Vape without a e-cig

[Luke Wellington]

The US Navy just ban the use of ecigs on ships after to many cases of them exploding and hurting sailors, therefore mods, batteries and tanks can no longer be used. I know many many sailors who vape to quit smoking, and a lot of them are gonna be forced to use analog cigarettes again unless anyone can find a practical way to vaporize eliquid without electricity.
Anyone have any ideas

 

[madstabber]

Do you have the numbers on how many sailors have been hurt by exploding ecigs? Do you have any first hand experience of a fellow sailor being injured? I find it hard to believe that this is a real problem and not just an overreaction. As for a solution in the mean time you can load up a metal pot or pan with ejuice and use a can of sterno to heat it up. Get your fellow vapers in a small room and hotbox the whole room. I think if you get it hot enough the juice will vaporize.

 

[Luke Wellington]

Do you have the numbers on how many sailors have been hurt by exploding ecigs? Do you have any first hand experience of a fellow sailor being injured? I find it hard to believe that this is a real problem and not just an overreaction. As for a solution in the mean time you can load up a metal pot or pan with ejuice and use a can of sterno to heat it up. Get your fellow vapers in a small room and hotbox the whole room. I think if you get it hot enough the juice will vaporize.

Oh no I completely agree it's probably an over reaction. The explosion are most likely just from people not knowing or neglecting basic safety things like putting damaged batteries in the mod or a loose battery in the pocket with metal in it. But there isn't anything the average sailor can do other than wait for the study on if it's safe to end. But either way it would be great if there was a way to avoid switching back to analogs or chew especially after some have been off it for so long.

 

[madstabber]

Yea that totally sucks that you guys have quit smoking or dipping and are forced to make a tough choice. It's shameful what BT has done putting their propaganda out there, but I guess we should expect it at this point. My only advice at this point would be stealth vape. Break the rules, the vapor dissipates so quickly or just bury your hits. I don't know how hard it would be to sneak your equipment on to the ships but I say go for it. Unless the penalty is Leavenworth or dishonorable discharge it's better to beg forgiveness than ask permission.

 

[halbgott]

Cell phone battery? prolly not.

There are batteries being developed right now that can be cut and poked but don't ignite.

 

[mountaingal]

it's better to beg forgiveness than ask permission.

I work on a yacht and vape, however, the boss and wife have no idea that I vape. I vape only when alone or with the other crew member.(my hubby) I never vape on the docks where other crew can see me. I make my own juice and, of course, I am a "tootle-puffer" not a "cloud-chaser". I have worked for them for over four years! I figure, that if I asked, I may be told NO. So, I really think stealth vaping is possible on a sub. I guess, the sailors could do it; if I can do it for all these years.

 

[Luke Wellington]

Haha no breaking the rules could lead you in deep deep .... the rest of your life in the military

 

[Bunnykiller]

when I cant vape... I "drip". I place a small drop of juice on my thumb nail and lick it up, then I smear the juice around my mouth and feel the tingle... it works quite well... just be careful you dont do big drops... overdoing it can lead to hiccups

 

[Opinionated]

Since vaping IS the alternative, there is no alternative to the alternative to smoking.

You can try doing as @Bunnykiller said and drop a drip on your finger and put it in your mouth for nic, but this doesn't recreate the smoking experience (the hand to mouth action, the deep inhaling and exhaling etc that is just as much an addiction as the nicotine itself)..

It sounds like if they take away the alternative to smoking then most will revert back to the thing you were trying to get away from.. smoking.. because without power of some kind, I wouldn't know how to vaporize the e liquid so it can be inhaled.

 

[madstabber]

Cell phone battery? prolly not.

There are batteries being developed right now that can be cut and poked but don't ignite.

Yea I did see those batteries on tv. The guy was demonstrating it by cutting the battery into pieces, and stabbing holes in it. They had similar energy to current lithium ions. If those went mainstream the navy couldn't claim its banned for safety reasons. Although I have a feeling they would come up with something else to criticize.

 

[Tonee N]

Graphene batteries?

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[sofarsogood]

The injuries involved mech mods. If the Navy had banned those from the start there would probably be no injuries to talk about. The industry and the community is to blame for not talking about the diifference between mechanical and protected devices.

 

[Rule62]

Fire aboard a ship at sea is a serious matter.
It's sad, but IMO, vapors have done this to themselves. Safe handling, use, and storage of lithium batteries is no big secret. We've been talking about it for years, and yet, people continue to misuse and mishandle batteries. Too many accidents, which have caught the attention of media and policy makers.

 

[Layzee Vaper]

I think your best bet would be to use either gum or patches (or just quit altogether lots of people do!). I am ex RN and it is very difficult to hide anything at all on a Warship. I don't think stealth vaping would be an viable option over a 3 or 6 month deployment. Risk of fire and explosion on a warship is going to be much much greater than in a domestic environment. I would think rightly or wrongly that they would through the book at anyone caught vaping. Having said all that, I would still think that the risk of fire on board would be lower with e-cigs than with conventional cigs.
It sucks but thats life in a blue suit sometimes.

 

[Eskie]

If reason were to enter the picture (I know, fantasy) this might be a situation when stuff like the newer pod mods would be a good compromise. Smaller, usb charging batteries with protection circuits, and refillable pods. Certainly way better than the older cigalikes, flexibility of using your own juice, and able to deliver enough nic to keep the smokes away. No blowing clouds, but if it's a question of staying off cigarettes they certainly can work and still provide way better flavor than a cigalike. There are folks on here with significant experience with them, and a whole pod system forum devoted to them on this site.

 

[Luke Wellington]

I just think it's crazy that they did no research before painting the product. Most of the injuries are a result of "improper battery storage" yet the batteries used (18650) are used in most of them flashlights used aboard anyways. Your official report is that there have only been 12 injuries, nine of them were because of improper battery storage, and three required "firefighting Equipment"

 

[Kprthevapr]

I just think it's crazy that they did no research before painting the product. Most of the injuries are a result of "improper battery storage" yet the batteries used (18650) are used in most of them flashlights used aboard anyways. Your official report is that there have only been 12 injuries, nine of them were because of improper battery storage, and three required "firefighting Equipment"

I drove a supply truck in the Navy. If I remember right, we could smoke everywhere but the flight line.
In the Navy you find ways around the rules
I can see some of the guys hot knifing vape juice

 

[Tony80]

Fog machine and a section of pipe?

 

[Luke Wellington]

I've been messing with some ideas and I figured out you could squeeze ejuice covered cotton in tweezers and insert it into a small metal tube and heat the tube around the cotton with a lighter. It works pretty well... like a vape crack pipe
I used the body of a metal pen that I sanded down to remove the coating
Practical? No.. does it work? Yes

 

[Tonee N]

My set up has an alternator. [emoji23]

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