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UK had 1st Oil Vaping-Related Death in 2010, US has 17th.

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  1. iVapeDIY

    iVapeDIY Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 1, 2017
    Toronto, Canada
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    The outbreak of lung illnesses linked to vaping grew by more than 200 cases in a week, now totaling 1,299, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on Thursday.

    Twenty-nine people have died from vaping-related illnesses, health officials said.
    The figures mean that 219 new cases and seven new deaths were reported.

    The current fatality rate, 2.23%, is worse than measles.
    Measles rarely kills in the US -- but when it does, this is how it will happen - CNN
     
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  2. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I guess we should all just go back to smoking, it's probably safer.
     
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  3. Jebbn

    Jebbn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Im sure there will be more deaths and illness from using illicit thc cartridges etc.
     
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  4. iVapeDIY

    iVapeDIY Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 1, 2017
    Toronto, Canada
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    The CDC is currently performing lab tests of lung biopsies and tissue specimens from patients, as well as conducting "aerosol emission testing" of e-cigarette products used by patients in an effort to uncover the chemicals contributing to the outbreak, the agency said.
    Announcing the latest increase in illnesses, the CDC reiterated its conclusion that products containing THC, the psychoactive component of marijuana, are a main culprit and should be avoided. About 78 percent of patients say they used vaping products containing THC, according to the CDC, and nearly a third of patients reported using only THC products. Ten percent said they vaped only nicotine, although doctors caution that people may be reluctant to admit to using marijuana.

    The CDC has spent the past few weeks testing patients’ lung biopsies and autopsy specimens and is validating tests for urine and elements of blood as well as fluid squirted into and then collected from the lungs.

    Those newer tests, for which the CDC says it already has samples, will help the agency look for substances such as vitamin E acetate, a chemical found in marijuana products that’s drawn investigators’ scrutiny and can be dangerous to inhale. Cheaper than THC oil, vitamin E acetate is often added to vape cartridges, industry experts say.
    A 13-year-old has become the youngest person to die of vaping-linked illness, underscoring the outsize and devastating effects e-cigarettes are having on American youth as US officials try to keep kids away from them.
     
  5. Katya

    Katya ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I wouldn't go back to smoking quite yet. [​IMG]

    Effects of Electronic Cigarette Constituents on the Human Lung: A Pilot Clinical Trial

    It's a small pilot study from Ohio, and they only tested PG and VG (no nic and no flavorings), but they found nothing, nada, zip, zilch, nil, naught, Nichts. :) A tiny increase in inflammation is truly insignificant in comparison to smoking. I'm pretty sure that breathing LA air on smoggy day causes much more significant lung inflammation. :facepalm:

    So, at least for now, we can breathe easier (pun fully intended). And I hope that CDC finds out what the heck is going on before the whole world bans vaping.
     
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  6. plumeguy

    plumeguy Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    No one in the history of ever uses the term "e-cigarettes" to refer to THC vape pens.

    Unless they are trying to confuse, deceive, and con the intended recipient.
     
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  7. AttyPops

    AttyPops Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    The #'s in the articles are all over the place.

    I'm going with the CDC's latest info, that "only" 10% reported exclusive nic use. The remainder were "various substances" not nic vaping. (I also assume some of that 10% lied due to local laws or street deals).

    It's interesting:
    From here with more info: Outbreak of Lung Injury Associated with E-Cigarette Use, or Vaping
     
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  8. iVapeDIY

    iVapeDIY Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 1, 2017
    Toronto, Canada
    Yup. Interestingly, many EVALI cases (non-THC) are linked to severe asthmatic/ allergic reactions.
    The odds of having asthma are increased by about 50% among adolescents who are using e-cigarettes, controlling for cigarette smoking and other risk factors.​
    We conclude that e-cigarette use by adolescents is independently associated with asthma.
    Locally, Colorado experienced its first death due to a vaping-related illness on Oct. 3, the very morning of the Science Policy Summit, in an 18-year-old vaping user with a history of asthma.
    Jami Scheetz’s 15-year-old son Devon, who has severe asthma, kicked a brutal vaping habit over the summer, with help from a nicotine patch. But as soon as school started and he was once again around kids vaping, his habit returned. On Sept. 12, Devon vaped at school and immediately began sweating and vomiting.
    Vail's lawyers insisted Wakefield's asthma was not a persistent problem in his young adult life, and that Wakefield didn't even really use an inhaler. (The lawsuit itself cites studies that have claimed e-cigarettes could possibly cause—or at least exacerbate—asthma.)

    Imaging of Vaping-Associated Lung Disease
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc1911995

    Through clinical and pathological investigations, patterns of giant-cell interstitial pneumonia, hypersensitivity pneumonitis, and diffuse alveolar hemorrhage were identified

    Although the variety of imaging patterns suggests different mechanisms of injury, and more patterns will probably be reported, most of the patterns have basilar-predominant consolidation and ground-glass opacity, often with areas of lobular or subpleural sparing. Rapidly developing acute lung injuries (e.g., acute eosinophilic pneumonia and diffuse alveolar damage) are associated with inhalational injuries and have overlapping pathological and imaging findings,5 and they have been reported to occur with vaping.1 Hypersensitivity pneumonitis is an immune response to an environmental antigen, but the antigens related to vaping are unknown. Lipoid pneumonia is an inflammatory response to the presence of lipids within the alveolar space and typically results from aspiration of hydrocarbons or oil-based products, but it has now been seen with vaping. We have not observed the computed tomographic finding of fat attenuation in the lung, which is a hallmark of lipoid pneumonia, in these cases of vaping-associated lung injury. Not all cases are acute; organizing pneumonia often develops subacutely, over a period of days to weeks, and the one case of giant-cell interstitial pneumonia (a rare fibrosing interstitial lung disease) that was correlated with hard metals in ENDS developed over a period of 6 months.

    The parallels to severe allergic reaction to benzoates (used for enhanced nicotine absorption and preservative) are striking.
     
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  9. iVapeDIY

    iVapeDIY Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 1, 2017
    Toronto, Canada
  10. virm

    virm Ultra Member

    Oct 27, 2019
    (not sure if this thread concerns only anglo-world cases; video there for reference. they'll throw in a couple of pinches of english, to make doctors' pretentiousness really pop)

    new (actually not sure of broadcast date, but posting is from a couple months ago) case of pulmonary hemorrhage in Amman (that's where the broadcast is from, anyway) (guess translation).

    The three in program are physicians, including the injured lad. he had the bleed working at a hospital and passed out. interview is month thereafter. ex-smoker (changed to) > casual smoker > exclusive vaper (mod > pod, 30-50mg (nicsalt, obv.)
    the elder recounts several studies, incl. European respiratory assosiation and a ban in norway and oz, his info on studies are more uptodate, though probably incomplete, than banning-news (unless these places have renewed a ban). says the '95% safer'-thing is not exactly a study, just an estimate, this would change now, but comprehensive study is difficult.

    FYIs,
    cannibus is illegal there
    the program did previously make pro-vaping episodes, also hosting elder physicians.
    regulations are still not drawn up so there's probably little control on liquids etc. (the elder actually states he is trying to counter the current ~move toward regulation/legistlation, which we're starting now as other countries are starting to ban~
    he does mention some of the regular irrelevant stuff, like the underage vaping crap and the rest the US mess
    does not mention cannibus, thc, or the specifics of the global cases



    there's something i found from cairo too, but it's less to the point, more debate-like.

    among the reads i've caught this was more recent and clearer, it's pop-science, mentions the US-bla too, and probably only summarizes parts of what's already been psted here, but here it is.

    Here Are All The Valid Health Reasons Why So Many Countries Are Banning Vapes
     
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