Hi Andria,
Yes, and that is because alcohol leads to a real physical dependency, and any nicotine dependence is psychological. That doesn't mean that physiological brain mechanisms are not involved, it is just that the nicotine really doesn't have much to do with the dependence, since what smokers are dependent on is the whole behavioral chain.
The mere fact that the article discusses 'nicotine dependence' exposes it as a fraud. If you want to know the 'truth' look at the real peer-reviewed literature on nicotine. There is nothing there that even remotely suggests that it directly leads to dependence.
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potential being the key word you conveniently always leave out and that nicotine has also been shown to have negative neurological effects *the other side of the coin you always conveniently leave out* in fetuses (and also long term effects on those children just as an FYI) ~logically nicotine consumed by pregnant mothers
You attacked with illogical nonsense in the face of an answer that did not go along with your fist banging generalization about nicotine
Making an argument while leaving out half the details doesn't make your argument correct by omissions 'just saying
Sorry to interrupt the argument guys, but does anyone know anything about the effects of nicotine on blood pressure ?
Never had issues with high blood pressure when i was smoking, but the last checkup i had borderline high blood pressure. Bought a blood pressure monitor and have been checking at home. When i don't vape my blood pressure seems to drop to normal levels, but when i vape again my blood pressure seems to go up. I'm a little confused since i am sure i inhaled more nicotine when i smoked. It might be that i am getting older, but i see a direct relation to vaping as well. Is there anything else besides nicotine that might have an effect on blood pressure ?
Nicotine raises blood pressure. I thought everyone knew that...
The nicotine in cigarette smoke is a big part of the problem. It raises your blood pressure and heart rate, narrows your arteries and hardens their walls, and makes your blood more likely to clot. It stresses your heart and sets you up for a heart attack or stroke.
High Blood Pressure and Smoking: How to Quit
The activists will say the nic in e-cigs is special, or that it is the tobacco, but it really is one side effect of nicotine...
The nicotine in cigarettes and other tobacco products makes your blood vessels get narrow and your heart beat faster, which makes your blood pressure get higher. If you quit smoking and using tobacco products, you can lower your blood pressure and your risk for heart disease and heart attack.
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No one here has any incontrovertible proof that nic is not addictive in any form regardless how it is introduced into the body. You can blow all the hot air you want.
Speaking of which, if I end up enjoying nicotine, I should start stocking up on it very soon, as the upcoming 2016 EU directive will effectively ban e-cigs as they are now EU-wide.
Can a 72mg/ml nicotine VG solution be freezed as is? Won't it expand and break the bottle? How long is it viable/safe to store it for?
Sure, but they could easily impose taxation without burying everything in red tape and stringent regulations which will effectively destroy e-cigs as they are now.
As of May 2016 in the EU/EEA:
- E-cigs and refill containers must have a mechanism to ensure leak free refilling (not possible with current tech, banning all currently existing products)
- Replaceable heads are likely to be banned. Under the new rules changing the head on your atomizer might be considered ‘tampering’.
- Refill containers over 10ml – Banned
- Maximum size of cartridges or tanks 2ml
- Electronic cigarettes must provide a consistent dose of nicotine, so variable-voltage and variable-watt products will probably be banned
- Maximum nicotine strength of e-liquid is 20mg
Bloody nanny state...
- If a “competent authority” believes any product may present a health risk in any 3 EU countries (there are 28) they may be prohibited in all.
Interesting...
As per your second link
Although nicotine is an addictive substance, e-cigarette vapor appears to be less addictive than cigarette smoke.
Less addictive doesn't mean not addictive, as the activists profess. Add in the act of vaping, and I stand by my premise that e-cigs are addictive to many vapers...
That nicotine is addictive? Yes, it is...
I have also said many are addicted to vaping, whether with nicotine or without...
You don't think people can become addicted to chewing tobacco? Wow...
Is that the one where a professor was getting his students addicted to nicotine?
Seems a lot more reasonable than brainwashing students to believe they will do better if they get on nicotine...
Yes, e cigs were around in the 1990s...
I don't think my nicotine dependence is entirely psychological, since I'm still using WTA, and experienced UNGODLY cravings until I added the WTA -- even though I really didn't want to smoke at all. Once I added the WTA, the cravings vanished completely. Of course, that was while still recuperating from the appendectomy, and I have IBS, making that recuperation much longer and more uncomfortable than for someone without IBS; the "nicotine cocktail" was apparently required by my ailing colon, but unfortunately the only mechanism the body has for giving the signal for what it needs... is cravings. Which are very, very different from "thoughts." (ETA: "thoughts" are like being pestered by a mosquito -- true cravings are more like being strafed by a B-52.)
Andria
No, cravings are thoughts. They might be thoughts with more emotional and motivational content than other thoughts, however, they are thoughts.