VAMO from vaporbreak.com

[Blix]

LOL , Blix, may be this is intercontinal so differend , i am from deutschland living in the usa "south" . i know norway from Kristiansand and Lillesand ...long time ago
i will not say VB is a scam, but you must understand...payed money...no delivery..no working traking no.and so on.

Now that was better. I haven't been in Germany since I was a kid.
Did you pay with Paypal? you could always open a dispute to get your money back.
From this thread it seems VB is a one-man operation with orders way over his head.

 

[mecocina]

I ordered from them for the first time, received my tracking and Vamo in a decent amount of time. Many people in this thread received their products. I guess they got backed up after their New Year celebration and shipping was delayed or items out of stock but they are not a scam.

 

[Stoneface]

I can also vouch that VB is not a "scam." I ordered and received products without an issue. However, I expected a long wait for delivery and a different customer service experience (than I might have from a US company). I read about others' experiences and reviews before I ordered from VB, so I felt prepared for what may come. If you pay through PayPal, you have a layer of consumer protection and can recover the purchase price. My advice is to educate and prepare yourself before you purchase from VB and there will be less disappointment and confusion. There is a difference between dissatisfaction and being deceived, so the "scam" accusation is, IMO, a bit of unnecessary hyperbole.

 

[DoctorJ]

I found this deal on a vamo Variable Voltage Mod E-Cig Vamos V2 With Vivi Nova Atomizer set_Big mods_Electronic Cigarette_E-home Onlie SHOP - Powered by ECShop but since the last time I ordered from a Chinese vendor, not vape related, it took 3 weeks to receive my order and I also ended up with 3 unauthorized charges on my credit card originating from China. Took a month to get that straightened out! Won't ever order from a Chinese vendor again!

 

[she.ra]

I found this deal on a vamo Variable Voltage Mod E-Cig Vamos V2 With Vivi Nova Atomizer set_Big mods_Electronic Cigarette_E-home Onlie SHOP - Powered by ECShop but since the last time I ordered from a Chinese vendor, not vape related, it took 3 weeks to receive my order and I also ended up with 3 unauthorized charges on my credit card originating from China. Took a month to get that straightened out! Won't ever order from a Chinese vendor again!

you just said it was not vape related, so why post that? do we really need to know about you getting ripped of by asians for non vape related stuff?

and you already posted this in another thread.

 

[Light Seeker]

VB is not a scam, just another Chinese vendor. I've ordered many things from Asia, 3 weeks to my door is normal. If its anywhere near the Chinese New Year shutdown, double or triple that time frame. When you get an email saying its shipped from the vendor, it takes 3-5 days to come up on China Post tracking, and even then, there's probably a 25% chance it won't show on tracking at all. Tracking is not vendor issues, its China Post. Returns are often a true hassle, and can take a few months to straighten out due to shipping times. In all the items Ive bought from Asian vendors, only been double charged once, it was their error and quickly credited... but don't use a debit card, pay with a credit card or paypal so you have recourse.

As said before, customer service is usually not the same as US vendors, its not just VB, its many firms. You're getting the same products that cost 2x to 3x retail US pricing... if you don't have patience, don't play the game. But to label VB as a scam after many have received their products just shows an ignorance of normal expectations from China purchases and impatience.

 

[DaveNC]

Well, my Vamo has left the ship after it's long cruise - USPS tracking says it's been processed through the Bethpage sort facility, so I'm guessing I should see it sometime next week.

 

[dertbv]

I order from DX all the time and expect at least a month to 6 weeks before i get the items. So if it arrives in that time frame it's all good with me. I have had the chance to chat with them several times and they have been pretty responsive not great but ok.

I am at the 3 week mark for my items from them. So i figure half way home. I did get a racking number earlier this week but it really does not give any feedback.

How long was yours on the boat before it sprang to life?

 

[DaveNC]

How long was yours on the boat before it sprang to life?

I ordered on 2/27 and received a tracking number on 3/1.

I've also ordered from DX and it usually takes longer than this for the goods to show up. Ordering direct from the Chinese sites saves money, but takes patience.

 

[garyd]

Not a scam, but the buisness is not run very well. Could be a language barrier, a huge increase in buisness that he couldn't keep up with, or expect, of course very bad communication but seems to be getting better. Have always received everything I ordered except one case where I got a refund as I got tired of waiting (12 days) for them to ship as they were out of stock, they gave refund after I threatened paypal dispute. All in all I've been pretty happy with the product they've sent and can't beat the price if you have the time to wait.

 

[div]

VB is not a scam. I waited 22 days for my order (a holiday was thrown in there) and all was as expected, a very good outcome for a solid vaping machine. It double as a weapon (just in case) for me.

 

[harvinstl]

My order on the 23rd has shipped today! Can't wait!

If you pay through PayPal, you have a layer of consumer protection and can recover the purchase price.

I wanted to address this statement so that people don't continue to have a false sense of security when using paypal.
The only way PayPal will return money to you is if they have money in their paypal account. If you send me $20 and I withdraw it from my account before you file and win a dispute you get $0.

The best (and IMHO only) method of funding paypal is with a credit/debit card. That way if you are screwed you file a dispute with your card company. I've done this twice and received a refund from my bank both times.

If you pay someone with funds already in your paypal account be aware that if there is an issue a dispute will only return money if they still have money in their account.

 

[Stoneface]

My order on the 23rd has shipped today! Can't wait!



I wanted to address this statement so that people don't continue to have a false sense of security when using paypal.
The only way PayPal will return money to you is if they have money in their paypal account. If you send me $20 and I withdraw it from my account before you file and win a dispute you get $0.

The best (and IMHO only) method of funding paypal is with a credit/debit card. That way if you are screwed you file a dispute with your card company. I've done this twice and received a refund from my bank both times.

If you pay someone with funds already in your paypal account be aware that if there is an issue a dispute will only return money if they still have money in their account.

Agreed. I do this as well. Sometimes it is easy for me to forget that some other people may not. However, with that said, I still stand by the original statement in the full context. I will also reiterate that not everyone who orders from Vapor Break will be dissatisfied.

 

[Light Seeker]

The only way PayPal will return money to you is if they have money in their paypal account. If you send me $20 and I withdraw it from my account before you file and win a dispute you get $0.

If the PayPal account balance is $0, PayPal deducts the amount from the sellers linked bank account/credit card. This is held until resolution of the claim, returning the amount to either the seller or the buyer.

 

[harvinstl]

If the PayPal account balance is $0, PayPal deducts the amount from the sellers linked bank account/credit card. This is held until resolution of the claim, returning the amount to either the seller or the buyer.

That had not been my experience and I find it hard to believe that PayPal is going to attempt to withdraw money from someone's bank account without their approval.

 

[bunksteve]

Ordered the SS Vamo and 10 of those needle-tip bottles (I own none and they were 40 cents apiece, sold!). Got my shipping confirmation today. I ordered it with the full knowledge that it's coming from China and will take time so I am waiting patiently and excitedly for my first "heavy duty" mod.

I have some 18650's I use with my Smoketech VV Gripper, but think I may need to order a couple of more and an extra charger.

 

[she.ra]

That had not been my experience and I find it hard to believe that PayPal is going to attempt to withdraw money from someone's bank account without their approval.

they dont actually take money from a bank account, they give the seller a negative balance, the seller cannot use the account till the balance is paid.
the buyer will get the refund imediatley though.

 

[Light Seeker]

they dont actually take money from a bank account, they give the seller a negative balance, the seller cannot use the account till the balance is paid.
the buyer will get the refund imediatley though.

My paypal is set up linked to a bank account. If I purchase a $15 item, have $5 in paypal, a charge of $10 will be drawn on the bank account.

I receive 3-6 paypal payments per day for my biz (not eBay. eBay does have some sellers protections). Ive never had a dispute, so not sure if they do draw from the bank like on a normal purchase. Actually, knock on wood, I have no desire to find out

 

[she.ra]

My paypal is set up linked to a bank account. If I purchase a $15 item, have $5 in paypal, a charge of $10 will be drawn on the bank account.

I receive 3-6 paypal payments per day for my biz (not eBay. eBay does have some sellers protections). Ive never had a dispute, so not sure if they do draw from the bank like on a normal purchase. Actually, knock on wood, I have no desire to find out

your talking about two different things there i think.
if you make a purchase, like you said, if the account is linked to a cc and you only have 5 dollars in your pp account then yes, they withdraw the remainder from your cc.
if you sell something to someone, same situation as above, the buyer files a dispute,and you loose the claim pp will take what you have in your pp account only, if you dont have the money to cover the claim they will put a negative balance on your pp account for the remainder, you will then not be able to use the pp account until the balance is paid.
never will they withdraw money from linked cc for dispute payouts, it is illegal.

maybe this is what you are trying to say and i have misunderstood you.

what you quoted was actually directed to others that do not seem to know how pp actually works.

if you claim a dispute for fraudulant charges, they suspend both accounts and seize the balances of both accounts. untill the charge is figured out no one gets money.

if your account is suspended for breach, your assests are seized for 6 months before they are returned to you.

 

[Light Seeker]

Thanks she.ra, as mentioned, I've never had a dispute with any of my customers so I have no personal knowledge. I use PayPal to accept cc's, as many do.... There's always a positive balance there with clients purchasing, I'm sure many businesses have the same until they transfer it to a bank account. So with a positive balance, the seller has a hold on their funds for the amount sold.