Hmmm, sounds like it might get PIF'd. Somehow, I did not know that before I ordered it.
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I've had mine a few days, ordered from the UK. I like it a lot, the package is excellent - the heavy threaded 510 base is nearly worth the price of the whole package on its own! The big downside in my view is that the posts are constantly cutting my wires. I went down as far as 22G Titanium and it still got cut off. I replaced the grub screws with different ones I bought in a pack from fasttech, and same deal. Maybe I'm just over-tightening, I don't know - but when I move the coil leg beyond the post and the coil itself still moves, I figure it needs more tightening.
But I'll get to grips with that, maybe do some Dremeling on the screws. The rest is great. It even supports a basic form of top fill, albeit only for a couple of ml of juice; the tank screws down onto the base so you can safely unscrew the top of the tank without the tank coming loose, and then fill to the top of the roof of the deck. (Note, be very sure your tank is empty before doing this, else all your juice will leak onto the deck!)
Two sizes of tank, 2.5ml and 5ml, and I've used both and like both. I'm using the 5ml currently, but below pics are of the 2.5ml. I'm yet to try the Stainless tanks, I always prefer transparency. Them being polycarb or PMMA or whatever they are is no problem for me - I have loads of those and I've yet to ever crack one with any of my juice.
Highly recommended. The package just reeks of quality, and honestly I could not tell this was a clone except for a) the screws - as always with clones! and b) the price I paid.
(Which in other ways is a downside because it encourages fraud, but there you go.)
But I'll get to grips with that, maybe do some Dremeling on the screws. The rest is great. It even supports a basic form of top fill, albeit only for a couple of ml of juice; the tank screws down onto the base so you can safely unscrew the top of the tank without the tank coming loose, and then fill to the top of the roof of the deck. (Note, be very sure your tank is empty before doing this, else all your juice will leak onto the deck!)
Two sizes of tank, 2.5ml and 5ml, and I've used both and like both. I'm using the 5ml currently, but below pics are of the 2.5ml. I'm yet to try the Stainless tanks, I always prefer transparency. Them being polycarb or PMMA or whatever they are is no problem for me - I have loads of those and I've yet to ever crack one with any of my juice.
Highly recommended. The package just reeks of quality, and honestly I could not tell this was a clone except for a) the screws - as always with clones! and b) the price I paid.
(Which in other ways is a downside because it encourages fraud, but there you go.)
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One further thing to add: The first time I filled it, I got major leaking. Half a tank leaked out of the airhole.
Two possible causes:
The vape is very good, with a good range of airflow. I often have the AFC up to 75% closed which s till provides enough for me. So I would think it provides a good range from fully closed to fully open to satisfy most airflow requirements.
Two possible causes:
- I failed to properly tighten the top cap and tank section. I think this is the most likely cause
- The chimney part presses down onto the top of the deck enclosure; it does not screw down
- Therefore unless the top cap/tank section is firmly tightened, there can be a gap between chimney and deck enclosure, into which juice can pour
- Therefore be very sure to thoroughly tighten the tank when putting it together. No o-rings should be visible.
- The deck is similar to the Taifun GT2 in that the only thing stopping juice entering the deck is the wick
- I thought I had fully filled the gaps with cotton, but after the leaking incident I turned the outer ring of the deck (as you probably know, there are two pieces that fit over the deck, an inner and outer ring), such as to slightly compress the wick (Rayon) between the inner and outer ring
- This ensured the gap was fully closed, and the slight compression has not hurt wicking.
- I recommend doing this to ensure there is a little pressure either side of the wick to keep the gaps completely filled with wick.
- (Note I am using the two wide gaps with a straight-through wick, rather than the "in and out again" other wicking holes, which looks odd to me - reminiscent of the Rose wicking method, which I disliked.)
The vape is very good, with a good range of airflow. I often have the AFC up to 75% closed which s till provides enough for me. So I would think it provides a good range from fully closed to fully open to satisfy most airflow requirements.
Thank-you! I think I just need to get it and tinker. When i do find a good topper, I end up getting more for the convenience. I just ordered my 3rd Rose V2.
Anyway, thanks!
Edit: I'm going to cut/paste to a file on my desktop. Thank-you very much
Anyway, thanks!
Edit: I'm going to cut/paste to a file on my desktop. Thank-you very much
@TheBloke yours is logoed! First I've seen one. Mine from FT is not. Hmm, scary for someone looking for an authentic and getting ripped off.
I would Dremel the post holes themselves. Sounds like its not your screws. I've had to do that on a couple of attys, most recently both my Aromamizer decks. My UTA clones are fine.
I would Dremel the post holes themselves. Sounds like its not your screws. I've had to do that on a couple of attys, most recently both my Aromamizer decks. My UTA clones are fine.
Oh really? I am very new to Ubertoot clones - in fact, until a few days ago I had never heard of it! I didn't realise there were lots of clones.
I found it quite by chance, browsing a UK vape vendor. It looked good and I googled and watched Todd's complimentary review of the authentic, so thought I'd take a punt.
Here's where I bought mine, unfortunately currently showing sold out: Ubertoot UTA V2 – ProVapes
They list the manufacturer as Copper Vape, not one I've heard of before and doesn't immediately show on Google - though it's hard to search for, "copper" being so often used in other contexts. Even searching for "Copper Vape" with quotes is not finding it.
I could email Pro Vapes to ask if they can give more info on the manufacturer, maybe we can find it on a Chinese site.
Anyway, the clone is as close to 1:1 as I can imagine - besides the screws and/or posts. I haven't looked at the original of course, but just judging from the quality of this and seeing the original in Todd's video, I am sure this is an excellent clone. They even replicated the little round spares box.
Actually, there is one difference I know of - this is 304 not 316 SS. But that's to be expected.
I paid £33 for this which is probably 50% more than if I ordered it from China (presuming we can find it in China), but it was still a great price for what I got. The 510 threaded base would cost me at least £20 on its own if I bought one in the UK. It's really heavy and solid. I keep it on my desk now to use for building/storing any atomizer.
Oh, thank you - I'd never thought of that. So the holes themselves could have sharp edges you think? I will definitely try that.
It does bug me that the cloners can do such a fantastic job on every aspect of a clone, but always seem to fall down on the cheapest aspect; the screws (and/or posts, perhaps.) At the same time as getting my Ubertoot I got my first Kayfun v4 clone, from the same vendor. Listed as Infinite/SXK, and again - besides being 304 vs 316 SS - it's absolutely perfect in every way.. except the screws. Tiny little screw heads, way smaller than I see on the videos. It's a real challenge getting wire to stay under them. I've tried looking around for replacements but the screws are so tiny I don't have any screws that will fit. I am actually thinking of buying an authentic spares package just to get the screws - and hoping they kept the screw thread type the same!
Anyway, mustn't complain; there has to be some disadvantage to these clones
I just find it odd the cloners put so much effort into everything else but consistently miss that one small but vital detail.
My fake serial number is 1376 - my guess is that's out of the range of the real serials. Because a) that's what they did with the Aquas and b) I would be very surprised to hear the original sold as many as 1300, from the little I've heard; didn't he stop manufacture pretty quickly? I was told they were no longer available and hadn't been for a little while.
Oh, here's another from a UK vendor that looks identical to mine - including branding. Slightly cheaper too, £30:
UTA Ubertoot RTA V2 (1:1 Clone)
I must say I could well be tempted to get a second, it's a nice bit of kit. Nowadays I try to get top fill exclusively, but this has enough other benefits to make me not mind that it doesn't (officially) have it. And it does have a partial top fill capability in a pinch. Later I will measure how much I can get in top filling it.
Ignoring the cut wires, I really like the deck - simple, dead easy to get a coil right over the air hole, and allowing a pretty big coil. I got a 3.3mm ID 24G Titanium coil in, which was about the limit (I had to adjust it inwards a little because it shorted on the inner ring of the chimney the first attempt.) The limit, such as it is, is on coil thickness - I could have got quite a bit wider than the 9 wraps I am currently using.
Oh, and the "straight through" wicking should work well with stainless steel mesh - as I've just been learning about in another thread
UTA Ubertoot RTA V2 (1:1 Clone)
I must say I could well be tempted to get a second, it's a nice bit of kit. Nowadays I try to get top fill exclusively, but this has enough other benefits to make me not mind that it doesn't (officially) have it. And it does have a partial top fill capability in a pinch. Later I will measure how much I can get in top filling it.
Ignoring the cut wires, I really like the deck - simple, dead easy to get a coil right over the air hole, and allowing a pretty big coil. I got a 3.3mm ID 24G Titanium coil in, which was about the limit (I had to adjust it inwards a little because it shorted on the inner ring of the chimney the first attempt.) The limit, such as it is, is on coil thickness - I could have got quite a bit wider than the 9 wraps I am currently using.
Oh, and the "straight through" wicking should work well with stainless steel mesh - as I've just been learning about in another thread
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I think mine is Copper Vape as well, but with no logos. You can find it on alibaba.
True on the serial numbers. I think only 25 v2 authentics have been sold, but many buyers may not know that.
True on the serial numbers. I think only 25 v2 authentics have been sold, but many buyers may not know that.
25?? Jeez, I didn't realise it was that limited.
And yes agreed, having the whole package replicated is troubling. I like clones, I like getting all the same functionality, but I don't need or want the logos/text/"Made in XXX" stuff. It's going too far.
And yes agreed, having the whole package replicated is troubling. I like clones, I like getting all the same functionality, but I don't need or want the logos/text/"Made in XXX" stuff. It's going too far.
One difference I've just noticed on that second link I posted, to Innovapours - they describe it as coming with a "Ubertoot mod sticker". I don't believe I got that. Doesn't mean it's not the same package of course, I might just be missing it.
No one seems to know if he will sell more authentics or not. So yes, people will pay through the nose for one, which makes fraud quite likely.
I just tested top fill. I think the safe limit is 1.5ml - 1.75ml. I measured 1.75ml in which took it right to the edge of the little 'nipple' at the top of the deck enclosure, a bit too close for comfort.
So it's a pretty small amount. And in fact it may not even be usable.
Since I started trying to do this I have had massive leaking problems. It's not coming through the chimney, but rather it seems to come through the wick. I re-wicked it and made sure I had my outer ring tight against the wick, but it still happened.
I am thinking that it's something to do with pressure - that the pressure of adding new juice (and this is very thick juice, 80% VG) in from the top is pushing in against the wick and somehow forcing past it/pushing it out of the way? i am not very experienced with these matters - predicting liquid flow/understanding pressure and all that.
It doesn't leak when I fill it the normal way, but seems to immediately when top filling. So I'm not going to bother again. It's such a small fill amount that it's not worth risking the leaking, if it's even possible at all.
So it's a pretty small amount. And in fact it may not even be usable.
Since I started trying to do this I have had massive leaking problems. It's not coming through the chimney, but rather it seems to come through the wick. I re-wicked it and made sure I had my outer ring tight against the wick, but it still happened.
I am thinking that it's something to do with pressure - that the pressure of adding new juice (and this is very thick juice, 80% VG) in from the top is pushing in against the wick and somehow forcing past it/pushing it out of the way? i am not very experienced with these matters - predicting liquid flow/understanding pressure and all that.
It doesn't leak when I fill it the normal way, but seems to immediately when top filling. So I'm not going to bother again. It's such a small fill amount that it's not worth risking the leaking, if it's even possible at all.
My current coil is 3.3mm so I would guess the wick must expand to about 3.5 to 4mm outside the coil.
It doesn't ever leak with the normal fill method, only if I try and top fill it. Have you tried and succeeded with top filling?
Oh really? I am very new to Ubertoot clones - in fact, until a few days ago I had never heard of it! I didn't realise there were lots of clones.
I found it quite by chance, browsing a UK vape vendor. It looked good and I googled and watched Todd's complimentary review of the authentic, so thought I'd take a punt.
Here's where I bought mine, unfortunately currently showing sold out: Ubertoot UTA V2 – ProVapes
They list the manufacturer as Copper Vape, not one I've heard of before and doesn't immediately show on Google - though it's hard to search for, "copper" being so often used in other contexts. Even searching for "Copper Vape" with quotes is not finding it.
I could email Pro Vapes to ask if they can give more info on the manufacturer, maybe we can find it on a Chinese site.
Anyway, the clone is as close to 1:1 as I can imagine - besides the screws and/or posts. I haven't looked at the original of course, but just judging from the quality of this and seeing the original in Todd's video, I am sure this is an excellent clone. They even replicated the little round spares box.
Actually, there is one difference I know of - this is 304 not 316 SS. But that's to be expected.
I paid £33 for this which is probably 50% more than if I ordered it from China (presuming we can find it in China), but it was still a great price for what I got. The 510 threaded base would cost me at least £20 on its own if I bought one in the UK. It's really heavy and solid. I keep it on my desk now to use for building/storing any atomizer.
Oh, thank you - I'd never thought of that. So the holes themselves could have sharp edges you think? I will definitely try that.
It does bug me that the cloners can do such a fantastic job on every aspect of a clone, but always seem to fall down on the cheapest aspect; the screws (and/or posts, perhaps.) At the same time as getting my Ubertoot I got my first Kayfun v4 clone, from the same vendor. Listed as Infinite/SXK, and again - besides being 304 vs 316 SS - it's absolutely perfect in every way.. except the screws. Tiny little screw heads, way smaller than I see on the videos. It's a real challenge getting wire to stay under them. I've tried looking around for replacements but the screws are so tiny I don't have any screws that will fit. I am actually thinking of buying an authentic spares package just to get the screws - and hoping they kept the screw thread type the same!
Anyway, mustn't complain; there has to be some disadvantage to these clones
Order some of these. I use them on all of my Kayfuns and they make quite a difference. Expensive for what you are getting but they work. $0.91 Replacement Screws for Kayfun V4 (5-Pack) 5-pack - size: 4.0*1.6mm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Ah thanks! Of course I should have thought of clones.
Only trouble is it seems they are not stainless? Judging by this FT discussion thread. Although that's odd because I have many bags of replacement FT screws (over several orders I have bought every pack of screws they sell in their general screws section) and they are all stainless. So that's bad if these aren't.
I do most of my cleaning in an ultrasonic cleaner so I really need stainless. I don't suppose you happen to have confirmed if yours are? There's only one post saying for sure he found his rust, so it could always be a mistake.
I fill it like a Taigun GT or eXpromizer. Unscrew the base and fill the tank with top cap attached up to the chimney, then screw the base back on.
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