The future of vaping
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Call me 'suspicious', 'cynical', or 'paranoid', but I've thought of another slant on BT's sudden "interest" in entering the PV arena. If I have more money than (insert your favorite deity here), and can afford to take a loss (which I can claim at tax time) in order to disrupt, demean, and destroy a fledgling industry which conflicts with my own interests...I might just consider "appearing" to jump into bed with it so that my "taint" will rub off on that industry and (hopefully) bring it down and out of my way.
"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" (Sun-tzu, a Chinese general and military strategist, 400 BC, The Art of War.)
He knew what he was talking about.
Again, I don't believe one can truly be victorious coming from a fearful place, an angry place, or a paranoid place. One must be clear-headed, calm, and direct, and know everything there is to know about the opponent and their stance if one is to uncover, then exploit, their weaknesses and lack of logic.
You are 100% correct. Well stated. But what really bothers me is all the vapers who come on here and state that vaping is the same as smoking and we should act like smokers and have no interest in joining CASAA or even taking the time to educate a neighbor. Vaping will definitely be banned or severally limited (sealed carts only in 2 - 4mg nic strength) if all vapers don't standup with CASAA and take an active interest in protecting the right to vape.
Alas, in all of life; there are leaders, there are followers, and there are those who sit on the sidewalk and watch the parade. I think the most we can do is get as many leaders and followers as we can, by educating people. And, of course, joining IN the parade ourselves.
I've found where there has finally been a study conducted by real scientist! True, they were funded by Flavorart, but from what I've read, they seem to have conducted an unbiased research into the effects of vaping to us as humans.
" Dr. Giorgio Romagna and Dr. Konstantinios Farsalinos will soon be making their presentations on the subject of electronic cigarettes.
Dr. Romagna, creator of the Clearstream Air and Clearstream Life projects, will be presenting the findings of both studies at the 14th Annual Meeting of the Society for Research on Nicotine and Tobacco (SRNT) Europe, being held August 30 – September 2 in Helsinki, Finland. Both Clearstream projects focus on the effects of electronic cigarettes and health.
Dr. Farsalinos wil be presenting his findings at the European society of Cardiology on August 25 in Munich, Germany. The Studies of Dr. Farsalinos focus on the effects of electronic cigarettes and myocardial function.
The studies of Drs. Romagna and Farsalinos have been peer reviewed ,and are expected to be released in scientific journals, following their presentation."
Both studies, compare traditional smoke with electronic cigarette vapor, but with different research goals: the individual and the community
Here's a link:
http://escapetheanalog.blogspot.com...howComment=1344060865224#c8884579570933457635
I'll personally be keeping an eye on this one. It sounds as if the results are going to be publicly released after September 5th.
" Dr. Giorgio Romagna and Dr. Konstantinios Farsalinos will soon be making their presentations on the subject of electronic cigarettes.
Dr. Romagna, creator of the Clearstream Air and Clearstream Life projects, will be presenting the findings of both studies at the 14th Annual Meeting of the Society for Research on Nicotine and Tobacco (SRNT) Europe, being held August 30 – September 2 in Helsinki, Finland. Both Clearstream projects focus on the effects of electronic cigarettes and health.
Dr. Farsalinos wil be presenting his findings at the European society of Cardiology on August 25 in Munich, Germany. The Studies of Dr. Farsalinos focus on the effects of electronic cigarettes and myocardial function.
The studies of Drs. Romagna and Farsalinos have been peer reviewed ,and are expected to be released in scientific journals, following their presentation."
Both studies, compare traditional smoke with electronic cigarette vapor, but with different research goals: the individual and the community
Here's a link:
http://escapetheanalog.blogspot.com...howComment=1344060865224#c8884579570933457635
I'll personally be keeping an eye on this one. It sounds as if the results are going to be publicly released after September 5th.
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Spoke too soon....and so it begins in the UK too :-(
Spoke too soon....and so it begins in the UK too :-(
Perhaps there needs to be an international organisation for campaigning. Might lend it more credibility.
Well I told my psychiatrist. He specialises in addiction and is one of the most senior doctors in the area in Europe, and also advises various national and international bodies on addiction issues. He thinks vaping is great, massively better than smoking and congratulated me on quitting. I said it was a doddle to quit smoking this way as vaping is more pleasurable, and he just gave me a massive grin and said "I am so pleased". Next time I see him I'll nag him to get some of his colleagues to get a research team going to work on it.
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Well, it's not international, but there is a CASAA for the UK. Here's a link.
ECCA UK - E-Cigarette Consumer Association of the UK
This is an amazing thread and an important cause for all vapors, present and future. I am now a proud member of CASAA thanks to the informed discussion of this thread. I'm really looking forward to raising public awareness in my little community. Thanks
Excellent. Thanks. When i've gottime I'll join up and suggest they affiliate with CASAA officially, perhaps under a loose umbrella organisation that is international where each national organisation is allowed to use the international name in their respective countries.
GOOOO MOGO!
And Imperator? Man, what can I say? YOU ROCK!
YOU might just be THE ONE to make us all an international organization! or atleast get the ball rolling! Excellent! And do keep in touch!!
And Imperator? Man, what can I say? YOU ROCK!
YOU might just be THE ONE to make us all an international organization! or atleast get the ball rolling! Excellent! And do keep in touch!!
What an excellent idea! I like!
We need as many professionals on our side as we can get. And those who have no ties to either the govement or us is very beneficial. That way no one can go naysaying about the studies and research they have put into it, as they have no vested interest in the outcome.
Thanks for posting this, I just signed up with CASAA and I'm gonna look into getting more active.
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