

What I would like to know is if a cigarette feels odd, kinda small and light and a little fragile, sort of the opposite of what we experienced when we first took up vaping.

 

[jtpjc]

This thread smells of denial and false justification.

I don't understand what you mean Kraylen. I genuinely don't. Good or bad, would you please explain?

 

[kraylen]

Nothing subliminal about the statement, it's pretty straight and generalized.

 

[Levitas]

I don't understand what you mean Kraylen. I genuinely don't. Good or bad, would you please explain?

I think the person meant people are in denile of their addiction to nicotine or to cigarettes and feel the need to justify theirselves on why they vape or why they smoke. That is in turn, a pretty bold judgement as I assume the author of the comment knows very little to nothing about most if not everyone posting here. But that's neither here nor there.

I personally quit smoking completely day one, good for me. My mother still smokes but drammatically cut down because of vaping (2PAD to Half PAD, I'm very proud of her) Fact is, nicotine is the drug most of us are after. If you can live with the risk of smoking (as most of us have down before for many years) then by all means, go for the gold and enjoy yourself. I'd say there's nothing wrong with making a decision such as smoking, if you enjoy it.

Here's a cheap analogy I used to recite to myself: I enjoy smoking, if I had a choice to be rich and live to 30 or be in miserable pain and live to 60, I'd choose the latter. Of course, that in itself was my justification or one of them to continue smoking, I was just enjoying myself and that was that.

No doubt I became addicted, still am addicted to nicotine but I can live with that. What I cannot live with are the risks now and that's my personal choice. I have other obligations and smoking cannot interfere. This doesn't mean I don't think of a cigarette now and again (though the smell does make me queezy) because I do. Though nothing will ever replace the effects of a cigarette, vaping satisfies me enough and even gives me pleasure to meet my new obligations, which ultimately is, staying alive.

To each their own! Respect and understanding!

 

[DC2]

Nothing subliminal about the statement, it's pretty straight and generalized.

I don't know what you meant either.

 

[JWebb]

Damulta:

Good posting damulta. I think a lot of us, have gone through the various stages from all vaping, to sneaking an analog once in a while, going back to analogs or stopping them altogether. To each his own, everyone know the dangers of analogs or they wouldn't have tried vaping or maybe the cost is the driver for others. Either way this is not Alchoholics Anonymous, and no one has to feel bad about their behaviour. We are not here to judge, just try to understand and help others when we can. It is not an issue of denial or justifications, it is a fact of life and the human condition.

 

[mohawkx]

Smoking is actually two addictions. One is the physical addiction to nicotine the other is the psychological addiction the "hand to mouth" gratification. Hand to Mouth is no different that when you give a cranky baby a pacifier to suck on to calm him down nor is it any different that someone who constantly eats their way to obesity. In Theory, Vaping should satisfy both addictions. For some nothing works, not even cigarettes to satisfy their constant craving and they are on a track to an ever escalating spiral. With willpower and fortitude I believe anybody can kick the physical addiction to nicotine but the psychological addiction of Hand to mouth in all probability is much harder if not impossible. After all is said and done though,The 5 inches between your ears is the most powerful weapon you have in exercising self control.

 

[wdave]

You are so right Malyden - it's not just about the nicotine! I still crave the analogs and everyday is difficult for me.

YUP...I learned something myself. I love the taste of tobacco! I always thought it was just an excuse, but it isn't. I really love tobacco!

FYI I heard of this juice that only uses real tobacco extract. Nice to know it's out there.

Dave

 

[Levitas]

FYI I heard of this juice that only uses real tobacco extract. Nice to know it's out there.

Dave

Yeah, but you might be surprised to find out that it will not replicate a cigarette taste. No amount of juice you try will ever compare to an actual cigarette for the cigarette taste. You might still like it though and I wish you the best of luck on your endeavor.

 

[jerry2111]

I stopped smoking for a few months, got a cold and vapping made me cough. I tried my wifes cig and it was better, so now I'm doing both, vape at work and half and half at home. but when I'm on ecf I feel guilty about smoking so I vape. I don't keep track of how many cigs I smoke in a day but I think its less than half a pack. Knowing that vapping is so much better for me I keep telling myself that tomorrow, but it no go so far.

 

[ukeman]

there it is... most (of us here) are psyched about putting the analogs away... but i have always felt one has to have a fascination with the whole "vape thing" to really get into it, moreso than just not smoking.

i.e. DM (OP) jumped in with both feet and also shared his experience and knowledge with everyone...
Yet that doesn't mean everyone is going to have an affinity with vaping...

You know?
Some of "us" are pushed along by a desire to not smoke (cough cough)... and i can understand if they don't want to research and explore every PV and juice that comes down the pike.

All in all, vaping is fun imo, I'm gung ho... but some just dabble and some are just satisfied to keep it simple.
I couldn't care less if you smoke and vape and like DM did, I love giving advice to newbs, and learning from the vets.

but when I'm on ecf I feel guilty about smoking so I vape. I don't keep track of how many cigs I smoke in a day but I think its less than half a pack. Knowing that vapping is so much better for me I keep telling myself that tomorrow, but it no go so far.

 

[VapingRulz]

I'm just putting this out there for any newbies who may read this thread and get discouraged. I was one of the lucky ones who quit immediately when I had my first vape. I'm two days shy of my 18-month mark and I have no desire to smoke a cigarette. Note that I was smoking at least 1-1.5 PAD for 37+ years, so I was a hardcore smoker. I loved smoking. Now I love vaping instead. You can do it, too.

 

[Kent C]

Damulta and I (and dave) started in the same month in 2009. Here's a post from his first thread:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...g-family-over-new-way-smoking.html#post369125

Frankly, a person is going to do what they do and unless it harms others I have no view on it one way or another. I'm a second hand smoke denier - I actually read the studies unlike Carol Browner.

I didn't start vaping to stop smoking, but that was the outcome. I could easily smoke a cigarette today but I don't crave it. If there were no ecigarettes, I'd smoke.

mohawkx: "Smoking is actually two addictions. One is the physical addiction to nicotine the other is the psychological addiction the "hand to mouth" gratification."

Take the vapor out of ecigs and see how long you do with just the nicotine and hand to mouth. If patches put off vapor, I think they'd work. The 'hand to mouth' is simply method of getting the smoke or vapor. It may have meant something for Freud, though.

 

[Sun State]

I think smoking seemed like such an old friend. Nothing else has stayed in my life remotely as long or has seen me through nearly so much. So I think I miss the memories I've connected it to. I hope if I can vape long enough it will feel that way just as much and takes my old friend's place. (If I can actually keep all my gear working).

I puzzled over that post about denial and justification but I didn't get it. It didn't seem very nice, though. Maybe I'm not allowed to say that?

DM, I'm glad you started this thread. It's helped me think it through more.

 

[KDK]

It really dosn't matter if you totally stop smoking or not. Any amount of cigarettes you don't smoke and replace with e-cigs is going to be better for you. So, we all do what we can, and it's all to the good, right? It doesn't have to be an either or all situation. Ive' been smoke free for 1 year yesterday, but I would still be happy if I had just reduced my consumption of cigs by half.

 

[wdave]

Damulta and I (and dave) started in the same month in 2009. Here's a post from his first thread:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...g-family-over-new-way-smoking.html#post369125

Frankly, a person is going to do what they do and unless it harms others I have no view on it one way or another. I'm a second hand smoke denier - I actually read the studies unlike Carol Browner.

I didn't start vaping to stop smoking, but that was the outcome. I could easily smoke a cigarette today but I don't crave it. If there were no ecigarettes, I'd smoke.



Take the vapor out of ecigs and see how long you do with just the nicotine and hand to mouth. If patches put off vapor, I think they'd work. The 'hand to mouth' is simply method of getting the smoke or vapor. It may have meant something for Freud, though.

I hope you aren't holding me accountable for the things I say

And Freud would have somehow connected vaping to sex. Hell maybe it is all about sex. The eGo-T makes me feel sexy.

Dave