Using Alcohol in juice mixes?

[ctruth]

I am thinking of experimenting with alcohol in some of my flavor mixes. I saw Absolut mentioned in one post a while back, but there was no context.

I have Crown Russe and Smirnoff (both 80 proof). A friend who used to work as a liquor salesman once told me they are actually one and the same. Which saved me a lot of chc (cold hard cash) when I was a drinker.

My question is, would either of these be suitable for vaping?

And why/not?

Also, what would be a good experimental percentage to begin with?

This has probably been asked a thousand times, but I’m tired of searching for the specifics, and the posts in the ejuice Recipes forum are 6 or 7 days behind date.

(I sure wish the search engine in here was a bit more sophisticated).

If someone knows of a FAQ out there, please point me to it.

Thank you.

 

[scott58]

Smirnoff's is what I use. I'm getting good result at about 5%.

 

[mwa102464]

I made an awesome batch tonight of a menthol spearment mix in a 30ml volume and added 10% Kettle one Vodka, THE GOOD STUFF SEEMED TO PAY OFF !!!! Anyway the Kettle one gave me a nice smooth throat hit when put in the mix with a 50%x50% mix of PG & VG Added with the Menthol Spearment mix !!

 

[lunaras]

I have used cognac and cheap vodka mixed in my juices to thin them a bit and both were good. It helps throat hit quite a bit, but decreases vapor in my opinion.

 

[maureengill]

I don't have an answer because I don't DIY, but I did want to note that I prefer my Smirnoff Vanilla go in a glass with a bit of coke or pepsi.

Maureen

 

[Kimber]

Alcohol (usually pga or vodka) is commonly used to increase throat hit. If you want to step up the vapor production and throat hit at the same time, try mixing alcohol with vg and then adding it to your cart (or atty if you drip).

 

[Liscab]

I usualy make my base with 3 parts of VG and one of everclear or Vodka then I mix that with the factory liquid in proportion to the nic needed

 

[Technobob]

For the best kick use 95% (190 Proof) alcohol and it's also good for cleaning your attys.

 

[MoeJoe39]

It makes me wonder if the added alcohol could turn up on a breathalizer test..........

 

[Madame Psychosis]

I tried 10-15% Stolichnaya the other night and it nearly knocked me over with the unpleasant kind of throat hit (no flavor, just a burn in the back of my throat - I kept thinking I'd underjuiced my atty because I couldn't tell if it was a burning sensation or a burning vapor taste). Stick to <10%, probably 5%.

I'm personally switching to Everclear/grain alcohol from now on, too, so I can use much less and still get some throat hit. Less water (i.e. higher alcohol content) will probably prevent any reduction of vapor, too.

 

[ThaLadyD]

I DIY with only PG, Non-flavored, and add flavors, but I've found there hasn't been much vapor.

So, my question is what percentage of alcohol do ya'll use? And do you add any small percentage of distilled water?

 

[Liscab]

I DIY with only PG, Non-flavored, and add flavors, but I've found there hasn't been much vapor.

So, my question is what percentage of alcohol do ya'll use? And do you add any small percentage of distilled water?

if you are using PG don't add more than a 10% or 12% .
Try 20 drops of PG and 2 of alcohol or water, small qty. untill you get the right one for you,

 

[Raenon]

Much of the visible plume is due to VG/PG robbing water out of the air anyway, so adding a little bit of distilled water (in the form of lower proof alcohol) is probably not the worst thing that can happen.

I use smirnoff red label (40% / 80 proof) with my vg for my blends. It works at least as well as my straight e-liquid in terms of vapor production, and improves the throat hit (without being as "sharp" as some of the e-liquids are).

 

[ThaLadyD]

Thanks, I'll try that!

 

[darkmatter22]

woah hold on..... i had this idea a few months ago and never though it would work...... through vaping, do you receive the same results with alcohol? more relaxed?

 

[Raenon]

woah hold on..... i had this idea a few months ago and never though it would work...... through vaping, do you receive the same results with alcohol? more relaxed?

No, you don't absorb anything like the volume of alcohol it would take to actually recieve an effect. You're probably getting less than when you use vanilla extract in ice cream- ie: practically none.

 

[Madame Psychosis]

woah hold on..... i had this idea a few months ago and never though it would work...... through vaping, do you receive the same results with alcohol? more relaxed?

If you vape 5 ml (generous estimate) a day, of liquid at 10% 80 proof vodka (40% alcohol), you're consuming 0.2 ml of ethanol a day, or about 4 drops of pure alcohol over the course of an entire day.

In contrast, a 12 oz (355 ml) light beer with 4.0% alcohol content contains approx. 14.2 ml of ethanol, and you can consume that an awful lot faster.

The only potential difference is in the delivery method and whether it hits your bloodstream faster with vaping -- but I just see such a huge difference in alcohol content that I can't imagine anyone feeling it.


I do wish I had access to a breathalyzer, though, because in some states the threshold for DUI is extremely low, and if you had just inhaled and exhaled some alcohol-containing juice... I just wonder how much vapor might linger in your lung's alveoli to get expelled the next time you next do an intentional exhale. It's probably not an issue, I'm just curious about things that can be tested.
Any cops or spouses of cops on the board can get us a read on this easily?

 

[ThaLadyD]

Oh to be pulled over and locked up for failing a breathalyzer
cuz I was VAPING!!

Now that would be interesting!

 

[j4mmin42]

So from what I've been reading here...our tiny PV's don't deliver enough alcohol to intoxicate you, even with a high-percentage mix? Back when they were semi-legal, my good friend had an alcohol vaporizer that was specifically designed to do just that...

-J4mmin

 

[Raenon]

So from what I've been reading here...our tiny PV's don't deliver enough alcohol to intoxicate you, even with a high-percentage mix? Back when they were semi-legal, my good friend had an alcohol vaporizer that was specifically designed to do just that...

-J4mmin

And I'm sure it had to vaporize a fairly large amount of it, probably into a rather moist mist rather than a cloudy vapor. Alcohol won't make a opaque/semi-opaque vapor like we're used to with e-cigs- at least not without getting and staying a LOT warmer than would be comfortable.

Most cartridges hold less than one ml, however- which means something like 20-30 (or more) carts for one shot of alcohol, IF it was pure rather than mixed with vg/pg, which would just pour right out of most cart fillings anyway. 10 times that if it's only 10% by volume like most people are suggesting, which means it'll take you many months to inhale a single serving of alcohol- which would still not put most adults over the legal limits for intoxication if consumed all at once.