Biggest negative about e cigs being accepted more widely than they already are is the appearance of smoke , we know it's not smoke but the bottom line is if it looks like smoke , thats a problem .
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If someone can make a solid case for not vaping in a walmart, I can make a case for not vaping outdoors. You know, where people like pregnant women and children roam.
Seriously, if someone is 80 feet away from you outdoors, and then 80 feet away from you in a walmart, what is the difference? One factor would be wind. If you vape with zero wind, you have decent idea where the vapor will end up before it dissipates. With wind factor, the person 80 feet away might get it up in their face.
Anyway, I'm with the posters on this thread that would vape in a walmart, with my cigalike device and do so with discretion/respect. I would consider it entirely unlikely that anyone would notice me vaping in there. And megastores are great places to vape because it is very possible to be at least 20 feet away from other people at all times you are in the place, except when at checkout. If being near people is all it took to make it bad, then vaping at an outdoor music concert would be bad, no?
To answer OP's question that came off to me like a 10 year old was asking it, yes Walmart staff can tell you not to vape in their stores. I would suggest not arguing against it, but also do a little investigating to see if it is actual policy or if you were essentially being hassled by uninformed staff member. That way, the next time you vape in Walmart, you'll know to what degree their scolding carries weight with their actual policies. Either way, don't argue it if you don't have the time or gumption, and just be more discrete. Unless I was being stupid with my exhaling, I'd find it very hard to get caught in a Walmart.
To those saying this is why we are being targeted, please, for the sake of vaping, get a clue.
Seriously, if someone is 80 feet away from you outdoors, and then 80 feet away from you in a walmart, what is the difference? One factor would be wind. If you vape with zero wind, you have decent idea where the vapor will end up before it dissipates. With wind factor, the person 80 feet away might get it up in their face.
Anyway, I'm with the posters on this thread that would vape in a walmart, with my cigalike device and do so with discretion/respect. I would consider it entirely unlikely that anyone would notice me vaping in there. And megastores are great places to vape because it is very possible to be at least 20 feet away from other people at all times you are in the place, except when at checkout. If being near people is all it took to make it bad, then vaping at an outdoor music concert would be bad, no?
To answer OP's question that came off to me like a 10 year old was asking it, yes Walmart staff can tell you not to vape in their stores. I would suggest not arguing against it, but also do a little investigating to see if it is actual policy or if you were essentially being hassled by uninformed staff member. That way, the next time you vape in Walmart, you'll know to what degree their scolding carries weight with their actual policies. Either way, don't argue it if you don't have the time or gumption, and just be more discrete. Unless I was being stupid with my exhaling, I'd find it very hard to get caught in a Walmart.
To those saying this is why we are being targeted, please, for the sake of vaping, get a clue.
It's hard to say anything is bad when they're smoking other stuff, and consuming their body weight in alcohol at said festival.
It's hard to say anything is bad when they're smoking other stuff, and consuming their body weight in alcohol at said festival.
Vaping at fast food places just got justified
That's broad, but wrong. You cannot vape in my house.
You can basically do anything anywhere. Just man up to the consequences instead of being a sniveling little piece of horse dung.
We're very fortunate, where we live, we're within 2.5-3 miles of at least a half-dozen grocery stores. We patronize Walmart, Kroger, Ingles, and Aldi -- the only time I go in Publix is if I need some weird ethnic-cuisine ingredient; they have a vast selection of that stuff, but they're mostly way too expensive for us. But with so many big groceries near us, we can get what we like, for reasonable prices, and not even waste a lot of gas doing it.
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We are kinda spoiled in the ethnic market. Having a Jungle Jim's within 10 minutes is wonderful. His beer selection is insane. Well the store is insane and so is Jim.
I think that until the FDA Deeming is complete, that we should do Everything Possible to Educate the Non-Vaping Public about e-Cigarettes. So that the Non-Vaping public can support Us in our cause.
Things like…
Vaping inside Retail Stores.
Vaping in Movies/Restaurants.
Vaping in a Pediatrician Office.
Advocating selling e-Cigarettes to Kids.
Etc.
… are all great ways to Reach a Lot of Non-Vapers. And I’m sure they will Contact their Local, State and Federal Reps expressing their Strong Support for e-Cigarettes.
Things like…
Vaping inside Retail Stores.
Vaping in Movies/Restaurants.
Vaping in a Pediatrician Office.
Advocating selling e-Cigarettes to Kids.
Etc.
… are all great ways to Reach a Lot of Non-Vapers. And I’m sure they will Contact their Local, State and Federal Reps expressing their Strong Support for e-Cigarettes.
I think you just broke my sarcasm detection device. It won't fire, and just says reading too high on the screen. Firmware update needed maybe.
I think you just broke my sarcasm detection device. It won't fire, and just says reading too high on the screen. Firmware update needed maybe.
It is all FEAKIN' MIND SET!!!!
PEOPLE once accepted the World Was Flat - someone said it enough that people accepted it must be true
PEOPLE once accepted the World Was Flat - someone said it enough that people accepted it must be true
No way, the much better plan is to:
A. Treat vaping as shameful as smoking is treated and only vape where smokers smoke
B. If any ingredient is allegedly harmful or bad in our products, then we ought to join the ANTZ choir and tell people how bad vaping is. But only tell fellow vapers this and when speaking to non-vapers claim it saves a lot of lives. Then come back here and talk how bad the product is and how greedy the vendors are, and how they are lying to us just to make a buck.
C. Forget that all of us smoked when we were under 18, and pretend that no one today would do the same, and uphold the virtuous laws that would create an underground market where kids will vape and determine it is so much more cool than the lying adults claim it to be. I'm sure the notion that kids should never do this will only help adults in the longterm.
D. Advocate for all the things FDA has stated in their deeming, i.e. childproof caps, labels, no selling to kids, no cutesy marketing, then turn around and say we are dead set against the FDA deeming and hope no one calls us on our confusing positions.
E. Hopefully by doing the above we can bankrupt all the bad players in the industry and leave all the good ones to make lots of money. Like the tobacco industry did.
ETA: The best thing we can do is vote for a national Democrat in the 2016 elections, who will uphold FSPTCA and make sure vaping is a part of that. It's worked well in California and New York. It ought to work well for the rest of the country.
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It is all FEAKIN' MIND SET!!!!
PEOPLE once accepted the World Was Flat - someone said it enough that people accepted it must be true
But it is flat or we would all just fall off when it turned. Take your witchcraft and spherical world theories elsewhere.
But it is flat or we would all just fall off when it turned. Take your witchcraft and spherical world theories elsewhere.
Where would we fall to?
China?
cashier or not any employee of the store has a right to ask you stop doing something or not to do something that is against the company policy or a potential safety hazard or nuisance. I work retail and I have asked people not to let their kids stand up in the grocery carts and ask kids not to ride the handicapped carts. Is it my job to do this? no, I am a Florist, but part of my job is to uphold the standards of the company I work for and to consider all of the customers. If you think the cashier is wrong then you need to find a manager and take it up with the manager, but I would bet on the manager siding with the cashier and a lot of times the cashiers are managers when additional cashiers are needed. Out of respect for others, stay stealthy or refrain, just because you can does not make it right,and try when possible to restrict it to the same areas smokers are in when out in public.
Oh Yeah... I'm totally with you Jman8. Especially on C.
I can't Think of a Better Way to generate support from the Non-Vaping segment, the 95% of the population, then to tell them that we Want to Sell e-Cigarettes to their Kids.
BTW - Vaping inside Wal-Mart is Great. Especially in the Cereal Aisle. Everyone should Do It. But I have found Other ways to "Educate" people about how Great e-Cigarettes are.
My Latest is to Vape while I put Gas into my Car. Boy, you should see the Looks I get. Can't tell you how Many People I have shown how Cool e-Cigarettes are.
I knew you'd favor that over creating the inevitable underground market for kids, knowing full well they will vape no matter what. Also knowing that anti-vaping people use that as way to forever have foothold into why vaping needs to be taxed up the wazoo and treated as a shameful activity forever and a day.
I like to follow the California way of how to handle vaping politics. I think they are doing great things for the country and looking out for all the precious non-vapers. I really hope a liberal is running the country in 2016, so that whatever FDA comes up with as Final Rule will be fully supported by the executive branch.
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