Vaping around kids???

[Maestro]

I have to agree with sailorman on this one. Educating and molding a child's character is the parent's job, not mine and not the government's. I already did it with mine and asked for no help from anyone. Children are going to be exposed to a lot worse than the sight of someone vaping and hiding it does nothing except make it intriguing. Children need to be TAUGHT, not shielded. I admit it's more work, which is why parents insisting that the world do the job for them is more popular.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I was the type of smoker that would always try to conceal my cigarettes when kids (0-17) were around, but now I also try to conceal my ecig. I think ecigs, as a general rule of thumb, are more intriguing and mysterious, so I am pretty vigilant with trying to not "advertise" nicotine consumption in any way that could be construed as "cool".

Anybody with me on this?

I am re-posting my original post because people are clearly not reading what I wrote.

To all that "agree" with either me, Mr.Mann, or sailorman, we have settled our dispute through personal messaging and he and I both understand where each other was coming from, and the validity of the others point. So, the whole --my point vs his point-- is over!

 

[Mr.Mann]

If you would like to keep this thread going, then have at it. I am moving on...but, to reiterate, sailorman and I have NO quarrel or difference in opinion, necessarily.


Mr.Mann

 

[erictho]

what i read from your op/re-post, is that the mere carrying out of an action by an adult makes it inherently "cool". as if adults only did "cool" things, and for no other motivation. i don't understand why you would need to completely conceal "bad" things. as i've said in other threads, adults make choices to do certain things and carry out certain habits, it's not shameful.
if childhood were infused with a little bit of adulthood, ie. education and communication, then perhaps they would be overall better off.
either way i usually wouldn't touch threads like this with a stick, especially when there's agitation over opinion sharing. this time i felt the need to pipe in since discussion in this thread will vary greatly, as we all vary greatly in how we live our lives. to keep this thread going i think maybe everyone needs to approach this topic with more mindfulness towards the motivation we all have in leading our lives the way we do.

 

[thatguyjeff]

I never hid my smoking from my kids - or any others. My kids are 6 and 1.5 btw. I was conscious of my smoke - never smoked in the house, car with kids, and when out in public I would remove myself from crowded spaces when kids were around where possible so they would have to breathe/smell it.

My thought is I'm an adult who is enjoying a legal activity. Smoking is a choice and some adults have a right to make an informed decision and all that. I would always tell my son that smoking can be harmful and that kids should never ever smoke. When asked why I smoked, I just told him that I enjoyed smoking. Some people choose to do it, some don't.

Same story with the vaping, except now I do it in the house, car, etc. When I switched, got a million and one questions from my son. It's really complicated to get some of these points across to little kids. But I think he gets the main idea - vaping, even though it looks just like smoking is different and is not harmful. But like smoking, it's a choice adults make and not kids.

So far, there's only been one catch. He really likes the smell of my watermelon flavor. He says it smells just like candy. I don't want him associating vaping with candy. We'll have to see how that develops.

 

[kwalka]

I have 4 under 12.... We just had outlaws, oh no wait, I mean inlaws visiting for the past week, and our great grandmother just couldn't grasp the notion that it wasn't smoke. So I had the idea to exhale a great big cloud on her hand. She got it at that point. I said think fog machine meets asthma inhaler.
Anyway my 2 oldest get it and are very happy I made the switch. They were a big part of me making the move. But your right the little ones just dont get it. They still cough as if its smoke. Not that I ever smoked around them, but you know how it goes every now and then when outside somebody downwind would get a bit of blowby, if you will.

 

[Andy Thatcher]

I have 4 under 12.... We just had outlaws,

Perfectly correct term. Been down here and met mine then.

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[Algernon]

I find it almost ironic.

You shouldn't smoke around young children, but even if they wanted to, I could see it hard for a child to get ahold of a cigarette to mimic the act. I also see it as impossible that they would get support from anyone to commit the act being that they are young children and no one in their right mind is going to contribute to the child smoking just to cure curiosity.

I believe the same applies to vaping as well, but even moreso. I have a cousin-in-law that is around 8 years old ask me if he could try my GLV about two months after I started vaping. I told him, "No, kiddo. The same rules that apply to cigarettes also apply to this.". There is literally no way he can go off and vape because none exist in the family aside from me.

On the subject of second-hand smoke and vapor, yeah... I wouldn't smoke around kids. It's still unhealthy for them.

Vapor, on the other hand. While it may seed an idea that they might want to try it later in life. It's not as if they won't know about it anyway. They will learn about it at some point way before adolescence. It's also no harm to anyone, even you, the person vaping. The only harm it could do is ruin a movie if blown in plain view of the audience.

Edit: To add to this, in the future, I don't think it would be an issue for minors to vape. I can't think of any conceivable reason that any minor couldn't or shouldn't aside from nicotine consumption which by that time would be regulated anyway if we're lucky and we aren't banned.

If they really are as healthy and better for us as we preach, then it can and will do the same harm to a minor, which is none. I also see it as healthier for them and their image. Rather than standing on a street corner, ruining their lungs to pick up girls and create an image with cigarettes illegally, have them stand on a corner and promote a healthier alternative legally. No one is standing in a street yelling not to give children BB or pellet guns because it might promote domestic violence and weapon interest. I hope vaping dips into this realm in the future as well. It will be as common as chewing gum.

 

[yankeebobo]

Most kids, obviously especially those that want you to quit smoking, are thrilled to see vaping instead. Kids you've never met before may be tagging it as smoking. And some parents don't understand the concept so the stigma will always be there. Me? I don't care. If I want a vape, I vape. Malls in my area are beginning to ban cigarettes even on their lots. That INCLUDES vaping. I'll walk in and vape during my walk. Oh well.

 

[Stormlark]

I've been having some trouble recently when vaping around my nephew. He's nine years old and makes a big deal about it whenever he sees me vaping, saying that it's bad for his health and I shouldn't be doing it inside, and am I trying to kill him with cancer? I've tried explaining how it's different than smoking, and not vaping when he's around, but due to family unrest, he now stays with my parents most of the time. I spend almost every evening at their house taking care of my mother who has muscular dystrophy. It's a stressful ordeal, with my mother often threatening suicide and crying because she's in so much pain. I vape more over there than anywhere else. With my nephew around, I'll try to vape in another room, but he'll come in, wave his hands back and forth, scrunch up his nose and complain about the smell, then start coughing like crazy, which gets my parents worried. I love the little guy but sometimes I want to strangle him too.