I could be wrong but I don't think the 1% club mosspa is referring to is biker related, I think he meant the financial 1%ers
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I could be wrong but I don't think the 1% club mosspa is referring to is biker related, I think he meant the financial 1%ers
No, the reason I said 'amelioration' (with, deference to Andria, of course) is that 'reduction' implies that there is some known risk. 'Amelioration' suggests 'elimination', which I think is close to the case for most people who vape in substitution for smoking..
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I could be wrong but I don't think the 1% club mosspa is referring to is biker related, I think he meant the financial 1%ers
Either would be better than being stuck in the middle. I hate being average, anything.
I agree the middle sucks, however I am striving for the financial end of the spectrum mostly because doesn't the other require taking someones life? I hope I never have to do that, but do reserve that right should it be necessary.
Mosspa, I don't recall you saying, what device are you using now?
BTW, I upped to 50 mg Monday afternoon, and was a little speedy at bedtime, but overall slept well. Better than normal at least.
Tuesday I used 50 mg all day, but less than I normally vape. I was really speedy at bedtime and didn't sleep well at all.
Today I cut back to 33 mg, so we will see.
I do have seem to have less anxiety and am trying to be more aware of my habitual vaping. I probably used half the amount of liquid today.
BTW, I upped to 50 mg Monday afternoon, and was a little speedy at bedtime, but overall slept well. Better than normal at least.
Tuesday I used 50 mg all day, but less than I normally vape. I was really speedy at bedtime and didn't sleep well at all.
Today I cut back to 33 mg, so we will see.
I do have seem to have less anxiety and am trying to be more aware of my habitual vaping. I probably used half the amount of liquid today.
With all this encouraging talk of beneficial qualities of nicotine contrary to my previous indoctrination, I today mixed up some 30 mg. It's steeping as we speak.
I think that's probably true, at least a 95% amelioration; my own perspective on how my body has responded to vaping is that, in normal, regular vaping, there is a great deal more potential harm to be found in the carriers, the PG and VG, and of course in the flavors, than in the nicotine. That's why it's so absurd for all these 'ANTZ' to be freaking out about nicotine. I guess they've never heard the axiom "the dose makes the poison."
I was already borderline or slightly past that point with dehydration, when I started vaping, likely due to my 30 yrs use of an inhaler containing PG, as well as a 10-cup-a-day tea habit, and throw in menopausal tears and excessive sweating -- then add vaping -- it became a perfect storm of dehydration and electrolyte imbalance so profound, my feet were lumpy and painful, and the swelling ran from the top of my feet to my mid-calves. I addressed that problem while I was taking that month-long "smoke break," after my illness, because that particular illness just added to the dehydration, I lost so many fluids when I was unable to keep any down. I had to add 12oz of coconut water daily, and dropping the tea from 10 to 2 cups a day -- and the problem completely went away. Now I usually have 6-8oz coconut water daily, and don't go over 3 cups of tea a day, and stay *mostly* symptom-free, but if ever there is any tears or excessive sweating, it can come back very easily -- so I go with more coconut water and less tea/more water.
It can be partially attributed to vaping; on the other hand, if not for vaping, the problem might have limped along in that borderline state for many more years, doing who knows what damage to my kidneys and vascular system, but vaping has forced me to deal with it -- so much goodness because of vaping!
Andria
I agree the middle sucks, however I am striving for the financial end of the spectrum mostly because doesn't the other require taking someones life? I hope I never have to do that, but do reserve that right should it be necessary.
No no no... in biker-speak, the 1%'ers are those who ride in ALL weather! My husband was one of those for years -- no face shield either, just sunglasses and a helmet. If anyone asked him about bugs, he'd just gnash his teeth at 'em, thru that big ol gnarly beard.
EDIT: The only reason he's no longer a 1%'er is because he crashed his bike; while he was in the e-room getting a cast on his broken foot, some [expletive omitted] stole it right off the side of the road!
Now we have a nice Chevy Silverado. Andria
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I agree the middle sucks, however I am striving for the financial end of the spectrum mostly because doesn't the other require taking someones life? I hope I never have to do that, but do reserve that right should it be necessary.
Never saw the show, but I was alluding to the financial 1%, as well
It can be partially attributed to vaping; on the other hand, if not for vaping, the problem might have limped along in that borderline state for many more years, doing who knows what damage to my kidneys and vascular system, but vaping has forced me to deal with it -- so much goodness because of vaping!
I'm not a weepy sort of guy, but a lot of stories I have read here really start to choke me up. Luckily, I never got to the point of serious habitual smoking. My dad did and he died of COPD at 78. My mentor and very close friend was diagnosed with a very aggressive lung cancer in 1983. He bicycled to my dissertation defense on Aug 2nd that year and and died on Aug 28th. He was also my undergrad co-adviser and he chain smoked as long as I knew him. Watching him die was one of the hardest things I ever experienced. After that, I could never have started smoking again, even if I wanted to. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.
I got 3 of these from MFS (see attachment). One for my office/lab/classroom, one for my car, and one for my house. Different colors, obviously
As I have said, I know nothing about these delivery systems, what makes one superior to another, or even what to look for in a quality device. These things cost me only $8.00 a pop. I didn't purchase them on the cheap, they just seemed like a reasonable solution for the nicotine vapor I wanted to try. I have got to believe that they are higher quality than the Vuse product I was using before. If there is something I should know that would help me along, I'd appreciate it. I mean, if I need to drop some serious coin to get a much better system I would. I'm not interested in mimicking smoking, or in blowing out bilious clouds of vapor. I just want to get inhaled nicotine into my lungs at a concentration I can control. When I decided to go the roll my own juice route, I set up a little juice-mix bar in one of my lab rooms that can be shared by all my student interns that vape. We have a little money jar for donations, and supplies get replaced when we run low. Currently, there are about seven of us vaping off the common stock. I took the initial 48mg unflavored solution home, and replaced it with 500ml of the MFS 100mg juice for the lab to make dilution math easier. My last personal batch of juice was 45mg nicotine 70/30 PG/VG. Right now, a couple of us are vaping for 'better brains' and the others are 'ameliorating harm'. At any rate, thus far, it has been great fun, and it gives my students something to gossip aboutAttachments
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For what you are doing those should be fine. Eventually the wick gets gummed up and needs replacing. I mostly vape on a nautilus mini tank at 8 watts because I like the taste. You aren't interested in flavor and don't take many puffs per day so why get fancy unless you like hardware. Signs that the wick is getting tired would be less vapor production, may be a draw that's too tight, or a sour taste even though there is plenty of liquid in the tank.I got 3 of these from MFS (see attachment). One for my office/lab/classroom, one for my car, and one for my house. Different colors, obviously
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Yes, that's a very hard thing to watch; my dad died of lung cancer in 2006; after that, everytime I'd light up, I'd get a flash of him lying there, being "breathed" by a noisy respirator, and him fighting it. His lovely white beard all shaved off (and very inexpertly) so they could tape it to his face. And wondering if I was truly insane, to still be smoking, but totally unable to do a single thing about it -- until vaping.
I'd like to think he's looking down and giving me both thumbs up, for vaping instead of smoking. He was one of the early "computer guys," started out on mainframes at Delta Airlines in the '60s, later went to PCs -- but still programming COBOL!
So the geek in him would have loved e-cigs, I'm quite sure.Andria
Good deal. Coils last me months with unflavored.
The only thing I think you might consider, is not leaving one in your car in extremely hot Florida weather.
I know a lot of people do, but I have seen cell phones shut down in hot cars, and I tend to err on the side of caution with these batteries. Don't charge on a laptop, Don't charge unattended. Always charge with the intended charger.
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chemicals vs behavior Thinking back to my smoking days, I commuted by bus for some years. During the ride having a cigarette never crossed my mind. I never got a craving for a smoke while riding the motorcycle. I never crave a cigarette while flying. All this suggests that it's situations, not chemicals that are talking to me.
To make this a bit political, the first tobacco taxes in the US were to help pay for the Civil War (we freed the black slaves and turned around and enslaved a buch of white folks). The modern rationale for taxing tobacco is that the substance is addictive, therefore sinful so we can tax it. But are they really taxing a behavior rather than a substance, since vaping 0 nic is not so uncommon yet seems to be habit forming.
To make this a bit political, the first tobacco taxes in the US were to help pay for the Civil War (we freed the black slaves and turned around and enslaved a buch of white folks). The modern rationale for taxing tobacco is that the substance is addictive, therefore sinful so we can tax it. But are they really taxing a behavior rather than a substance, since vaping 0 nic is not so uncommon yet seems to be habit forming.
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I'd just like to know where they got the EVERLOVING GALL to presume to tax something just because it's "sinful." That's a religious judgement, and as such, has NO place in American law.
If they just came right out and said "we disapprove and therefore we're going to tax it" that would at least be HONEST, if not Constitutional!
Andria
Very interesting - one thing I notice with myself - especially when I raise my nicotine level is that I can concentrate better and I am more inclined to read/learn something - I don't feel like the nicotine makes me "smarter" but it allows me to focus much better.
Interesting thread indeed. Let me add my take. I was diagnosed with severe depression and anxiety disorder 12 years ago when I turned 40. I've been on almost every medication they have at one time or another. It took eight years before I was stabilized enough to actually function outside the house for more than an hour at a time. One of the most unfortunate side effects of my condition, exasperated as well by the meds, is decreased cognitive functioning. My memory, the ability to concentrate, even having the mental energy to concentrate have all been significantly compromised.
I was always curious as to why my doctor never broached the subject of my pack a day smoking habit, so I finally asked him. He told me that unless there was an immediate health issue that was smoking related, he did not council his patients with the type and breadth of depression and anxiety that I had to quit smoking. He doesn't encourage it, but does not include such patients in his normal smoking cessation recommendations. The reason? Nicotine. He already knew what I discovered on my own. Nicotine can be an extremely effective counter to the cognitive deficits that I and many others like me deal with.
What do I get from what, for me, is actually nicotine therapy? Increased alertness, the ability to stay calm during stressful situations, the ability to multitask again, the ability to read an entire article or book without having to go back a paragraph because I've forgotten what I read, the ability to recall common words without having a senior moment even though I'm only 52, and I'm a hell of a lot nicer to be around again. All things that I excelled at before my depression hit.
Yes, nicotine's benefits are obvious to me. I don't need anyone telling me about nicotine the demon drug. Too bad that until recently the only way to get it was filling your lungs with smoke. Now things are different. I'll stop here. This is probably the longest post I've ever made on this forum!
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