Vaping in Wal-Mart.

[jvapor]

I just ordered the Blu as my first, and was explaining to my manager ( i work at wal-mart, and I get chewed out for smoking outside in our "corall", a part of our garden center separate from the main building where we load softener salt and mulch and whatnot, because we're not supposed to smoke on the clock and they're just as anti-smokeless tobacco) and I got the reaction i expected: not on the clock. Which trips me out as every single one of my manager's smokes. i also fully expect to not be able to get away with it as a customer as I can be reprimanded for things occurring on my time as well. Flippin wal-mart .

You may not want to test the waters but you could always ghost vape. I don't know how much you know yet but ghost vaping is just holding in the vapor until there is nothing when you exhale. You can also get something like an eraser topper to cover the LED and no one will even suspect what it is.

 

[SlimXero]

It's really irritating to continue reading posts from nOOOBs that seem to take on a 'I CAN DO THIS - In your face' - or even 'I'm ready for my argument' attitude.

That was not my attitude whatsoever, I was merely expressing discontent with the fact that management won't even consider it. That is hardly being a "nOOOB" as you so kindly put it and being an ... by blowing vapor in other's faces. It'd be nice if you'd remember that you were a "nOOOB" too, at one point. With an elitist attitude like that, I hardly think you are in a position to criticize others.

jvapor: i still plan to sneak it, same as my smokes, but those are excellent tips, thank you so much .

 

[jvapor]

I'm confused....
We are (as a group) attempting to be accepted as we choose to vape where smoking is not allowed.
Why would anyone find it necessary to blow clouds of vape everywhere just to get attention? (or prove you can)

It's easy to vape and hold the vapor so that little if anything goes out on the exhale.

It's really irritating to continue reading posts from nOOOBs that seem to take on a 'I CAN DO THIS - In your face' - or even 'I'm ready for my argument' attitude.

For gosh sakes people think for just a minute and take a look at the legalities and restrictions in process of being adopted at everything from the local to national level.

There's nothing anywhere that specifically gives you the 'right' to vape in public places. And there is nothing that specifically takes that right away.

Every single one of us who chooses to vape around others needs to realize that our actions AND attitudes are helping people form opinions about P/V's.

I'd just as soon have people accept this 'habit' knowing that it is my choice - and I honor others by not affecting them.

BTW - I've vaped at the bank, the Doctor's office, Walmart, grocery stores, the library and anyplace else I go.
No ONE has ever had a problem with it - and I wouldn't think of giving them any reason to.

Wake up folks - YOUR attitude and behavior will play a part in how society DOES or does not choose to accept Vaping. The government will do the law part of it - public opinion can be in our favor if we vape responsibly and with respect to others.
Peace

Alternative to Smoking?

30 years of smoking...
Vaporized by my ScrewDriver!

I respect that view Sour. However, I do not go out flaunting that I can vape anywhere but I do not hide the fact that I vape. I have a clean conscience about vaping. I am always willing to explain the ecig / personal vaporizer to anyone who has questions. I would rather people learn about it from me first and know the truth rather than wait for them to learn about them from a tainted source. It is through these actions that I believe vapors will be accepted in society. I believe the "I can do this" attitude is common for a great deal of vapors as part of their enthusiasm from breaking away from the demonetization associated with analogs. I'm not saying it couldn't have negative effects but the truth of the matter is that at the moment we are free to do this. This is what makes us Americans. We should embrace our freedoms and use them. Not through them away voluntarily.

 

[souporvapor]

Kewl - Hey Slim
you thought I was referring to your post why?

My reference was to the fact that it's usually 'noobs' (and forgive my elitist attitude here) who post how they 'excercise their rights' by making a big deal out of something that can be simply done without anyone else even seeing vapor.

and then there was the guy with 20 posts who walked into Starbucks and basically engulfed the counter and employee is vapor.....claiming 'you can't stop me'
sure - that's the way to make a GREAT impression -
and totally unecessary if all you really want is your nicotine.

30 years of smoking....
Vaporized by my ScrewDriver!

 

[SlimXero]

Kewl - Hey Slim
you thought I was referring to your post why?

My reference was to the fact that it's usually 'noobs' (and forgive my elitist attitude here) who post how they 'excercise their rights' by making a big deal out of something that can be simply done without anyone else even seeing vapor.

and then there was the guy with 20 posts who walked into Starbucks and basically engulfed the counter and employee is vapor.....claiming 'you can't stop me'
sure - that's the way to make a GREAT impression -
and totally unecessary if all you really want is your nicotine.

30 years of smoking....
Vaporized by my ScrewDriver!

My apologies, perhaps I am too defensive

 

[Nepenthy]

Awesome news! Now I can let my naked baby crawl around on the floor, make out with my .... head girlfriend in the middle of the isle, scream the F bomb at my kids, punch my wife in the parking lot, AND vape at the same time!

Seriously though, it is cool when we find places where they dont mind us vaping. I vaped in a movie theatre the other day while checking out district 9, awesome movie by the way. I was sitting in the back and there were only a handfull of people there anyway. I was exhaling towards the floor but I think some vapor was making it up into the air as this dude kept coming in and looking around, then leaving. Hehe

 

[souporvapor]

And there is no research to say that there is absolutely nothing in the exhaled vape that could in anyway affect someone else.
NO - I'm not being obtuse here - just realistic.

People are allergic to all kinds of things - and I'm not sure how there can be absolutely no trace of anything but 'water vapor' in what we exhale.

Yes - excercise our 'rights' - but the argument has been made in the past that there is nothing that gives us a right to 'vape' in public.
Yes - it is my 'belief' and apparently yours - that 'we can do this' - is that expressly written anywhere?

Again - this discussion has been approached many times.

I am not saying - 'hide it' - I am extremely active in helping to educate others.
(web page with links and printable copy...... those were created to assist others in educating)
Alternative to Smoking?

Anyway - we all get to decide our part in this. Remembering that not everyone can even comprehend (duh I know they not bee too smart - but it's the reality of society/humanity) the difference between smoke and vapor.

I couldn't tell you how many people I've talked to have absolutely no ability to even begin to understand there is a difference.

It's not about conforming to ignorant opinion - it's about assisting in creating intelligent understanding and acceptance.

30 years of smoking...
Vaporized by my ScrewDriver!

 

[TheLizinator]

Well, I've vaped in Walmart, Target, Saks, Bloomingdales, Nordies and various grocery stores. I don't think anyone knew about it, but I think I'm still paranoid after being a diehard smoker. I vape into my sleeve and tend to only do it when I'm alone in an aisle. The last thing I want is a confrontation--I'm just so glad I can take a long, leisurely shopping trip and not have to feel nicotine gnawing away at me for a fix.

 

[azvagabond]

I had to rquest more buciness cards from Steve @ V4L cause everywhere I go, someone wants to order.

 

[matt112981]

I'm confused....
We are (as a group) attempting to be accepted as we choose to vape where smoking is not allowed.
Why would anyone find it necessary to blow clouds of vape everywhere just to get attention? (or prove you can)

It's easy to vape and hold the vapor so that little if anything goes out on the exhale.

It's really irritating to continue reading posts from nOOOBs that seem to take on a 'I CAN DO THIS - In your face' - or even 'I'm ready for my argument' attitude.

For gosh sakes people think for just a minute and take a look at the legalities and restrictions in process of being adopted at everything from the local to national level.

There's nothing anywhere that specifically gives you the 'right' to vape in public places. And there is nothing that specifically takes that right away.

Every single one of us who chooses to vape around others needs to realize that our actions AND attitudes are helping people form opinions about P/V's.

I'd just as soon have people accept this 'habit' knowing that it is my choice - and I honor others by not affecting them.

BTW - I've vaped at the bank, the Doctor's office, Walmart, grocery stores, the library and anyplace else I go.
No ONE has ever had a problem with it - and I wouldn't think of giving them any reason to.

Wake up folks - YOUR attitude and behavior will play a part in how society DOES or does not choose to accept Vaping. The government will do the law part of it - public opinion can be in our favor if we vape responsibly and with respect to others.
Peace

I'm not sure if you were referring to me, but when I said "argument" I didn't mean a hostile ,aggresive exchange of words, but merely my/our views on vaping. I don't feel like I should have to hide anything until if/when they ban it , as smoking was banned from one establishment after another until finally you couldn't smoke in a bar or for example outside at the beach in Florida where I live!!I am just elated to be able to vape in a store and I can't help it if my JS produces a mighty vapor. The nasty comments I recieved and I am sure we have all recieved from time to time from non-smoking people when we smoked our analogs, in designated smoking areas mind you, has maybe left me a bit jaded and bitter and I am glad that I can vape around all the "good" non smoking men and women of this great country.
As far as your reference to post count , I am not sure how relevant that is as a barometer of a persons general knowledge or intelligence, maybe you just have more free time than I do in which to post.
I am not downing you or your post I understand your point and it was a good one, it's just that it had a "holier than thou" tone to it and it rubbed a few people the wrong way apparently. Other than that you sound extremely well informed and I am sure good intentioned.

Happy Vaping
-Matt

 

[stevo_tdo]

My wife works at walmart and has not been told to stop so far. She works in photo and occasionally sneeks the vape. Thank god my town does not believe the fda propoganda, everyone is supportive and many of her fellow employees have switched over too.

 

[imadreamer2]

I have vaped in WalMart and not a glance, but I don't make a big deal out of it and do it discreetly.

In the supermarket I was doing it and the manager came over to ask it that was one of those e-cigs. Told him yes he commented that it looked different than the big ones they tried to get them to sell. I am pretty sure he was referring to the Ruyan disposable since they are all over town. Mine was a black 901 with the blue led. I think they must have spent 10 minutes talking to me about it.

Then in my favorite restaurant and I talked to the owner, he was not the least bit surprised as I was not the first. Again I was discreet but the ones who saw didn't seem to phase at all. Tried it in a couple of other restaurants too with no looks. Again I don't flaunt it, just take a vape every once in a while.


Forgot I have done it discreetly at Home Depot, Menards, Wallace Garden Center and Lowes and no one commented let along noticed.


Now where I work, I can't. We sell the disposable, that is when we get them, and the customer can vape them but we can't. They aren't paying us to vape. LOL.

 

[souporvapor]

Please accept this as my public apology for what sometimes comes across as
'holier than thou' attitude.
We're all in this together - and I guess sometimes I misinterpret what other people mean by what they write.....
because I truly believe vaping is saving my lungs... and possibly my life
no ifs, ands or BUTTS about it!

30 years of smoking....
Vaporized by my ScrewDriver!

 

[matt112981]

Please accept this as my public apology for what sometimes comes across as
'holier than thou' attitude.
We're all in this together - and I guess sometimes I misinterpret what other people mean by what they write.....
because I truly believe vaping is saving my lungs... and possibly my life
no ifs, ands or BUTTS about it!

30 years of smoking....
Vaporized by my ScrewDriver!

No apology necessary, no problems, no worries. I am ecstatic about possibly saving myself and family from lung cancer!
It is hard to express ones self through type, so tones are sometimes the readers interpretation.

Vape Away!

 

[Webby]

I've always made a point to ask when in a confined space (bar, elevator, etc.) if "anyone minded if I used my e-cigarette" It's an interesting ice breaker and I almost always end up passing out cards...

That said, the one of the few times I was asked not to vape was at Six Flags Over Georgia. The security guard was nice enough and he made a good point. He was neither enthralled nor replulsed by my 510, but matter of factly pointed out, "if others see you they'll think they can smoke all over the park too"

It made perfect sense and I vaped more discretely while I was there. When I smoked analogs, I was a respectful smoker and I see no difference with e-cigs.

Don't start none, won't be none.

 

[ShortyBoo]

I've vaped in Wal-Mart multiple times, but so far, I don't think anyone has noticed at all. I started vaping almost a month ago, and I've vaped in lots of stores (McDonald's, Aldi, Target, the mall) and so far no one's ever said anything or even really noticed me at all. I haven't seen anyone else vaping where I live yet, so I'm not sure why I'm able to go unnoticed. The only time I did end up getting attention for it was at a party at my brother's in-laws' (everyone at the party was a smoker) and several people were asking about what it was and how much it costs and where to get them. Luckily, I had business cards from the place I ordered from in my purse, so I was handing those out.

 

[Vapo]

I'd just like to make the comment that your rights have nothing to do with what is written into law. There are a great many of your rights - self evident rights, apparently, endowed by our creator (or if you're an atheist you can substitute that for endowed by common sense) which are currently infringed upon or completely removed by laws. None of those rights hold absolute anymore, as they were meant to. There are exceptions, work-arounds, a thousand different ways for gov't to get around the inconvenience that is inalienable rights. And that's the thing; the literature of our constitution called it that specifically; inalienable. That means that, when that document was written it was the intent that those rights would never be broached for any reason, most especially not the convenience of the government.

Being American is about knowing your rights, not about keeping up with which ones the legislature hasn't taken away. Engaging in any consumption of substances which does not physically harm others is MOST CERTAINLY within your rights, no matter what the law says (and don't kid yourself, it won't be long before nicoteine solution is right up there with many other mostly harmless chemicals on Schedule One, though they'll keep the schedule for chemical treated tobacco lower so they can keep celling analogs). Not trying to be revolutionary here or anything, I'm just saying remember what your rights are, what rights are guaranteed to you as an American and as a human being, inalienable rights which no piece of legislation can take away. We're moving very quickly towards a world where you have no rights, or only a very limited set in very limited circumstances, and we all need to be awake when we get there so that we can see the problem and act upon it. It has long since become obvious that this trend won't be reversed through our rotten system of "representatives" who are already sold to the highest bidder before they ever reach their offices.

Oh, and I used to work at wal-mart as well, they had a smoking section back then. I also had me a little spot on the shelves in the garden center (where I worked) where I kept a clear alcove amongst the boxes stored on the shelves outside so I could grab a quick smoke now and then. It was like my own little tree-house except made of boxes of grills and bags of dirt rather than wood hehe.

 

[Vapo]

Oh and of course there is some second hand vapor, that goes without saying. The main thing is it isn't harmful; even second hand smoke is only called harmful on dubious evidence. That is to say, yes, you can be exposed to carcinogens and such through second hand smoke. If you look at the actual tolerable exposure levels, however, you will find that to be harmed by second hand smoke you'd have to be in a completely sealed postage-stamp sized room packed shoulder to shoulder with people lighting up one cigarrette another for eight hours a day for years before you'd get up to the levels of exposure which could cause cancer or any of the other serious debilitating side-effects of smoking cigarettes.

Osha did a study a while back to that effect; some anti-smoking group tried to get them to put into place unilateral bans on smoking in public spaces and then withdrew their suit when OSHA would have been forced to report its findings and in fact recommend LOOSER bans on smoking than were already in effect at local levels. The whole second hand smoke thing is just a bogeyman in the first place, like so many other causes out there, a reason for idiots to have a cause and for smarter folks to consolidate power/money and to attack products which are contrary to their own economic benefit.

With second hand smoke being mostly a joke, I'd say the chances of harming someone through secondhand vaping are exactly nil.

 

[EXSNUFFUSER]

I have to say I have that my girlfriend and I both have vaped our Silver Bullets in Walmart alot and we havent had a thing said to us.

 

[Ariel]

I vape in Wal-mart (among other places). Generally just as a stealth thing, though, when nobody else is in the aisle. I've been getting braver about vaping in grocery stores, restaurants, coffee shops, etc.

In the store, if I'm wearing a shirt with pockets, I'll just stash my PV and juice supply in there, and it's a simple matter of whipping it out, *vape*, and stash it back. No big deal.

In Wal-mart, especially when there's lots of screaming kids, it's the only way I can really survive the longer shopping trips.