Vaping permission

[serendipitee]

As a smoker, I was always extremely courteous, not smoking around others and/or asking random people in the vicinity if my smoke would bother them. If they said yes, I did not smoke.

I am very new to vaping and so far, I have a completely different mindset. I can think of nothing I feel more adamantly about at the moment, except maybe politics.

At least for the time being, I have no intention of requesting permission to vape anywhere I choose. Why? IT'S NOT SMOKE AND I AM NOT SMOKING! There is no smell. I view it like having to ask to breathe and I'm not going to do it.

I read another thread that appeared to be started by someone who was not a vaper, where the majority if not everyone was all about asking permission. I would have posted this there, but the thread was closed.

Curious how other vapers feel. Thanks.

 

[Smokachino]

Yeah, I know that thread

I really do understand what you're saying, but IMO we vapers don't need to act all "in your face" about our perceived right to vape when and where we choose. WE know it's not smoke, but not everyone does. There are enough detractors already and I don't want to give them any more ammo to try to shut us down. As with any behavior around others, courtesy is key. Just my

 

[steved5600]

Well in the long run you may want to modify that. What happens if you don't and they get insulted they say something to the management and then the NO VAPING signs go up. I have a support group I go to and someone made an anonymous suggestion that we ban it. They don't know it won't harm them plus you get some yahoo who is a control freak who can't stand to see us get away with what they think might be wrong. What I did was ask the management in a Movie theater if it was OK and they said sure. Then that person has no place to go. If I had not asked who knows. Just a thought. My q=worth. The more we antagonize the more likely the misinformed are to pass laws or put up signs.

 

[Sugarbear]

I am the same way... When I was smoking there were so many times that you would get that old couple walking by you when you were already smoking in the spot you were in for the past five minutes. It never failed.. you would hear that absolute fake cough like you were simply there smoking to bother them. Funny thing about somatic behavior!! Just exist to piss you off - And I was a considerate smoker, just like you.
Now and then... While vaping the same thing occurs, as if the cloud of vaper coming out of my mouth has somehow magically transformed into a harsh byproduct of combustion and It affected their blessed little delicate lungs. Sorry folks, in all instances I am not talking about a person cough as if they were standing next to me at speaking distance. I am talking about me sitting at a table on the sidewalk and the fools are getting out of their vehicles maybe 15 to 20 feet away... It never fails. This last time during the weekend, I had it ... I usually just shut it and mind myself as they go away but I couldn't help myself.. I simply said get off it ... You know darn well what I am doing hasn't affected you what so ever!! Got a surprised look at first.... Little irate stare and then, they went about their business.
I agree that a little attitude toward smokers about smoking in the public eye but vaping is an entirely different story. They don't have to care or be as informed as we are... But I expect a little respect just as much as they expect respect towards them from smokers. Just wanted to rant a little , I guess... Just foolish when you hear that cough and you know it is just fake ... Like they are really fooling anyone.

 

[Talyon]

Besides courtesy should be always followed, Vapeing was created as an alternative to smoking, IMHO not to Vape ridiculously in others faces. If you are nice most are nice back.

Do as u wish I'm not your Dad, but the path of courtesy should be followed at all times.

Many Vapers And non Vapers are allergic to PG or VG so u should consider this.

 

[ShariR]

Hi. From being a smoker for the past 40 years and seeing how hostile the US is towards smoking, I would probably ask permission before vaping in any place that does not allow smoking. I have learned in the 3 days reading on this site that vaping will not harm others, but before that I had no idea what it was. So I would expect that the general public would not have a clue. Courtesy to others should also come into play. If people do not understand it, they may prohibit it out of fear.

 

[Whosback]

To be honest it is a courtesy to actually ask before you vape. If you are in any business or any body else's property. They have a right to tell you no even if it's because they don't like the look of it. I am not saying cower or pretend like you are doing something wrong, but you should still respect the rights of the property owner. We gain nothing by acting like defiant punks.

You can even have a chance to explain vaping to others if you ask first. If you vape first and ask questions later you end up looking like you are trying to defend something that you should not be doing instead of explaining what it is you are asking to do. Just some food for thought.

 

[patkin]

There are lots of threads like this and my responses have gotten shorter and shorter. But I'll take a deep breath (I can do that now) and spend a little more time. As a smoker I would have dearly loved it if others had been a little considerate of me but most weren't because, having become a moral issue, smokers didn't deserve any human respect. They were, somehow, morally corrupt and to be treated as such.... like trash. Why on earth, as a vaper, would I treat others the way I was treated... with the same lack of humanity? Not only have two wrongs never made a right but I choose to behave in a way that I respect in anyone, self included... ya know... that old "do unto others" thing. Just for example: Someone I'm near or their nearby loved one might have asthma or other breathing difficulties and feel panic seeing what looks like smoke. To anyone inexperienced, vapor looks like smoke. Asking if its okay first would prevent that kind of shock for them. No, just because I vape does not entitle me to be "in your face" about it. The more rude vapers there are, and there will be more and more of them, all the more likely vaping will be banned. It will just give the ANTZ more ammunition. I watched it happen with smoking and history tends to repeat because people don't change. Speaking very, very, frankly... as a vaper I really don't want the reputation that's going to be garnered by flat out rude people pinned on me either. The more entitled rudeness I hear about among vapers, the more likely I won't vape in public.

 

[ShariR]

Besides courtesy should be always followed, Vapeing was created as an alternative to smoking, IMHO not to Vape ridiculously in others faces. If you are nice most are nice back.

Do as u wish I'm not your Dad, but the path of courtesy should be followed at all times.

Many Vapers And non Vapers are allergic to PG or VG so u should consider this.

Are you saying that some people may be allergic to the vapor I produce when I vape? I am new to this and did not know that.

 

[Texasman2011]

Are you saying that some people may be allergic to the vapor I produce when I vape? I am new to this and did not know that.

yes, there are actually people out there that are allergic to PG and VG. My mother for example. We never knew about it until we bought our first kit last year. it was from South Beach Smoke. there is something in the PG and VG that she is allergic to.

 

[ca_girl2tx_girl]

If I am at someone's house I will ask if it is okay and so far they have been fine with it and have become interested in them. One of the reasons I asked my friend is her daughter has breathing problems and although she was tucked away in bed, I wanted to make sure it was okay.

 

[szot]

Many people are very ignorant about vaping and what it actually is, so a little common sense and polite education can go a long ways....I recently was at Ft Myers airport and vaping for 2 hrs sitting at the bar with no problems or complaints...then when I arrived at Hartford CT airport and TSA grabbed me while vaping at the baggage area, but once I explained it wasn't smoke or tobacco then they were fine with it...then last week I was at Fenway park watching the Red Sox play and the security there politely told me NO VAPING, which I had no issues complying with...after the game I walked over to Boston Works bar and the bartender proceeded to attempt to lecture me on the illegal use of Ecigs in the entire state of Massachusetts which was totally false, which he totally ignored and played his power trip when I tried to politely educate this young man..due to this bartenders ego tripping attitude I decided to go elsewhere across the street where the bartenders had no problems with my vaping....needless to say, use a lil common sense when challenged but also try and educate people without offending them...

In Massachusetts, vaping is not well known and not a sight often seen...and most ppl are not educated about it...and shops are far and few

In Florida, its the opposite and many ppl are vaping and there are shops at almost every corner and its widely accepted and understood..

On Southwest airlines, its clearly marked "NO Electronic cigarettes allowed"....

 

[Desdenova]

I still ask when I am in someones house that I do not know well, and almost always get a positive response. I have wanted to use in stores and such, but have not tried to do so.
I still remember lighting up an analog a few years back at disney's animal kingdom, A guy came out of his way to give me his two cents worth. This was outside on a trail, I gave my two cents back!
How long will it be before we have to listen to the lies of how dangerous second hand vape is?

 

[Hippieangst]

If it's outside, I'd say go right a head and position yourself to stand upwind from the folks. Inside, we need to be polite and respectful.

 

[randyrocker]

As a smoker, I was always extremely courteous, not smoking around others and/or asking random people in the vicinity if my smoke would bother them. If they said yes, I did not smoke.

I am very new to vaping and so far, I have a completely different mindset. I can think of nothing I feel more adamantly about at the moment, except maybe politics.


Curious how other vapers feel. Thanks.

I stopped smoking 2 months ago and so when I do go out I do not take out my large VV/VW's so it does not look like a scary device I leave my large devices at home Itaste SVD, K200, Vmax V3 etc I just bring out my 1100mah Ego's so they do not scare people but I have had no probs and vape in all restaurants. No law I vape simple..

 

[Glen Snyder]

When I smoked I never lit up or asked if it was OK to smoke in someones house. Mainly because I never smoked in my own house. I would simply excuse myself and do what I had to do outside. I also never smoked in public where it was prohibited, but felt free to smoke in designated areas or far enough away from people where it wasn't going to bother someone.

As a vaper I'm just going to follow the same thing now except for not vaping in my own house.

 

[serendipitee]

To be clear, I was not speaking of doing any of the following:
Vaping in anyone else's home except my family and close friends,
Being "in your face" to anyone about vaping,
Antagonizing anyone,
Acting like a defiant punk,
Vaping right in anyone's face,
or
Being flat out rude to anyone.

I am always nice!

If someone asked me to stop, I probably would or I'd leave the premises.
My plan is to fly under the radar as I have done so far. That said, at least for the time being, I don't intend to ask permission in public places.

 

[hottierockstar]

i see it less as "asking for permission" and more of being a considerate human being...vaping or otherwise.
HUGE difference between "can i?" and "please let me know if this is bothering you"

i don't vape in closed spaces and i don't vape indoors while anyone around me is eating...just my thing.

 

[pechep]

I've attended the senate judiciary hearing in Sacramento, which had disregarded the health effects on others although a neutral party from USC research had said that the vapor produced does harm biotic life. The MAJOR point made by the senate head was that others will see this. Who were they concerned about? Children. Our government (USA) has made clear decisions to not advertise cigarettes in ads or articles or commercials viewed by minors. I don't support these views, however there is validity to this seeing many non smoking minors taking up the habit of using an "e-hooka" with no nicotine.

I don't have children, never wanted one, but say if I did... I wouldn't want them to be around inconsiderate smokers, or even people that blow vapor or lock thier children in a car while they fill it up with vapor. I had suffered a hotboxed car with my parent through my childhood given the excuse that "the freeway will blow ash onto you". Like my mother I became a smoker (a good statistic for every smoking family), and wanting to quit I vaped. Now if you think vaping is such a step down from smoking, why step up and advertise to minors?

I know everyone is a free willed individual, however we all influence eachother. Next time you vape in public ask yourself - who am I harming?

stay calm and keep vaping my friends

 

[wv2win]

Why do these discussions always come down to the extremes? I'm really sick and tired of some of the "righteous" on ECF using the phrase "blowing vaper in someone's face". Who is advocating that? No one. That's just a "straw man" arguement. And we as a group cannot be responsible for the idiotic behavior of the few. Nor should we "act" like vaping is the same as smoking just because there are a few inconsiderate people in every sub-group in the country.

Since vaping is not harmful to those in the general proximity of someone who vapes, why can't we agree to vape openly BUT respectfully and with common sense. If we do that, we will be viewed positively, we will demonstrate the vast difference between smoking and vaping and we will create more opportunities to educate the uninformed.

Note: being respectful and using common sense does mean that under certain circumstances one should ask for permission. I wouldn't vape in someones home without explaining what it was and wasn't, demonstrating and then asking for permission.