USA Today - Ads blow smoke at e-cigarette users
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So sick of hearing 'THE CHILDREN' for every issue. I agree that these shouldn't be sold to, marketed to, or in the reach of kids, but they are far less harmful than alcohol, cigarettes, or caffeine
(think energy drinks) which are readily available today.
(think energy drinks) which are readily available today.
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Families homeless, due to smoking bans. It's for the children.
Families out of employment, due to the smoking bans. It's for the children.
Families live in poverty from excessive taxes. It's for the children.
And now they want to do the same thing to vapers, the non smokers..,, for the children.
Today's children have learned how to bully, cheat, lie, twist facts, disrespect, disguise racism under a cause, abandon others, blame others, use others, use children as a bartering card, live off big Pharma.. By watching the political maneuvers and greed of their elders. Is it no wonder the poor things are turning more & more into people just like them. When these kids grow up, they will be kicking these same elders into the streets, over a cause they will fancifully dream up. I just hope they move into the cardboard box next to mine and the thousands of others they've ousted from their employment and homes. Karma.
Families out of employment, due to the smoking bans. It's for the children.
Families live in poverty from excessive taxes. It's for the children.
And now they want to do the same thing to vapers, the non smokers..,, for the children.
Today's children have learned how to bully, cheat, lie, twist facts, disrespect, disguise racism under a cause, abandon others, blame others, use others, use children as a bartering card, live off big Pharma.. By watching the political maneuvers and greed of their elders. Is it no wonder the poor things are turning more & more into people just like them. When these kids grow up, they will be kicking these same elders into the streets, over a cause they will fancifully dream up. I just hope they move into the cardboard box next to mine and the thousands of others they've ousted from their employment and homes. Karma.
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That's a reprint of the USA Today's 9/22/13 editorial at
E-cigarettes threaten to undo years of gains: Our view
E-cigarettes threaten to undo years of gains: Our view
When those arrogant today, depressed and stressed tomorrow over losing their job, family, home, fall off the wagon, hopefully the safer alternative will be around or they will only only have smokes to puff on until they're ready to go through all those quitting fail steps again.
Medical Definition of ADDICTION
persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be physically, psychologically, or socially harmful
This definition has two parts: The use must be compulsive,, and the substance must be harmful.
As JF Etter pointed out in his presentation at a University of San Francisco workshop this week, there is no evidence of any adverse consequences of using e-cigarettes.
So while smoking may be addictive, I don't think it is fair to say that "E-cigarettes can be just as addictive as the real thing."
A. We have seen no evidence that any non-nicotine user has ever become addicted to e-cigarettes.
B. We have seen no evidence that inhaling vaporized nicotine is particularly harmful.
If there really is some evidence out there that we've missed, I hope that USA Today will post the links to those studies.
persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be physically, psychologically, or socially harmful
This definition has two parts: The use must be compulsive,, and the substance must be harmful.
As JF Etter pointed out in his presentation at a University of San Francisco workshop this week, there is no evidence of any adverse consequences of using e-cigarettes.
So while smoking may be addictive, I don't think it is fair to say that "E-cigarettes can be just as addictive as the real thing."
A. We have seen no evidence that any non-nicotine user has ever become addicted to e-cigarettes.
B. We have seen no evidence that inhaling vaporized nicotine is particularly harmful.
If there really is some evidence out there that we've missed, I hope that USA Today will post the links to those studies.
This year alone, we estimate that 2 billion traditional cigarettes won't be smoked in the United States as a result of smokers converting to e-cigarettes.
We need to hypnotize Stanton Glantz and the like into remembering and embracing this!!
We need to hypnotize Stanton Glantz and the like into remembering and embracing this!!
Shouldn't they be crossing that bridge, if and when, they ever come to it? I don't understand why they're not jumping up and down with joy over so many smokers quitting smoking every day. It shouldn't matter how, or why, just that we are and have and did. Diluting this magic by worrying about a what-if is not only ridiculous, it's damming.
It reminds me of the old days when tv's first came out. They're the devils hands!
Yet we watched Billy Graham, Mother Theresa, the Pope, Walt Disney, ... Hmmmm, I guess they were right after all.
It reminds me of the old days when tv's first came out. They're the devils hands!
Yet we watched Billy Graham, Mother Theresa, the Pope, Walt Disney, ... Hmmmm, I guess they were right after all.
However, my colleague, Carl V Phillips has a different take on the definition of addiction: Does ANYONE have a valid definition of “addiction”? | Anti-THR Lies and related topics
One of the issues I have with the "nicotine is addictive" arguement is that it's ignoring the 400 additional ingredients added to cigarettes that are potentially addictive and equally as harmful, if not more so. This shouldn't be just about nicotine. Cigarettes are more than nicotine. Vaping is just nicotine and that's GOOD.
Personally ...
I have adopted the position one becomes addicted to smoking
and "dependent" on nicotine.
Nicotine alone doesn't satisfy our addiction.
Without the act of smoking with the visible harmless vapor ...
there wouldn't even be an ECF.
I have adopted the position one becomes addicted to smoking
and "dependent" on nicotine.
Nicotine alone doesn't satisfy our addiction.
Without the act of smoking with the visible harmless vapor ...
there wouldn't even be an ECF.
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