Vaping Banned at Work!

Status
Not open for further replies.

Keiwie

Full Member
Verified Member
Apr 4, 2013
44
28
United States
They recently decided to ban tobacco use on all school property at my school, including vaping. I understand the ban on the analogs because it smells and people have health issues and such, but ban vaping?!?!? For real?!?!? No matter, I just walk around vaping still and if I'm told not to, I do the ninja vape technique. And they are none the wiser. Honestly, there has been no proof that vaping is detrimental to the vapee and those around him/her, so why can't they just leave us alone. All we are doing is either getting off analogs, or doing what we enjoy to do, or both!! Either way, it all seems like a bunch of stupid poo that a bunch of people who have never done their research are making rules and regulations. Especially at college where research is key. Meh. I'll just continue to be the rebel I am and vape on like a champ.
 

O'Face

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 27, 2013
116
46
49
Indianapolis, IN USA
I work in construction, and get the usual ?'s when I pull out my ecigs. It's odd to me, but I never have seen anyone using one on site to this day. The few (mostly close family and friends) I have helped convert, do not work in my line of business. Smoking has been dead on construction sites for the past few years. Every where you turn they put up new signs pushing you farther and farther from your workplace just to puff on an analog. I quit for my health, and my children, and to save money (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA save money;)) Anyway, as it pertains to this particular thread, I am not forced to stealth tape my ecigs. I would assume (dangerous I know) that as more of us in my field convert that I will be forced to learn how to not enjoy watching the massive clouds coming from my set up. :(
 

EddardinWinter

The Philosopher Who Rides
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 13, 2012
8,866
28,169
Richmond, Va
Fortunately I work from home. I did however run into a problem at the school my husband teaches at. Apparently (according to the principal) I am not allowed to vape sitting in MY car in the parking lot while waiting for my husband. Smoking however is fine. Her reasoning? My ego-C battery with a CE5 on it looked too much like a crack pipe.

They permit smoking, but no vaping? Shocking and incomprehensible. So you are outdoors on public property and you cannot use a legal product for its intended use, all because the principle doesn't like the way it looks. I do understand correctly, right? There is no law or policy prohibiting this activity, it is just the opinion of the public employee whose salary you pay with your taxes.

Well, I know you are in a tight spot. What can you do? Your hubby works there so you have to temper your response. No matter what you would like to do, you kinda just have to grin and bear it to support your husband.

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to tell principle big britches, "why don't you come and take it from me, if you think you can." If I was in your town, I would do it for you, just to see the look on that bloated bureaucrat's face...

Happy vaping.
 

Mountain_Rain96

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Mar 23, 2013
676
763
62
Atlanta Ga.
I had a similar experience. Converted ten of my coworkers to vaping and we respectfully used the PVs at our desks for six months. After six months apparently some of the non smokers complained to HR about smelling strawberries and waffles, vaping is now restricted to the smoking areas. Unfortunately without the convenience of being able to use them inside half my converts eventually went back to cigarettes. Its sad. The company will ultimately lose money from these employees taking additional sick days because of their short sighted and uneducated decision.

Strawberries and waffles!? Oh noes, not THAT! 8-o

Some people...:facepalm:
 

Myrany

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 14, 2013
8,477
44,353
Louisiana
They permit smoking, but no vaping? Shocking and incomprehensible. So you are outdoors on public property and you cannot use a legal product for its intended use, all because the principle doesn't like the way it looks. I do understand correctly, right? There is no law or policy prohibiting this activity, it is just the opinion of the public employee whose salary you pay with your taxes.

Well, I know you are in a tight spot. What can you do? Your hubby works there so you have to temper your response. No matter what you would like to do, you kinda just have to grin and bear it to support your husband.

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to tell principle big britches, "why don't you come and take it from me, if you think you can." If I was in your town, I would do it for you, just to see the look on that bloated bureaucrat's face...

Happy vaping.

Well I started taking that old KR808D I have when I know I have to sit in the parking lot (even has a red led at the end). I get the satisfaction that I am still vaping and she hasn't said a word.
 

EddardinWinter

The Philosopher Who Rides
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 13, 2012
8,866
28,169
Richmond, Va
Well I started taking that old KR808D I have when I know I have to sit in the parking lot (even has a red led at the end). I get the satisfaction that I am still vaping and she hasn't said a word.

Sometimes a direct assault works. Sometimes, you have to outwit and outlast them. Nice.
 

muzichead

Resident Knucklehead
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 7, 2011
5,281
13,882
Illinois
It sucks to have to be back outside with the rest of those lepers!

It feels so redundant..

"oh no it smells like delicious waffles in here..out with ye knave! "

Salt to the wounds SB 648 was voted favorably in Sacramento, CA recently - hopefully it gets clogged up in the good ol' American Justice System!

Please keep in mind here, what smells like waffles and lemon drops to you doesn't necessarily smell the same to others around you!! I myself, being a vaper for over 2 years now, can't stand the smell of a majority of juices being vaped today. I find that the worse the aroma, the longer it seems to linger in the room. I am sure they feel the same way, and that is why your policy was changed!

The most important thing here is "WE", (as vapers), can't continue to give the opposition any ammunition in the fight to be able to vape anywhere we want. Education is the key to our side of the fight! Too many people push the boundaries which could lead to a major loss for us in our community. As we have seen with recent bills and propositions, it could be sooner than expected....
 

pdxtechdoctor

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 16, 2013
182
75
pdxtechdoctor
People like to talk big, and get all puffed up and say things like "I'll do what I want, when I want, where I want", but no, no you won't. Education, not confrontation, is what we need.

Exactly. I see the I can vape anywhere attitude way to much around here and it will definitely get us banned in places that would have normally allowed us to vape..

Thing is that that the people with that attitude also have the attitude that they are right and will not listen to reason.. they turn around and call us sensible people weak and not standing up for our rights.

I'm enjoying this vapeing in places where I wouldn't have been able to smoke for now, but I know it will not last..
 

EddardinWinter

The Philosopher Who Rides
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 13, 2012
8,866
28,169
Richmond, Va
Please keep in mind here, what smells like waffles and lemon drops to you doesn't necessarily smell the same to others around you!! I myself, being a vaper for over 2 years now, can't stand the smell of a majority of juices being vaped today. I find that the worse the aroma, the longer it seems to linger in the room. I am sure they feel the same way, and that is why your policy was changed!

The most important thing here is "WE", (as vapers), can't continue to give the opposition any ammunition in the fight to be able to vape anywhere we want. Education is the key to our side of the fight! Too many people push the boundaries which could lead to a major loss for us in our community. As we have seen with recent bills and propositions, it could be sooner than expected....

While I understand that sentiment, and there is truth in it, we must be careful to be neither too aggressive nor too passive. We would be wise not just vape up a storm anywhere, anytime. On the other hand, when we are in an area that is appropriate for vaping, we must defend this right judiciously. Otherwise, what is the point of having this freedom if we never use it?

Let me give you an example. I vape at work in my office. I never vape in anyone else's office (except for one fellow vaper's office). I never vape in common areas. I only vape in my office because the principle owner has agreed to it, since he is very happy I have quit smoking and and wants to support me. I respect other people's spaces, I demand they respect mine and my choices in it.

Now one of the older partners in the firm does not like that I vape. He came storming in my office one day rambling about my vaping. I told him to go talk to his partner, and asked him to never bring this up to me again for any reason. He then proceeded to badger me about the dangers of e-cigarettes for weeks. He moaned and groaned about the clouds of steam, blah-blah-blah-blah. Such a nagging little wretch, I decided to have a bit of fun.

We have a theatrical smoke machine we use to test smoke evacuation systems and other ventilation systems. It is a polypropylene glycol vaporizer. That thing makes a TON of vapor. It can fill a gymnasium with vapor in about 3 minutes. So one day when he went to lunch I waited until his usual arrival time was about 15 minutes away. I then hooked it up in his office and turned it on. After ten minutes, I shut it off, removed it, and quickly shut his office door. When he returned there was not a hint of vapor outside of his office. But when he opened the door a wall of vapor crashed into him. He was absolutely stunned.

He did not speak to me for weeks, but I think deep down he thought it was a great joke. Whether or not that is true, he no longer brings up my vaping to me.

EDIT: Forgive me GT, I know you don't agree with me on this. But I do appreciate your perspective, I really do.
 
Last edited:

pdxtechdoctor

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 16, 2013
182
75
pdxtechdoctor
People like to talk big, and get all puffed up and say things like "I'll do what I want, when I want, where I want", but no, no you won't. Education, not confrontation, is what we need.

I can still vape in the hotel where I work; but I have heard a rumour that HR is going to force us outside in the smokers corner.

Not to much of a problem, as it gives me an excuse to take a break!!


Envoyé de mon iPhone à l'aide de Tapatalk

I can see them doing that here in the US, but I can also see that there will be lawsuits about forcing non-smokers to be surrounded by smoke .. I suspect that eventually there will be a smokers corner and a vapers corner
 

gthompson

Free at last
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 28, 2011
9,814
22,101
Tennessee, USA
Let me give you an example. I vape at work in my office. I never vape in anyone else's office (except for one fellow vaper's office). I never vape in common areas. I only vape in my office because the principle owner has agreed to it, since he is very happy I have quit smoking and and wants to support me. I respect other people's spaces, I demand they respect mine and my choices in it.

Ditto. I also have permission to vape in my office (the owners are both proud I quit smoking), as does the other vaper where I work. I vape in my office (unless someone is in my office with me) and outside. I vape no where else. Some here would argue that I am not standing up for my (our) rights unless I walk all over my workplace blowing vapor in everyone's faces.
 

EddardinWinter

The Philosopher Who Rides
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 13, 2012
8,866
28,169
Richmond, Va
Ditto. I also have permission to vape in my office (the owners are both proud I quit smoking), as does the other vaper where I work. I vape in my office (unless someone is in my office with me) and outside. I vape no where else. Some here would argue that I am not standing up for my (our) rights unless I walk all over my workplace blowing vapor in everyone's faces.

Well I am not one of those. I don't really think you need anyone's advice in standing up for yourself!

Oh, but I do vape when there are visitors in my office. If they want to visit, they know what to expect in the Lion's den. The only exception to this is my clients. Some of them are now friends so I vape away, but with newer ones or more formal ones, I don't vape while they are visiting.
 

pdxtechdoctor

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 16, 2013
182
75
pdxtechdoctor
By the way, I've now started keeping one of my evod's filled only with unflavored liquid... I always take it with me when I go out and use it in areas with people. It's actually harder to convince people that it's just vapor when using a liquid with a heavy fragrance.

We don't really notice it ourselves, but alot of juices do have some heavy smells. When it doesn't smell like anything, I find that I have much better luck because able to vape...
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread