Vaping and oral health new study

[Caesar77]

vaping seems to be worse than tobacco regarding oral health.

Study:
Adverse effects of electronic cigarettes on the disease-naive oral microbiome

Article about the study:
Inflammatory Response Triggered by Vaping May Set the Stage for Gum Disease

 

[puffon]

Just the opposite findings from my dentist, on my oral health since switching to vaping 7 years ago.

 

[Caesar77]

Just the opposite findings from my dentist, on my oral health since switching to vaping 7 years ago.

May I ask you what flavors and what vg/pg percentages you vape? I'm glad your oral health is great.

 

[puffon]

May I ask you what flavors and what vg/pg percentages you vape? I'm glad your oral health is great.

25/75vg...mostly fruit, dessert flavors and unflavored...about 10ml per day, 6mg

 

[Beamslider]

I also have had the opposite experience. Improved gum health vs smoking.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I vape a lot
I'm not talking weed or salts
I vape the regular stuff

I vape a lot
And if you're a vaper too
You ought to know sometimes it's tough
To be in healthy company
People who always say
"You vape a lot".

"Imagine the amount of money you could save if you'd quit!"
"You vape a lot."
"By now you'd have a bike, aren't you concerned about the kids?"
Well, of course, sure am, concerned a bit
But about that bike, I could get killed with it
And is that what you really want?
(It's not)
So I vape a lot
I vape a lot
MY GOD, I vape a lot and I feel fine
and I feel fine
I vape a lot

I vape a lot
Sometimes it's great
Sometimes it's not
But I vape a lot

 

[Frenchfry1942]

My oral health has been better, too. Gums especially. I am grateful to vape.

 

[Twiggy1995]

As someone who eats a ton of candy, junk, and rarely brushes teeth, I don't really care, increased risk of gum disease, is not really that big of a concern, not like it's oral cancer.

 

[Caesar77]

As someone who eats a ton of candy, junk, and rarely brushes teeth, I don't really care, increased risk of gum disease, is not really that big of a concern, not like it's oral cancer.

.... is dangerous and can kill you if left untreated for enough time. Take care.

I also have had the opposite experience. Improved gum health vs smoking.

Glad your oral health is fine, it's all I'm gonna read here and I know it, no one will say anything bad about vaping in here, I just wanted to inform about the existence of this study, I found it enjoyable and interesting to read.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

no one will say anything bad about vaping in here,

This is pretty accurate for the most part.

 

[Letitia]

I didn't read the article but pretty sure nothing in our ingredients or gear parts can actually cause cancer. More likely the individual will simply get cancer with or without vaping habits. Same could be said of smokers that cancer that aren't related to smoking.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I didn't read the article but pretty sure nothing in our ingredients or gear parts can actually cause cancer. More likely the individual will simply get cancer with or without vaping habits. Same could be said of smokers that cancer that aren't related to smoking.

Well that may be true, but about the ingredients such as flavoring, they were never really meant to be inhaled as far as I know, and even if they don't cause cancer, they could possible cause some other health problem with long-term inhalation.

Not that I personally care. Even being straight-edge isn't going to guarantee a healthy existence or a "natural", painless death.

 

[Twiggy1995]

Let's put things in context, drinking alcohol is also not healthy, a lot of things are unhealthy.

Cigarette/Tobacco smoking is obviously on a far worse level of unhealthy.

I'd put vaping on the same level of unhealthy as sodas, or junk food, not cigarettes' for sure, or anything extremely bad.

Drink a lot of soda, often, your teeth won't be very good, all that acid, and all, not to mention increased risk of diabetes, and other diseases.

Drink a lot of alcohol often, your liver will be destroyed, and alcohol contributes to a lot of other very negative things, including cancer.

 

[mimöschen]

It's unhealthy to be alive. Every single day brings you one step closer to the grave.

Oh. Since I started vaping, my oral health increased significantly, even though I vape up to 25ml with a lot of different flavors per day.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

It's unhealthy to be alive.

Which is why I can't fully wrap my head around the fear of death.

Death appears to be the healthiest state one could achieve.

EDITED TO SAY: Come to think of it, that might be the end game.

 

[Uncle Willie]

Well, I've often wondered about over-using a coil .. sometimes, my wicks get pretty dark, yet it still tasted OK before changing ..

 

[puffon]

.... is dangerous and can kill you if left untreated for enough time. Take care.

Glad your oral health is fine, it's all I'm gonna read here and I know it, no one will say anything bad about vaping in here, I just wanted to inform about the existence of this study, I found it enjoyable and interesting to read.

It's been about 6 months since your last post about this.
Vaping and Oral Health
Let us know if your oral health has changed since your last 6 month check up.

 

[440BB]

Although this study is in regards to oral health, they jump to this conclusion in their Discussion section (bolded by me):

E-cigarettes are being promoted for their harm reduction potential, and some evidence suggests that they might be effective smoking cessation aids (39). However, as our data demonstrate, the risk-for-harm from e-cigarettes is different from, but not less than, conventional cigarettes.

How can the comparison of lung cancer and gum disease harm be seen as equals? This statement indicates ignorance or bias.

 

[Twiggy1995]

Although this study is in regards to oral health, they jump to this conclusion in their Discussion section (bolded by me):


How can the comparison of lung cancer and gum disease harm be seen as equals? This statement indicates ignorance or bias.

Traditional cigarettes also cause far more health problems than just lung cancer. I don't think anyone ever claimed vaping is completely harmless, just significantly less harmful. It's not the same as completely harmless.

For now, I would suggest taking all studies like these with a grain of salt, there are also many medical professionals and organizations praising e-cigarettes, and some even running their own stores because they see the massive benefit to smokers.

Also, shouldn't a post like this be in the "Health, Safety, and Vaping" sub-section of the "Health and Medical" section of the forum?

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Also, shouldn't a post like this be in the "Health, Safety, and Vaping" sub-section of the "Health and Medical" section of the forum?

@classwife will likely move it soon. OP started a very similar thread 6 months ago and it was eventually moved to the Health forum.