Vaping at Walmart

[Danrogers]

i think it is about time someone in authority closes this thread down, this subject has been thrashed out till it is dead, and now name calling, come on guys!

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I started vaping because it's not smoke.

I started vaping to save money and found I liked it much better than smoking anyway.

 

[MaxwellPink]

Also, can we ban Axe and most perfumes indoors? that would be great....

This.

If I have to endure your "eau my gods" you can put up with my occasional indoor puff.

 

[Ou2mame]

There's a big difference between a body spray and a multi chemical vapor. And even if you really think all perfume, cologne and body spray should be banned, or if you don't want to be forced to smell it, how does that validate your vaping indoors around people who may not want to be inhaling it?

 

[Lessifer]

There's a big difference between a body spray and a multi chemical vapor. And even if you really think all perfume, cologne and body spray should be banned, or if you don't want to be forced to smell it, how does that validate your vaping indoors around people who may not want to be inhaling it?

Yes, one usually has far fewer ingredients and is intended to dissipate, the other doesn't even list ingredients, and is intended to linger.

It doesn't validate it, it expresses the point that you don't have the right to control the actions of others simply because you find them unpleasant.

 

[Ou2mame]

But why would you make an unpleasant environment on purpose if your intention is to continue to use the device, I guess is my question.. You're basically saying I want the right to purchase and use this device, so I'm going to make an unpleasant experience for others with it.

 

[Lessifer]

But why would you make an unpleasant environment on purpose if your intention is to continue to use the device, I guess is my question.. You're basically saying I want the right to purchase and use this device, so I'm going to make an unpleasant experience for others with it.

It is not anyone's intention to make an unpleasant environment. Maybe I don't spend enough time in Walmart? Are people actually sitting around vaping, or are they passing through doing their shopping and taking the occasional puff?

I often see the comparison to a vape shop, and yes vape shops get foggy, because people are sitting there, often sampling flavors, trying gear, or showing off. I expect the volume of vapor to be much higher from a group of vapers in a small space intentionally filling the air with vapor than even 20 vapers randomly making their way through Walmart taking the occasional puff.

I'm saying I want the right to purchase and use this device, when I feel I want to, as long as it isn't harming anyone else.

 

[Ou2mame]

But that's the thing, you don't care if you make an unpleasant environment for other shoppers, and you just list other unpleasant things to excuse the unpleasant environment you may be creating. It's not a good advertisement for vaping to do it in stores. I'm obviously against banning it in personal apartments or cars or whatever, but the last thing I want is for everyone to all run to their local stores and start vaping inside because that's not going to promote anything that any of us want. Your theory that it's not harming or bothering only works when only you're doing it.

 

[stevegmu]

There's quite a difference between one wearing a body spray, cologne or perfume, and walking around spraying it in the store at every step...

 

[Kloudz]

Wal-Mart sucks plain and simple, I have to have a shot of pure moonshine to walk in there while being on Percocets. Then when the other people I there drive me nuts and I begin to think that I'm the winner in the genetic lottery I slowly bust out my ipv3 matched with the mutation x dripper and shoot massive clouds into the air.

 

[Lessifer]

But that's the thing, you don't care if you make an unpleasant environment for other shoppers, and you just list other unpleasant things to excuse the unpleasant environment you may be creating. It's not a good advertisement for vaping to do it in stores. I'm obviously against banning it in personal apartments or cars or whatever, but the last thing I want is for everyone to all run to their local stores and start vaping inside because that's not going to promote anything that any of us want. Your theory that it's not harming or bothering only works when only you're doing it.

Here's the thing, I actually do care, I am as considerate in person as I am online. If I were noticeably making someone uncomfortable with my vaping, I would probably stop. If someone asked me to, I definitely would. I also don't take a puff at every step, I use too high nicotine to do that.

You say you're not for bans in residences, cars, etc. but the thing is, there is no distinction. If you accept an indoor ban in stores just because some people find it unpleasant, you have no room to argue against other indoor bans. Instead, if you ask for an actual harm or encroachment on the rights of others, then there has to be a justification for the ban. Falling into the mindset of "they're right, I don't want to smell your vapor either" doesn't do us any favors.

 

[skoony]

It's not really about hiding it away like we are ashamed or it's bad... It's about respect. Vaping has became pretty mainstream at this point. I remember when I first started it was like "Oh my god what is that thing?" when people saw my e-cig. Now it's just another thing. Even when I chuck a cloud with my sig 150 in a parking lot now it hardly gets a look anymore. I might get another person that asks me about it, but it's because they are a vapor and they want to compare gear. It's not because they don't know what I'm doing like it used to be. Educating people about vaping doesn't require a demonstration.

respect has nothing to do with it.
its called common courtesy.
that's another thread though.
regards
mike

 

[skoony]

This is a joke right? If not I hope it is sarcastic. You're thinking is the reason they are passing all these bills. Please stop vaping because you are going to ruin it for the rest of us, do you not get that or are you that simple and don't care about other people. You have obviously have this false sense of entitlement, get a grip your the problem in our group, you want to ruin it for the rest of us don't you

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the reason they are passing all these bills is because they can.
it is because people believe they actually know how other people
are going to react and feel towards something they have never
been exposed to because everyone seems to think we should skulk
around the corner outside and hide from public view.
think of the chillin'.
regards
mike

 

[LouisLeBeau]

I advocate taking tiny puffs, and trying to breathe out nothing or as close as possible, in the way of vapor. Anywhere and everywhere that it has not explicitly been banned. Not only do I get to enjoy my nicotine and flavor, but it bolsters the image that 1.) It is not banned therefore it is permissible. 2.) It can be done without being offensive or obnoxious to others. 3.) It allows people to get used to the sight of others doing it.

This way, when politicians want to kill it, it enhances the chance that NON vapers will not only not find reason to support them, but will support our assertion that if it doesn't bother anyone, leave it alone.

 

[skoony]

as far as vaping in public is concerned it has become like most things in our modern nanny
state.
move next to the airport.complain about the noise.get tax breaks.
don't like the smell from the brewery that's been there for over
100 years,brewery spends a ton of of money for equipment at great cost.
people still complain. brewery shuts down.
build a new suburb out in the country. complain about the
smell from the pigs farm you could see when you bought
the house. pig farmer forced out through eminent domain.
then there's that hot sauce factory.commercial bakery and
that sickening sweet smell.moved to industrial park.
the one that's my all time favorite. stop the church bells
from Saint Pauls historic Cathedral as its most annoying
and forces religion down peoples throats.
true stories,all but the hot sauce one happened here.
the only thing that didn't pass was silencing the bells
completely.
now we have a waft of vapor that may not even annoy anyone.
but 'we don't know' because it can't be allowed.
regards
mike

 

[WillyZee]

Enjoy your indoor vaping while you can ... indoor vaping is never going to become mainstream.


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[Nightly_Paradox]

I've never had an issue at all with it an theres a few people who run around with 150w box mods blowing biggger clouds then i could out of my eleaf just casually shopping. I walked by the manager and he ended up giving me a "thumbs up" after our little talk.

 

[Thespis]

I vape lots of places and nobody ever notices because next to nothing comes out. Am I hurting the cause too?
Why don't we have real discussions anymore? Why is it that one is so enamored with their own point of view, that they take the other fella's point to the extreme in an attempt to demonize him for simply daring to disagree?
I think this inability to listen to a dissenting view without looking for the opportunity to attack has greatly lowered the quality of government. No politician can honestly state what they believe for fear of saying the wrong thing and in a ten second sound byte, ruining any chance of election. We elect mediocrity which is easily led by those with money. We have to learn to listen to each other again, and stop letting media get in the middle to tell us how bad the other guy is.
Off my soapbox...

 

[ReigntheGamer]

I bought some Axe and $3 cologne today just for yall.

 

[Moonlitwish]

I don't usually vape indoors except at my house or other indoor smoker/vaper homes. But when I do, it's just light wisps of vapor right in front of my face that are gone when I turn around in an empty aisle. The only person that even sees me is 20+feet away or in the security room and I highly doubt they can even see it because it's so thin. This is the way I do it at work. It's no more noxious than the chemicals leaching out of the carpet into the air. Even if everyone in Walmart was vaping like that, there would not be a fog. Like most things in life, discretion is key. I would never blow my normal clouds in an indoor public place unless it was expressly allowed. We can vape politely in public. My vote is that we do it. The more people that realize "hey, that really isn't smoke" the better off we will be.


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