Vaping is too complicated.

[vapdivrr]

Op, what is the name of that tank and maybe I missed it, but are you doing mtl or dtl? What wattages? And what is the resistance of the coils you are building? If you think it's perhaps your build, I would be more then happy to build you a few coils that would fit your vaping style. If you wanted to send me your tank, I would even wick it for you, plus send back the extra coils. If you notice a big difference in the vape after I return it, I would gladly get with you explaining exactly what I did and even shoot a little video...from your picture, it looks like a 28g coil perhaps? With alot of wraps? Not sure, but let us know. Then again, it just may be that your body doesn't agree with vaping...

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[Caesar77]

I think it's obvious here that OP hasen't done much research or he/she would know more pg = throat hit if you're doing dtl inhales no wonder you're got issues......That and you'd probably know how coil life is affected along with flavors you bought an rta to stop messing with coils and you blame the tank because you don't get flavor ? Again bad research imho.

I didn't blame the tank in any of my posts, I have done a lot of research believe it or not, but it's impossible to know it all, and I do know about PG and I know about VG and I know each ones characteristics.
I checked and the one I have been trying lately is 30PG/70VG

I blame myself for everything nowhere did I blame anyone nor anything I'm obviously missing something, my point is in the TL;DR.

 

[Caesar77]

Op, what is the name of that tank and maybe I missed it, but are you doing mtl or dtl? What wattages? And what is the resistance of the coils you are building? If you think it's perhaps your build, I would be more then happy to build you a few coils that would fit your vaping style. If you wanted to send me your tank, I would even wick it for you, plus send back the extra coils. If you notice a big difference in the vape after I return it, I would gladly get with you explaining exactly what I did and even shoot a little video...from your picture, it looks like a 28g coil perhaps? With alot of wraps? Not sure, but let us know. Then again, it just may be that your body doesn't agree with vaping...

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It's a geekvape ammit 22,24GA kanthal A1 wire, cotton bacon v2 wick,usually 0.3-0.6 ohms,the one in the picture is a parallel coil,I always do dtl and I prefer higher wattage for more vapor and flavor, about 35-45w.

I don't think it's my body not agreeing with vaping, I had a great experience vaping on the stick v8 the first time with the coil it came in with it was a blast, after that it sucked tho :/

And thanks a lot for the proposition btw you are the man.

 

[Beamslider]

Really not all that complicated. Fill tank, make sure battery is charged. Push button inhale. Repeat as often as needed.

 

[stols001]

There isn't any "blame" here @Caesar77. Worry and concern maybe and also offers of assistance which *I* for one would consider that offer. While I do understand it may be overwhelming hearing everyone's opinion and etc., I don't think anyone is saying you are to "blame" for what happened but that maybe you need some more education. My concern is about your self-care, actually. The fact that you were coughing up blood and didn't follow up concerns me a great deal. For all you knew that could have been an esophageal tear, which can cause death in minutes.

So, your health is number one.

Two, if you don't take care of number one, then maybe a return to smoking is safer for you as this might be one rare case where it's actually safer because AT LEAST you know what you are doing.

You didn't blame yourself exactly, but you did blame vaping, calling it complicated and dangerous. It most certainly can be, and we want to help.

I believe you would benefit from that help best at your stage of vaping by placing yourself in the hands of a knowledgeable vaping outfit that really DOES care, and about HELPING you not ONLY making money. That would be part two. Google shops in your area that specialize in harm reduction, go there tell them you are new to vaping and need help.

Anna

 

[stols001]

K, just saw you did fine on the first drop in coil tank. Start vaping that one and then send your RTA to @vapdivrr for HELP.

Anna

 

[papergoblin]

I didn't blame the tank in any of my posts, I have done a lot of research believe it or not, but it's impossible to know it all, and I do know about PG and I know about VG and I know each ones characteristics.
I checked and the one I have been trying lately is 30PG/70VG

I blame myself for everything nowhere did I blame anyone nor anything I'm obviously missing something, my point is in the TL;DR.

Okay earlier you said 70PG/30VG, now the opposite. You still haven't said the nic level not what ohms you have built coils to and what wattage you were running at. I asked you this several times and so has others.

You're getting defensive but aren't telling us the whole story when asked and now 2 different stories (sort of) about the ratio.

So I'll ask this:
1. What brand liquid are you using and flavor?
2. What nic level are you using?
3. What wattage are you vaping at?
4. What size coil are you using (ohms)?
5. What are you using for wick?

If you don't know the answers to all the questions of the top of your head, you need to get a basic device (from a local shop) and start over. Not meaning to be rude, this is just basic stuff, you should know what you are putting in your body and how you are doing it.

I rarely tell people to not vape but honestly, if you're going to demonize it and get defensive. The best thing may be to go to your doctor and work out a quit plan for nicotine. There are many replacement therapies, as well as support groups. Since getting off tobacco is the main concern and as you've said saving money, a traditional approach may be you best option.

No matter the route you choose, understand this, you will NOT be able to QUIT tobacco alone. It takes mind power AND support to quit smoking. Many of us here have been vaping for a long time but still come here for support and motivation, still. Tobacco is no different than any other drug or alcohol, it's all addictive and takes work everyday to do better/different.

So far you've had a bad experience but instead of coming here and saying you need help or asking what you're doing wrong, you come with an attitude. You say you have all these problems, yet haven't seen a doctor, talked to a local shop, or even stopped to see what the problem is.

I have a hard time believing you've been vaping 6 months and honestly I'm thinking your research has been to watch cloud videos and to see what's popular. This is starting to seem more and more like a troll thread. I think you need help by professionals then and only then, hit up a local shop and let them help you in person.

May be I'm wrong and if I am I apologize but until you can answer the 5 above questions, honestly I'm going to doubt your whole story.

 

[vapdivrr]

It's a geekvape ammit 22,24GA kanthal A1 wire, cotton bacon v2 wick,usually 0.3-0.6 ohms,the one in the picture is a parallel coil,I always do dtl and I prefer higher wattage for more vapor and flavor, about 35-45w.

I don't think it's my body not agreeing with vaping, I had a great experience vaping on the stick v8 the first time with the coil it came in with it was a blast, after that it sucked tho :/

And thanks a lot for the proposition btw you are the man.

Thanks for the info and like I said, my offer stands anytime....because I have been rebuilding for years, I can certainly put a few different builds in your tank, to see what would work best.. .think about it.....what nic you vaping?

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[Letitia]

Okay earlier you said 70PG/30VG, now the opposite. You still haven't said the nic level not what ohms you have built coils to and what wattage you were running at. I asked you this several times and so has others.

You're getting defensive but aren't telling us the whole story when asked and now 2 different stories (sort of) about the ratio.

So I'll ask this:
1. What brand liquid are you using and flavor?
2. What nic level are you using?
3. What wattage are you vaping at?
4. What size coil are you using (ohms)?
5. What are you using for wick?

If you don't know the answers to all the questions of the top of your head, you need to get a basic device (from a local shop) and start over. Not meaning to be rude, this is just basic stuff, you should know what you are putting in your body and how you are doing it.

I rarely tell people to not vape but honestly, if you're going to demonize it and get defensive. The best thing may be to go to your doctor and work out a quit plan for nicotine. There are many replacement therapies, as well as support groups. Since getting off tobacco is the main concern and as you've said saving money, a traditional approach may be you best option.

No matter the route you choose, understand this, you will NOT be able to QUIT tobacco alone. It takes mind power AND support to quit smoking. Many of us here have been vaping for a long time but still come here for support and motivation, still. Tobacco is no different than any other drug or alcohol, it's all addictive and takes work everyday to do better/different.

So far you've had a bad experience but instead of coming here and saying you need help or asking what you're doing wrong, you come with an attitude. You say you have all these problems, yet haven't seen a doctor, talked to a local shop, or even stopped to see what the problem is.

I have a hard time believing you've been vaping 6 months and honestly I'm thinking your research has been to watch cloud videos and to see what's popular. This is starting to seem more and more like a troll thread. I think you need help by professionals then and only then, hit up a local shop and let them help you in person.

May be I'm wrong and if I am I apologize but until you can answer the 5 above questions, honestly I'm going to doubt your whole story.

OP answered some of these questions while you were typing.

 

[Fidola13]

So I have been trying to vape for atleast 6 months now.I started with a smok stick v8 wich was garbage for a lot of reasons, and now I recently bought a regulated mod and a RTA.

When I did so I thought the expensive coils burning in 2 days and non-stop buying them was over, and that everything would be great.How mistaken I was.

First making coils was hard for me, I have never been good at crafting, but with some practice I got good.Now my setup looked ok after researching everything and putting it into practice, but the flavor was awful, disgusting.

I wondered why, I kept researching and researching, hand oil, machine oil, dry burning or not, wicking, drain problems, working up the coil starting with low W and going up, etc...

So I kept trying and trying I didn't expect to be good at it the first time, so I didn't mind the hassle.

Anyways after a month it still tastes like crap, I have tried everything and done a lot of research and it still sucks.The best part is that my throat is irritated, my tonsils and mouth bell are swolen and I spit blood from time to time all thanks to vaping, cool.

Everyone seems to really think it's so much better than tobacco but vaping is so hard to get into and gives you so much headaches that I don't know what normal person would get into it for the sake of quitting cigarettes, because it seems that if you want to have a good vaping experience you have to be an expert in the field if you don't want to spend even more money on vaping than when you used to smoke.

Now, I really like to look into the stuff I'm getting into, and I spent a lot of time researching about vaping.But that's me, what person would be willing to spend so much time getting info just to quit smoking/start vaping?People wanna vape, no one wants to research so much stuff just to be able to basically inhale tasty vapor.Most people will have bad vaping experiences, vaping is way too difficult and in early stages that it seems to not be worth getting into because all you do is lose money.

TL;DR: Vaping is too damn complicated and potentially dangerous if done incorrectly, so it kinda sucks.

I can’t get much easier than the Joytech Exceed D19 that I started with. Add juice & change the coil after a month or so.

I too like to research everything I get into. Probably a bit obsessively. But I this case
Keep It Simple to start with.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

sara

 

[OlderNDirt]

I had a great experience vaping on the stick v8 the first time with the coil it came in with it was a blast, after that it sucked tho :/

Since you started with "a great experience", I'm going to focus on that. The Stick V8 comes with the M-2 0.15Ω coil preinstalled and an extra M-2 0.25Ω coil for an extra. There is not a huge difference between the two. Assuming you primed and broke in the first, you did the same with the second? Did you buy a second coil? Did you only try those 2 coils? I don't care what brand, getting a "bad" coil is always a possibility. You went from great to sucked with the only change being the coil, something that should be fixable.

If you can get the Stick V8 back to great (or at least workable), that will keep you vaping while sorting out building (hopefully taking advantage of @vapdivrr 's generous offer! ).

 

[bacc.vap]

When you say you're burning up a coil in 2 days it sounds to me like your liquid has particulate in it that gunk up the coil and create that burning taste/smell. I'm using a liquid right now that does that. What liquids(s) are you using or have used when this happens?

 

[Walee]

Coughing up blood is nothing to play with. Get medical help and get it fixed. I have no idea what's going on with you but if you are convinced it's vaping, quit vaping! You should be experiencing none of these symptoms. Especially at six months things should be getting a lot better not worse. Something is amiss and you need to nail it down. Nothing is for everybody. Maybe vaping for whatever reason is not for you. Regardless, get the symptoms stabilized and hopefully you will also find reason for the symptoms. Vape related or no they gotta go.

 

[Caesar77]

Thanks for the info and like I said, my offer stands anytime....because I have been rebuilding for years, I can certainly put a few different builds in your tank, to see what would work best.. .think about it.....what nic you vaping?

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I mostly vape at 3mg since I vape a lot so I don't want to go overboard with the nicotine, but sometimes I use 6mg because my fav liquids at 3mg are out of stock.

Here is a pic of a "build" that I just did, I fired it at 10w after priming and and the smell is awful, it's supossed to be watermelon but it smells like rotten watermelon, I can't explain it, but just by the smell I can tell it will not be a good experience trying to vape on it.I know it's not perfect but I don't think I'm doing anything terribly wrong.I would appreciate if you gave me your opinion.

I live in europe btw not sure where are you from but I guess from USA, so we are pretty far away.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I mostly vape at 3mg since I vape a lot so I don't want to go overboard with the nicotine, but sometimes I use 6mg because my fav liquids at 3mg are out of stock.

Here is a pic of a "build" that I just did, I fired it at 10w after priming and and the smell is awful, it's supossed to be watermelon but it smells like rotten watermelon, I can't explain it, but just by the smell I can tell it will not be a good experience trying to vape on it.I know it's not perfect but I don't think I'm doing anything terribly wrong.I would appreciate if you gave me your opinion.

I live in europe btw not sure where are you from but I guess from USA, so we are pretty far away.

Try a 6 or 7 wrap spaced on a 2.5 mm bit and see if it gets any better.

 

[MrStik]

I don't do kanthal anymore. I do Nichrome80. I used to coil my own coils, but now I buy prebuilt coils. I use coilology 7 in 1 and it is about 15 dollars for 42 premium coils. Just install, clip and wick. It has been working for me.

I would try some 70/30 VG to PG instead of what you have. PG gives the harsh throat hits. Vaping is only complicated until you get it down. I have faith you will get it down. Good luck

 

[Caesar77]

Okay earlier you said 70PG/30VG, now the opposite. You still haven't said the nic level not what ohms you have built coils to and what wattage you were running at. I asked you this several times and so has others.

You're getting defensive but aren't telling us the whole story when asked and now 2 different stories (sort of) about the ratio.

So I'll ask this:
1. What brand liquid are you using and flavor?
2. What nic level are you using?
3. What wattage are you vaping at?
4. What size coil are you using (ohms)?
5. What are you using for wick?

If you don't know the answers to all the questions of the top of your head, you need to get a basic device (from a local shop) and start over. Not meaning to be rude, this is just basic stuff, you should know what you are putting in your body and how you are doing it.

I rarely tell people to not vape but honestly, if you're going to demonize it and get defensive. The best thing may be to go to your doctor and work out a quit plan for nicotine. There are many replacement therapies, as well as support groups. Since getting off tobacco is the main concern and as you've said saving money, a traditional approach may be you best option.

No matter the route you choose, understand this, you will NOT be able to QUIT tobacco alone. It takes mind power AND support to quit smoking. Many of us here have been vaping for a long time but still come here for support and motivation, still. Tobacco is no different than any other drug or alcohol, it's all addictive and takes work everyday to do better/different.

So far you've had a bad experience but instead of coming here and saying you need help or asking what you're doing wrong, you come with an attitude. You say you have all these problems, yet haven't seen a doctor, talked to a local shop, or even stopped to see what the problem is.

I have a hard time believing you've been vaping 6 months and honestly I'm thinking your research has been to watch cloud videos and to see what's popular. This is starting to seem more and more like a troll thread. I think you need help by professionals then and only then, hit up a local shop and let them help you in person.

May be I'm wrong and if I am I apologize but until you can answer the 5 above questions, honestly I'm going to doubt your whole story.

I'm not a troll and no my research didn't consist in watching Rip Trippers and searching for trendy things

The brands I buy are probably unfamiliar to you since I'm from europe,the only notorious one is halo tribeca.The rest are drops druid's blessing, drops fausto's deal, the ark spider/dragonfly/wasp.

Last ones are all made in europe, so again they might be unknown to you, drops is quality, not better than halo but they are good, ark is kinda cheap and new so I don't know but they taste great, very sweet tho, coils don't last long with those.


2)Nicotine
3mg,sometimes 6mg
3)Wattage
35-45
4)Ohms
Always between 0.3 and 0.6 ohms
5)Wick
Cotton Bacon V2

 

[Gramdogg]

Looks like you should pull the coil up alot so the air is hitting mid/bottom level. Folks are just defensive when you blame vaping, if it is diagnosed as something it may be from vaping regardless of what some may think it is still somewhat harmful but it wouldn't be anything you wouldn't have got if you continued smoking and most likely was something already developing when you decided to switch. Continuing is not going to "help" you its just better then smoking is.

 

[Caesar77]

Since you started with "a great experience", I'm going to focus on that. The Stick V8 comes with the M-2 0.15Ω coil preinstalled and an extra M-2 0.25Ω coil for an extra. There is not a huge difference between the two. Assuming you primed and broke in the first, you did the same with the second? Did you buy a second coil? Did you only try those 2 coils? I don't care what brand, getting a "bad" coil is always a possibility. You went from great to sucked with the only change being the coil, something that should be fixable.

If you can get the Stick V8 back to great (or at least workable), that will keep you vaping while sorting out building (hopefully taking advantage of @vapdivrr 's generous offer! ).

I've bought about 10 coils if not more, that's the main reason I made the change to a RTA/Regulated mod, I recently calculated the wattage the stick V8 can reach and it's about 117W (iirc) when the battery is fully charged, thats too much and I can see now why the coils burnt so fast,the stick V8 is fine I think, but the coils just suck, atleast in my experience or maybe it is just that I vape way too much for the wattage that thing had.

Out of all the coils I bought I think only 2 or 3 lasted more than 2-3 days while giving good flavor, the rest gave me an awful experience, incredibly harsh hits, spitback, and what not.

Idk maybe I'm doomed and something won't let me vape in peace lol.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Where did you purchase the wire you are using to wrap coils with? Try different wire totally new and from a know good vendor. I buy coils and never have had problems, but is sounds like everything else has been discussed here except that.

 

[papergoblin]

I mostly vape at 3mg since I vape a lot so I don't want to go overboard with the nicotine, but sometimes I use 6mg because my fav liquids at 3mg are out of stock.

Here is a pic of a "build" that I just did, I fired it at 10w after priming and and the smell is awful, it's supossed to be watermelon but it smells like rotten watermelon, I can't explain it, but just by the smell I can tell it will not be a good experience trying to vape on it.I know it's not perfect but I don't think I'm doing anything terribly wrong.I would appreciate if you gave me your opinion.

I live in europe btw not sure where are you from but I guess from USA, so we are pretty far away.

Are you pre burning the coils before you wick, to get out hot spots? The pics don't look like you are. Also try coils that touch, no space between and do 5-7 wraps. Then prefire the coil before wicking, squeeze it with tweezers and then refire. Keep prefiring until it glows from center out, then let it cool wick and vape.

I think you aren't getting out the hotspots and are burning juice and wick when you try to vape. If you aren't sure what I'm saying, do a youtube search of removing coil hot spots also look up videos of twisted messes doing coils. Do go crazy like he does but look at how he gets everything going.