have you tried inhaling the vapor at a faster rate with shorter puffs yet quicker?
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We are property managers, and I had to deal with a tenants carbon monoxide detector going off today. There really was not a reason for it to go off except for her chain smoking in a tightly closed home. And that is what the fire department said after they came too. So I did some studying online and it is crazy how much cm we were getting from smoking alone! I had no clue. Smoking indoors = WAY worse.
As for the vap nic effect... I can go for longer without having to vap. Or just take one or 2 puffs and feel satisfied. But I find that vaping is too much fun to do that. lol I love making all the non stinky clouds.
Good to hear its going well for you now.
I'm like you, as its easy to go longer periods of time without vaping, but I enjoy it SO much more than smoking. Yes, some say they actually vape more, and that may be because of the slower nicotine absorption of vapor. I don't think that would be because of a stronger addiction, rather, just getting more nicotine out of a milder administration method. Plus, vaping is far less harmful, if any, so that has to be factored in as well.
I enjoy the experience of vaping. When smoking, I only enjoyed the experience because of the nicotine. Now, it seems disgusting. My mom was a 50 year smoker and my stepdad smokes 2+ packs a day. I switched to vaping (I'm in my 30s) because I didn't want to have the health problems they have had. But I never thought I would actually enjoy it more than smoking. And the stench of smoke- I hate it now!
It's disgusting. I will say that I educated myself a few years before I quit smoking, and started buying either American Spirits or cigarettes with local tobacco (I live in KY). I noticed I felt better immediately, and was poisoning myself with cheaper tobacco laced with some really awful chemicals.
Good point about the carbon monoxide, as I didn't factor that in either.
It's amazing how irrational smokers can be. There are some that even make other smokers scratch their head at how far the denial goes.
My mom started having health issues, and my stepdad continued to smoke in the house. It angered me, but at the same time I knew he was in complete denial about what smoking was doing to them. That is, until he started to have health problems too. That's the nature of it, unfortunately. There has to be some kind of denial going on to be like that.
See, I'm just not exactly sure about my experience with vaping yet. The posts in this thread are all very positive as far as vaping, and rightfully so.
But frankly (when it comes to me at least), I'm growing a little concerned.
First off, I'm SO glad to be off of a two pack a day habit of analogs. And this was for many, many years. (I don't even want to tell you how many).
I haven't had a single analog since I received my first PV over 2 months ago. I was like a little kid on Christmas morning once I had realized I was FINALLY sucessful quiting Cigarettes after so many failed attempts.
But as time goes by, I think I have a problem. First off, I can't ever put this thing down for any lengthy period of time. (I haven't really tried yet...I'm afraid to).
I vape 24MG juice pretty much no-stop all day long, Not quite like analogs, of course. I'll have a few hits, put it down, then pick it up 30 seconds later and have a few more....all day.
People told me when I first joined this forum, that everybody does that when they first start vaping, and it will eventually subside.
But it hasn't with me. My thoery is that I'm still trying to keep the same NIC level in my body that i was accostumed to for so many years, but failing to do so. But it sure doesn't stop me from trying.
Lately, I just feel kind of "strange" in a way that's hard to decribe. But it's with my sleeping habits, and just my generl feeling throughout the day.
I may be getting too much nicotene..not sure. Problem is, it was my intention to drop down from 24MG to something less over time. Well, I tried 12MG and even 18MG and I just wasn't "happy", so back I went to my 24MG, hitting on it no-stop.
I know (or hope), I'm a heck of a lot better off than I was, but I can't help but feel I'm now "hopelessly addicted" to vaping. It seems my life now relvolves around vaping, just like it did with Cigarettes. What with constantly buying new juice and equipment, filling cartos, tanks, charging batteries, and all the while still having another spare PV in my hand vaping away.
I know people here don't generally like to hear any negative comments about vaping, and that's not my intention. Just sharing my experience as asked by McDougal in the original post.
As we all know, the learning curve, and the vast amout of information out there concerning e-cigs is mind boggling.
What concens me, is that with all of the information out there, still, relatively speaking, very little is known about the long term effects of vaping, as this is still a fairly new "phenemenom".
Sometimes I think I should try an analoge like some here have, to re-enforce the fact that I'm happy vaping instead....but I don't dare do that.
So it appears, I'll just keep vaping my brains out, much like I did with analogs, and truly hope that I'm better off in the long run.
Sorry about the long winded post, but I just had to get some of that off of my chest.
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I was 1 PAD rez RYO strong tobacco smoker. I started with 36 mg and it was the perfect amount of Nic. 6 weeks later and I'm down to 24 mg. Next step will be 20 mg by New years. Scientists have found it takes 6- 12 months to deprogram the brain from analogs. Sis quit analogs 30 yrs ago and she told me she still has the occasional urge. Nicotine and all the other chems in analogs are addictive so it's no surprise to me that after quitting analogs the urge sometimes still arises. All IMHO but I place Nicotine in the same class as all other addictive drugs. Good Luck, Vapoor.
I used to smoke two packs a day in my two BR apt. After living there 5 years I painted the walls and ceiling, barely smoked indoors again after seeing the difference 
1 1/2 yrs ago I bought a duplex - absolutely no smoking in either unit.
I bought my first PV in March '09 and just vapped wherever I couldn't smoke. It wasn't until I made my first HV mod that I really felt I could drop the analogs. This January will be 2 years without even as much as a drag from an analog. I started at 24mg and settled on 18mg for a long time. I still vape constantly and the handful of friends I have who still smoke think I'm more addicted now than I was with analogs. I don't think this is the case because if need be I can go without my PV for a long time, I just choose not to. They just like to make themselves feel better about smoking. Earlier today I spent a couple hours without my PV while I sat here troubleshooting my genesis setup. I felt a little uncomfortable, but it was tolerable.
Once I switched to a ScubaGen v3 I quickly dropped from 18mg to 8-10 because I started overdoing it and getting light headed. I'll probably try 0 nic soon just to see how it is with this mod. On my old 510 it didn't have nearly enough th, but neither did 8mg.
1 1/2 yrs ago I bought a duplex - absolutely no smoking in either unit.I bought my first PV in March '09 and just vapped wherever I couldn't smoke. It wasn't until I made my first HV mod that I really felt I could drop the analogs. This January will be 2 years without even as much as a drag from an analog. I started at 24mg and settled on 18mg for a long time. I still vape constantly and the handful of friends I have who still smoke think I'm more addicted now than I was with analogs. I don't think this is the case because if need be I can go without my PV for a long time, I just choose not to. They just like to make themselves feel better about smoking. Earlier today I spent a couple hours without my PV while I sat here troubleshooting my genesis setup. I felt a little uncomfortable, but it was tolerable.
Once I switched to a ScubaGen v3 I quickly dropped from 18mg to 8-10 because I started overdoing it and getting light headed. I'll probably try 0 nic soon just to see how it is with this mod. On my old 510 it didn't have nearly enough th, but neither did 8mg.
And like others have said, the good thing with vaping is that now most folks can really taste the other crap in analog cig. so each time you go back and smoke an analog, it's negative reinforcement to that habit. whereas before you would motor through those cigs and eventually you couldn't taste the crap. Also, the higher frequency and shorter vaping sessions break up the psychological addiction to the "10-min" smoke break in the mornings, after lunch, dinner, sex, etc. Half the time that I felt the need for a cig, that thought was triggered by one of those events.
It sounds like you are doing very well for two months. The smoking habit went on for years for me and quitting took me many attempts and a gradual reduction and then to nic gum and then to vaping so IMHO you are doing a great job. Its been two years for me since I had a real cig and to be honest I still wanted to smoke and missed it for the entire first year. The gum was the only thing that held me at bay. You made a big change and it takes time to adjust. I don't give myself any time limits for nic reduction and if you do have a goal thats fine but don't be so hard on yourself. One day at a time my friend.
I think all the comments in this thread are spot on! I love to vape, and I don't feel guilty doing it.. I can't say the same for analogs.. Also, I don't feel "crappy" as I did with analogs.. Vaping seems to be a nice, clean, nicotine hit.. I truly enjoy it!
I'm happy for everyone that is living a healthy life!! You all are inspiring people without even knowing! Best of luck!
I'm happy for everyone that is living a healthy life!!
You all are inspiring people without even knowing! Best of luck!
Thenut, I feel less energy now that I've quit smoking and have gone through some mood changes. My opinion is that it's due to some of the chemicals in cigarettes that I don't get now. My sleeping patterns have changed dramatically too - went through some awful bouts of insomnia.
It hasn't been all flowers and sunshine for me but I'm not smoking (YAY). 3 months for me almost and just starting to feel like myself again. I think everyone's experience is different but the common denominator is that we don't smoke and it's healthier. The rest will pass as your body adjusts.
It hasn't been all flowers and sunshine for me but I'm not smoking (YAY). 3 months for me almost and just starting to feel like myself again. I think everyone's experience is different but the common denominator is that we don't smoke and it's healthier. The rest will pass as your body adjusts.
I appreciate the positive and reinforcing comments from some of you, concerning my earlier rather negative post.
Guess I've just been feeling down in the dumps, and a little depressed looking back on my life and realizing I've been addicted to one thing or another for so long. (Don't worry, nothing too serious...mostly booze and cigarettes, with a few other less harmful things thrown in). And now I feel like I'm "addicted" to vaping. Almost like: "Hell, it just never ends for me, does it?"
I just turned 60 in August and even though I still feel like a teenager mentally, my body is certainly telling me otherwise. So even though I don't share exactly the same enthusiasm about vaping as most of you do (at least not at this point in time), I'll keep plugging away and do the best I can.
Because there is no doubt in my mind that if I give up and start smoking analogs again, that will be it. I'll just give up completely and never try again.
I know all of this sound like "poor poor pitiful me". I'll try to get over it and get a life. And honest, I wasn't trying to rain on anyones parade...just sharing my experiences because I think it helps me to talk about it.
Thanks again to all of you, and to this forum.
Guess I've just been feeling down in the dumps, and a little depressed looking back on my life and realizing I've been addicted to one thing or another for so long. (Don't worry, nothing too serious...mostly booze and cigarettes, with a few other less harmful things thrown in). And now I feel like I'm "addicted" to vaping. Almost like: "Hell, it just never ends for me, does it?"
I just turned 60 in August and even though I still feel like a teenager mentally, my body is certainly telling me otherwise. So even though I don't share exactly the same enthusiasm about vaping as most of you do (at least not at this point in time), I'll keep plugging away and do the best I can.
Because there is no doubt in my mind that if I give up and start smoking analogs again, that will be it. I'll just give up completely and never try again.
I know all of this sound like "poor poor pitiful me". I'll try to get over it and get a life. And honest, I wasn't trying to rain on anyones parade...just sharing my experiences because I think it helps me to talk about it.
Thanks again to all of you, and to this forum.
Hi The,
Listen, there is a reason that we were all drawn to cigarettes and others were not. I've had a very long history of being addicted to everything; people, booze etc etc. It's just who I am. I just vape now (of course) but can completely relate. Funny thing is that recently I've recognized that I wouldn't change my personality for anything. I'm intense, passionate and don't 1/2 step into anything. This can be viewed as a + or a -. If anyone doesn't like me for being quirky then too bad for them. Accepting yourself, warts and all, is tough but nobody's perfect. I think fitting a mold is rather boring anyway.
Listen, there is a reason that we were all drawn to cigarettes and others were not. I've had a very long history of being addicted to everything; people, booze etc etc. It's just who I am. I just vape now (of course) but can completely relate. Funny thing is that recently I've recognized that I wouldn't change my personality for anything. I'm intense, passionate and don't 1/2 step into anything. This can be viewed as a + or a -. If anyone doesn't like me for being quirky then too bad for them. Accepting yourself, warts and all, is tough but nobody's perfect. I think fitting a mold is rather boring anyway.
That's one of the things I really like about this community. We are all here for each other, to listen when someone needs it, to give advise and to share knowledge and friendship with the people that share a common goal, to vape instead of smoke. We all have had our own private battles, be it getting off of analogs, or coping with a new habit (or hobby if you prefer), or any of a thousand different problems. Some people may be able to do it on their own, but most of us need the support of others in the same boat that we are. I know that ECF has helped me a lot, and I try to pass that on, because I have gotten a lot from everyone here, and I hope that in some small way I am helping others as I have been helped. And I know if/when I have more problems, I can come in here and talk about it, and there will be someone who will listen and understand, and help me get through it.
Well, thanks for listening and I'll pass the podium now. LOL.
Well, thanks for listening and I'll pass the podium now. LOL.
lol...yeah, I've never 1/2 stepped anything either. Whether it's bad for me or not, I dive in all the way, head first, and hope I can come up for air eventually. I used to pride myself on telling people: "Moderation sucks".
But now, at my age, it's not quite as funny anymore.I was born in the 50's but "engaged" heavily during the 60's...'nuf said.
But my body is finally telling me it's time to somehow get my act together, or else. So try, I will.
Ahh - you've LIVED your life. I was never a big fan of conformity. As we age, health somehow becomes important and we take it less for granted. I think that it's normal. Plenty of people never get to experience being middle aged cause they don't make it that far. Count your blessings 1 by 1 and live each day the best you can. It's all we got.
Funny that you mentioned it. I was just talking today with my friend (who switched to vaping at approx. same time that I did about month and a half ago) that both of us can be off vaping longer than we ever could with smoking.
And you know what. I really really like that I'm in back on control of my destiny.
And you know what. I really really like that I'm in back on control of my destiny.
This is Day 3 for me vaping. I don't crave vaping as much as I craved cigarettes. But I like vaping. I find myself wanting to vape for long periods of time. I am still experimenting, but I feel a rapid heartbeat and too much energy. With analogs, I didn't get the rapid heartbeat. With vaping I feel like I have been and drinking coffee all day long. I tried vaping 0 mg, but that didn't even taste that good.
I've not ventured into even trying the 0mg. Do you guys find that it really tastes different?
Hmm I've also noticed that holding it in longer and breathing out through the nose seems to produce more of an effect? But generally I'm skeptical of the claim that puffs of e-cigs = puffs of cigarette puff for buff (i.e. 12 to one analog) I feel like it's more along the 20s? What does everyone else find?
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