US Vape Mail Ban - USPS/FedEx/UPS/DHL

[UncLeJunkLe]

River Supply also had it.

 

[Territoo]

Bottom line to both of your questions is IDK. To the first it depends on a number of things, storage space available to me, the shelf life of the opened product. I probably will since handling it is a hazard and I'll gown and glove up. To your second, I expect that the package to be labeled, but I also expect that it is a stable compound and should have a long shelf life if not exposed to air, light, etc. I'm hoping it comes vacuum sealed.

 

[Uncle Willie]

Liquid Nicotine Wholesalers is where I bought it... I went for the stronger to save space..

Wow, never heard of them, but they still have a site .. Commercial sales, it looks like .. 5 gallons minimum of 250mg and about 2K on the money .. and, 1000mg at $400 a liter ..

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Let's not get this thread shut down.



Rule 35: Nicotine Strength
...To protect our members and ourselves we do not allow discussion of or sources for anything over 200mg (20% nic) [4].

 

[Opinionated]

Wow, never heard of them, but they still have a site .. Commercial sales, it looks like .. 5 gallons minimum of 250mg and about 2K on the money .. and, 1000mg at $400 a liter ..

They were cheaper a week ago, I checked when they sent me an email...

When I bought that gallon I used an ELR coupon code (and points too I think) and spent about 435.00 shipped.

They have gone commercial only, Nude Nicotine did too, they stopped shipping retail before LNW did..

 

[Opinionated]

Let's not get this thread shut down.

I'll shut up now.. lol.

 

[Territoo]

I bought some of that from them too. I have 2 liters. The only freezer space I have is the freezer atop my refrigerator. I have the two liters of the 250mg/ml and 2 liters of 100mg/ml in there. They are in 32 oz bottles.

 

[Territoo]

Let's not get this thread shut down.

I agree. It's time for me to go back to my mixing anyway.

 

[BillW50]

As per rosesense

 

[BillW50]

A loophole?

You think we can get a government grant for our Personal Academic Commercial Research too?

 

[rosesense]

A loophole?


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Informative but I wouldn't post that here, just in case.

 

[aikanae1]

UPS GROUND. How FedEx got it I have no idea. That's the weird part. Nice of them to let UPS know it was delivered.

There was a recent $$$ lawsuit (NY?) that UPS lost for "illegal" delivery of nic/tobacco products before the mail ban. That maybe why carriers jumped onboard so quick to drop most shipments.

Ironic because in Calif (and other states/cities?) UPS and FedEx lobbied to restrict online sales to signature on delivery. They sent reps to testify at city council meetings, with backroom access. I assume they sunk an equal effort into a nat'l campaign. And all for nothing in the end.

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[somdcomputerguy]

I bet I'll get that 1400 dollar stimulus check now... lol

I hadn't planned on upping my nic stash with stimuli money, but your post got me thinkin', for less than half the check I could add another 30 years to that stash.

eta: Of course that dream was based on what nic prices used to be..

 

[Opinionated]

I hadn't planned on upping my nic stash with stimuli money, but your post got me thinkin', for less than half the check I could add another 30 years to that stash.

eta: Of course that dream was based on what nic prices used to be..

That's what my husband wanted to do last month before everyone stopped shipping retail, but in examining our finances it was something we just couldn't afford until that stimulus check came..

Of course I check daily for the last two weeks and nada yet... so now that retail stopped, I'll probably get the stupid thing.... haha

 

[joshiesmommy]

Got my liquid nic from nic giant today. Securely packaged and all still contained in the bottles (thank god lightning didn’t strike twice, lol). And decided to place a last minute diy supply order from bull city to go with it, and scales and bottles from Amazon. No more ordering feels rather sad......


Oh and in spite of all of the signature stuff, both ups and Usps have left several vape packages on the porch including the nic delivered today.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

eta: Of course that dream was based on what nic prices used to be..

Nic prices haven't gone up. only place I know of that raised prices was Caroline Extract, by about $10 a liter. Everyone else that's still shipping/selling to consumers has the same priced they had last year. See here. LNW didn't raise their price, they just stopped selling anything less than 5 gallons in their house brand. But now they went B2B only.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Got my liquid nic from nic giant today. Securely packaged and all still contained in the bottles (thank god lightning didn’t strike twice, lol). And decided to place a last minute diy supply order from bull city to go with it, and scales and bottles from Amazon. No more ordering feels rather sad......

So whatever happened with LNW order? Did you get a refund or are they sending you more?

 

[joshiesmommy]

So whatever happened with LNW order? Did you get a refund or are they sending you more?

I just got a reply from them a few minutes ago, they want me to send pics of the missing nicotine. Only problem with that is that I rebottled it right away and all original packaging got disposed of this am

 

[Opinionated]

Got my liquid nic from nic giant today. Securely packaged and all still contained in the bottles (thank god lightning didn’t strike twice, lol). And decided to place a last minute diy supply order from bull city to go with it, and scales and bottles from Amazon. No more ordering feels rather sad......


Oh and in spite of all of the signature stuff, both ups and Usps have left several vape packages on the porch including the nic delivered today.

Bull city isn't closing or stopping shipping are they?

They sell food flavorings, so long as whatever it is isn't advertised or promoted as anything to do with e cigarette use they can sell whatever... it's the labelling that matters in my understanding...

 

[Koolkiz]

Bull city isn't closing or stopping shipping are they?

They sell food flavorings, so long as whatever it is isn't advertised or promoted as anything to do with e cigarette use they can sell whatever... it's the labelling that matters in my understanding...

They stopped selling nicotine years ago. I read somewhere they have no plans on closing their business. They sell food flavorings. Believe it or tobacco flavorings (like Tobacco absolute) are used in men's perfume. If you go out on the internet one can find TA.