Vaping in hotels: beware!

[The Torch]

Modern smoke detectors use an infrared laser beam, which means they detect any form of airborne particles. Mine sometimes goes off when I warm up the oven and can't even see any form of smoke.

I have vaped in all hotel rooms I have been in during the last year (yayyy one year off death sticks this week!). I always make it a point to blow vapor downwards and away from the fire alarm unless it is far enough (I travel enough for work that I sometimes get upgraded to a suite, so the couch is far enough from the fire alarm.)

That said, I hope being this honest will not ruin it for the rest of us...

I do have to add that I qualify as a tootle puffer, yet I can cloud enough to be worried about hotel smoke detectors. I'd probably vape with my head out the window if I was cloud chasing...

 

[Bunnykiller]

bring along a spray can of "powdery" deoderant ... "oops guess I sprayed too much..."

 

[SissySpike]

Umm, sort of. I've known quite a few firemen in my life, both volunteer and paid. False alarms cut into both their time and operational budget. Waste MY time and/or money, I'm gonna be a little steamed. And as someone that's spent a good portion of their adult life being on call for emergencies 24/7/365, I know I don't like being pulled out of bed or away from family to begin with. Finding out it's for a non-issue only makes it worse.

Its there job thats what they get paid to do. Granted we all have bad days and we all show our rear side at times. Being a jerk is not going to add anything positive to the situation. If the people who budget the emergency services do not factor in false alarms then shame on them obliviously their mother did not teach them better safe than sorry.
False alarms are a unplanned drill that keep the crews on their toes and ready to respond. You would think with any time on the job any responder would learn they are being unrealistic to think there will not be false alarms.

Maybe I don't understand but I would think whew! Glad that was just something silly cause the real deal could mean people hurt or worse.

 

[Robino1]

Its there job thats what they get paid to do. Granted we all have bad days and we all show our rear side at times. Being a jerk is not going to add anything positive to the situation. If the people who budget the emergency services do not factor in false alarms then shame on them obliviously their mother did not teach them better safe than sorry.
False alarms are a unplanned drill that keep the crews on their toes and ready to respond. You would think with any time on the job any responder would learn they are being unrealistic to think there will not be false alarms.

Maybe I don't understand but I would think whew! Glad that was just something silly cause the real deal could mean people hurt or worse.

Some people just have bad days too. Who knows what the guy dealt with earlier in the day. And this is getting a bit off topic. We can sit and argue why someone was being less than professional but since we aren't in his shoes, we will never know.

Back to topic.

Those of us, that have been around on ECF for a long time, have learned that there are smoke detectors that will react to vapor. But this is a good reminder and a learning lesson for those that are new to vaping.

 

[workman70]

Just exhale into a towel...problem solved

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

Just exhale into a towel...problem solved

That's brilliant.

Thanks!

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[SissySpike]

Some people just have bad days too. Who knows what the guy dealt with earlier in the day. And this is getting a bit off topic. We can sit and argue why someone was being less than professional but since we aren't in his shoes, we will never know.

Back to topic.

Those of us, that have been around on ECF for a long time, have learned that there are smoke detectors that will react to vapor. But this is a good reminder and a learning lesson for those that are new to vaping.

like Id let a little thing like topic get in the waybut I here ya

 

[pennysmalls]

The hotel where the Vape in the Fort convention was held was an absolute mess with their fire alarm system! Fire alarms were going off in multiple rooms over and over and they finally called in the Fire Marshall so they could shut the system down. The fire marshall had to remain on the premises during the convention because the alarm system was shut down. All of the smoke detectors in the hallways were covered in paper and tape to keep them from going off. It was a bit crazy.

 

[Killowatt]

I want to thank you all for this info, I've been vaping over 2yrs, but don't stay at motels much, friends and family help a lot. Now I know why my new smoke detectors go off more than the old ones, and not from vaping. I'm not a cloud chaser, so that might have something to do with it, or my living room is larger than most motel rooms I've stayed at.

 

[jrlakeman]

Never admit to something unless directly asked. Even then lie till you get caught.

Agreed. If they talking to you they dont have enough evidence to prove it and trying to get you to incriminate yourself.

 

[SissySpike]

The hotel where the Vape in the Fort convention was held was an absolute mess with their fire alarm system! Fire alarms were going off in multiple rooms over and over and they finally called in the Fire Marshall so they could shut the system down. The fire marshall had to remain on the premises during the convention because the alarm system was shut down. All of the smoke detectors in the hallways were covered in paper and tape to keep them from going off. It was a bit crazy.

Yea I can see from that someone being a little miffed at the vapors clouding up the joint.

 

[FringeChief68]

@FringeChief68 PLEASE come to this thread & post a pic of your hotel vapessssss! PLEASE!

Fringe spends more time in hotels then he does at home.

Also answer for us if you've ever set off any fire alarms.

Hello Everyone

Yea I travel a lot and I never had any problems with vaping in hotels.
But I have heard stories of hotels using them smoke detectors that will go off with any form of smoke, vapor, or steam. These type of detectors are more of a motion detector and even steam from a hot shower can set them off. I have never stayed in a hotel room with one of those.

First off, when I am asked is that a e-cig I say NO, I never use the words electric cigarette or e-cig
I explain to them that a electric cigarette is a device that uses a electric coil to ignite a dry tobacco which throws off smoke and that is not what I have
I tell them that what I have is a personnel vaporizer and it's just like the vaporizer in a hospital or like what a person would use in their house.
And just like those, it helps me breath and I use them for my asthma

This is what my night stand next to my hotel bed looks like,

These are my travel kits

The only problem I ever had was the hotel maids and the chemicals they use.

All of them mods I had sitting out plus two 120ml bottles of juice I left open to steep all got ruined,
I think their cleaner, air freshener, or something else they sprayed got in them

 

[440BB]

I would gladly test all those mods and recertify them, returning them to you after thoroughly evaluating them for a few months or so...

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Umm, sort of. I've known quite a few firemen in my life, both volunteer and paid. False alarms cut into both their time and operational budget. Waste MY time and/or money, I'm gonna be a little steamed. And as someone that's spent a good portion of their adult life being on call for emergencies 24/7/365, I know I don't like being pulled out of bed or away from family to begin with. Finding out it's for a non-issue only makes it worse.

I respectfully disagree. I used to be a firefighter, wildland, and my husband a rural firefighter. False alarms come with the territory. If a firefighter prefers his/her beauty sleep, they shouldn’t be in the business, though I understand it can be frustrating.

Volunteers in these parts get at least two hours of pay if they make it to the station before being called off.

We preferred someone not dying, someone’s house not burning down or the forest not going up in smoke to what might have been. Not quite as exciting as jumping in a helicopter and being dumped 20 miles out in the wilderness to put out a spot fire though.

Hello Everyone

Yea I travel a lot and I never had any problems with vaping in hotels.
But I have heard stories of hotels using them smoke detectors that will go off with any form of smoke, vapor, or steam. These type of detectors are more of a motion detector and even steam from a hot shower can set them off. I have never stayed in a hotel room with one of those.

First off, when I am asked is that a e-cig I say NO, I never use the words electric cigarette or e-cig
I explain to them that a electric cigarette is a device that uses a electric coil to ignite a dry tobacco which throws off smoke and that is not what I have
I tell them that what I have is a personnel vaporizer and it's just like the vaporizer in a hospital or like what a person would use in their house.
And just like those, it helps me breath and I use them for my asthma

This is what my night stand next to my hotel bed looks like,

These are my travel kits

The only problem I ever had was the hotel maids and the chemicals they use.

All of them mods I had sitting out plus two 120ml bottles of juice I left open to steep all got ruined,
I think their cleaner, air freshener, or something else they sprayed got in them

Nice kit! Do you have a Sherpa too? I vape in hotel rooms, no smoking rooms in these parts anymore. Tootle puff are the magic words.


We were in a hotel with the bird and dog in tow. Husband took a shower that looked more like sauna. Opened the door and the alarm went off. They put the alarm right outside the bathroom door and the bathroom had no fan. Damn that thing was loud. The bird started screaming, not that you could hear him over the alarm, dog looked mortified, I didn't know what to do. I was a smoker at the time but went all the way outside to do it and didn't want to be blamed. Half the hotel staff showed up immediately talking to my husband who was wearing only a towel. FD never did show so it probably wasn't the first incident. Bet they moved the fire detectors.

 

[evlsnk]

Do you blow clouds?

For six years now I have vaped in every imaginable place imaginable.
I've never set off any smoke detectors though.

No, not particularly. I do subohm, but I don't straight up rip it to get huge clouds. I am a flavor guy. I know some people think if you subohm, that you're automatically a cloud chaser, but just because I am in the .5 ohm range doesn't mean I produce massive clouds. It's not much more than I would see with a older style e-go pen with a 1.2 ohm tank.

As far as the "never incriminate yourself", I am an honest guy (probably too honest sometimes). If someone asks me a direct question, regardless of what the outcome of my answer will be, I will be straight with them. There's nothing I hate more than people beating around the bush with me and trying to guile their way out of a mistake when really all it takes is an "I'm sorry, I didn't know". So maybe it will cost me a couple hundred bucks, maybe it won't. I am not willing to compromise my morals on a stupid fine for an honest mistake.

I am hesitant to try the shower cap method because I feel like if it is sensitive enough to go off from a little bit of vapor, then the change in air composition/natural environment would set it off again. Maybe next hotel I stay at, I will try it, but I am not ready to set off the same alarm twice in the same hotel. Haha.

 

[chrisz]

I would gladly test all those mods and recertify them, returning them to you after thoroughly evaluating them for a few months or so...

Notice he said " travel kit"!! You should see the collection.

 

[AndriaD]

I respectfully disagree. I used to be a firefighter, wildland, and my husband a rural firefighter. False alarms come with the territory. If a firefighter prefers his/her beauty sleep, they shouldn’t be in the business, though I understand it can be frustrating.

Volunteers in these parts get at least two hours of pay if they make it to the station before being called off.

We preferred someone not dying, someone’s house not burning down or the forest not going up in smoke to what might have been. Not quite as exciting as jumping in a helicopter and being dumped 20 miles out in the wilderness to put out a spot fire though.

Yes, exactly; I used to date a guy who volunteered for Civil Defense, diving for cadavers in a local lake (Lanier) -- he said he ALWAYS preferred it to be ANYTHING other than an actual body. He said they considered it a very good dive if they were sent down to find what someone had reported as a body, to find it was anything else, anything at all.

Andria

 

[Scotticus93]

This isn't the first time it's been mentioned in hotel rooms, it should've been well known or at least vape in the bathroom like most people do.
Glad the hotel was more understanding about the situation though unlike the firefighters who all seem to have a one track mind anyways. Found it interesting about the ban though indoors, first I've heard of that.
Haha, I had to laugh at #3, I've only heard it once and don't wish to hear it again.

Don't vape in hotel rooms. Even bathrooms. It's bad news bears. I set an alarm off in London doing it. I even did it in the bathroom and when I opened the door it set it off. Just make sure it disappates before opening that door.

 

[K_Tech]

Having heard a few stories about people getting charged for smoking in non-smoking rooms, and having stayed in a few of those hotels myself, I wonder if any hotel has tried to charge a vaper that's been "busted" vaping in a non-smoking hotel?

Some people just have bad days too. Who knows what the guy dealt with earlier in the day. And this is getting a bit off topic. We can sit and argue why someone was being less than professional but since we aren't in his shoes, we will never know.

You're absolutely correct. Buzzlove, Flamingo Tutu, I'll happily relate the way it was explained to me via PM if you want to continue. If not, have a great vaping day!

 

[edyle]

The bathroom is designed so that the steam from a hot shower does not trip anything. If it does, it's their problem not yours.

A bon entendeur salut.

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That there.
There are different types of fire alarm systems.
The ones that use light to detect smokelike particles in the air will be activated by steam in the shower or vape.

So the bathroom should be save enough.


I doubt the typical low wattage devices would trip off fire alarms though; its the high wattage devices that fog up the room which could cause a problem