Vapor Flask V3 DNA40 Clone thread

[squag]

What model number was the silver?

reference number 1659 from 3fvape

 

[iCGM]

This seller is claiming these are clones he's been selling for weeks. I don't know about you guys, but I remember seeing those exact pictures in this thread somewhere. And looks an awful lot like the exact authentic device. I don't think this is real... Thoughts?

Vapor Flask V3 DNA 40 with Temperature Control Pre Order Sale | eBay

 

[Tpat591]

He has been selling pre-orders since January 20th or so. Doesn't mean he has delivered a single one to a customer & same one 3F has just listed as a 5 day pre-order.

 

[Forensic]

also he's saying that his flasks are coming with a floating 510 pin. maybe he found a source for weidea clones and is still waiting for them to actually release them.

€: spring loaded not floating it's late here guys

 

[remyrem]

a floating 510 pin doesn't make sense but i do see the "Spring-Loaded Brass Contact"

 

[Tpat591]

Upon speaking with Summer on 3/6 @ 4:00 am est, I had him pull one of his production units & he found it is indeed a fixed center pin.

 

[BlueridgeDog]

How about we get a group buy together?

 

[Croak]

Little tip, if your K-Flask starts showing a battery charging indicator when it's not plugged in, it's probably because you have tightened your battery caps too much. Don't ask me how I know this.

The fix is to get a long screwdriver and back the two screws in the battery tube out a bit, since over-tightening the bottom caused them to thread in.

Moral of the story, don't let OCD get the better of you, if the battery cap slots are diagonal when barely snug, let ' em be. They don't have to be straight up and down.

Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

 

[Ian444]

What do you do, if when you park your car, all the valve stems aren't in the same position? Sorry couldn't help myself

 

[mkopp88]

I finally got my flask from focalecig. It is the Kangxin and has the usb charging port. It works great but the screen is a little off center, I'm not that picky no it's not a big deal. the 510 looks like brass with an adjustable pin.

 

[Tpat591]

remyrem:

I never said that 3F lied. I said I contacted Summer from Waidea who sent Prototype pics to Nicole last month that essentially matched the Silver unit listed on 3FVape right down to the un-slotted 510 and brass button (with battery caps that extended from the body of the flask).

Summer was surprised by the listing & asked me if 3FVape had the units in stock. I sent him links to the listings & told him that you or someone else said they were coming from Sunlay. He said they supply Sunlay, & the units his company is producing are equipped with Single Slotted SS 510s with spring loaded self adjusting center pins.

He Broke off the exchange to go to a meeting & said that he would get back to me later but sent those pics to me of their production units to verify what he was saying. He was the same guy who put the video up of the original flask in the past labelled as a clone so I have some issues trusting his word.

I have no doubt that if 3FVape says the 510 is fixed that it is on these early units now being listed, they are not lying.

I believe they are selling off the early production prototypes now and will switch the listing to self adjusting pins when the early production stock is sold off.

I'm just passing along information I am learning to the community in a timely manner.

Summer from Waidea Skyped me back tonight & as usual upon questioning his story fell apart again. Here is what I learned:

1) The chip in the Waidea Fask is not the same one as in the Kangxin Units. Summer said they tried to buy the Kangxin chips but they were too expensive so they developed their own. It is reportedly produced by Waidea. (Waidea is also the manufacturer of the Vapor Shark rDNA40 that has been listed on 3FVape forever but has failed to ship repeatedly due to Non functional temperature control, freezes and screen scrambles on the chip.

2) Upon repeated questioning by me about the center pin that 3FVape has listed as fixed and not spring loaded as Summer Represented he finally pulled one of his production unit and he learned it was indeed fixed as 3FVape represented. Summer was giving me bad information again.

3) While Summer claimed the Black unit on 3FVape was theirs, he said the new silver unit with the brass fire button and unslotted 510 was not until I emailed him the prototype pics he sent Nicole which match exactly (except the battery caps). Suddenly he remembered the pics, but never explained why the Silver units listed on 3FVape do not match the production unit pics he sent me.

My advice is to give this unit a while to mature before ordering. I am sorry for the bad information I was given by Summer again.

Lastly regarding the quality of the chips produced by Waidea the only reliable information I have is what was sent to me by 3FVape on 2/13/15 about Waidea's Vapor Shark rDNA40 TC:

And about the Vapor Shark which is scheduled to reach our warehouse on Feb. 12 2015.

Yesterday, Chinese time, we went to our supplier's factory, and tested the products they made. Unfortunately, we found serious quality issues on some products. The temperature control function does not work. And some screen were scrambled after a while. And the issues just occur sometimes and are not easy to reproduce. Although we are eager to fulfill your orders, we feel that we can't deliver this batch of products to you. Currently there is only one factory who can make this product. The other one claimed they could. But it turns out that their product does not have the temperature control function after our investigation.

We have postponed delivery of this product once before, and now it's the second. So blame us. We know that it's very very unprofessional for us to do that. We have learned our lessons. We will be more cautious to select suppliers in the future.

I would rather kill myself than writing this email if I don't have to. Blame us, if you feel disappointed. We deserver your criticism.

We have no other way but to communicate with the only factory again and again. Due to the quality issues, they can't promise a delivery date now. The estimation is March 2015, no concrete date yet. We will keep updating the product page once we get advancement.

To sum up, there is no factory who can make quality-stable Vapor Shark rDNA 40 styled products now. We have no other choice but to wait for the only factory. And the only information we can get is they could deliver on early March.

Let us know if you want to cancel, change, or wait for your order. We will do anything we could to help you out.

Again, sorry for the inconvenience.

Kind Regards,

Gina

 

[Forensic]

After considering to upgrade my 74.99 (1660) vapor flask i sent a mail to 3fvape asking about the used chips in the 76.99 black device.

Dear *****,

The manufacturer was differen, but the chip is same.

But if you still need upgrade, please buy 1 credit below:
http://www.3fvape.com/misc/11111-extra-1...PWYKi7R2zc

thanks

Kate

so i don't know who's the one who's wrong informed,but somehow i don't really trust Summer while 3fvape didn't state any wrong facts about the devices they sell.

€: this took place on the 3/3/2015 so idk whether things changed or not after upgrading my order in the first place I downgraded to the 1660 again because I realized i don't want to be a guinea pig for this device.

 

[Tpat591]

After considering to upgrade my 74.99 (1660) vapor flask i sent a mail to 3fvape asking about the used chips in the 76.99 black device.



so i don't know who's the one who's wrong informed,but somehow i don't really trust Summer while 3fvape didn't state any wrong facts about the devices they sell.

€: this took place on the 3/3/2015 so idk whether things changed or not after upgrading my order in the first place I downgraded to the 1660 again because I realized i don't want to be a guinea pig for this device.

Summer gave bad info to me which I relayed to the community that I am retracting. 3FVape gave you correct info.

My apologies.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

After considering to upgrade my 74.99 (1660) vapor flask i sent a mail to 3fvape asking about the used chips in the 76.99 black device.



so i don't know who's the one who's wrong informed,but somehow i don't really trust Summer while 3fvape didn't state any wrong facts about the devices they sell.

€: this took place on the 3/3/2015 so idk whether things changed or not after upgrading my order in the first place I downgraded to the 1660 again because I realized i don't want to be a guinea pig for this device.

That annoying! She told me I had to buy 2 credits....lol
for what its worth I ended up sticking with the 1660 as I don't really want a fixed 510..

 

[Forensic]

Summer gave bad info to me which I relayed to the community that I am retracting. 3FVape gave you correct info.

My apologies.

no need to apologize!
I'm just quoting what the staff told me. do you actually know for sure that summers info is wrong?
Everything i want is everyone to get a good working clone and not buy some overpriced trash.

That annoying! She told me I had to buy 2 credits....lol
for what its worth I ended up sticking with the 1660 as I don't really want a fixed 510..

yeah I actually upgraded to the ss version when it was only $75.99 the price was marked up for another dollar within a few hours

 

[Hammy75]

I should buy from you then LOL

So what's your experience with the different wire thickness? I did some research and it seems that 28 is easier to work with. Any advice is welcome

Yeah I was thinking it was over kill but for about $2 you go from 50' to 100' and I might as well pay shipping once. Plus I have already given some away to friends who have recently gotten DNA40s but didn't get wire yet. I have mainly used the 28 and twisted 32. I like both. Will probably try the 30 this weekend.

 

[Tpat591]

no need to apologize!
I'm just quoting what the staff told me. do you actually know for sure that summers info is wrong?
Everything i want is everyone to get a good working clone and not buy some overpriced trash.

Easiest way to figure out if it is same chip as Kangxin is to ask 3FVape if the chip displays KX-40D when unit is first turned on.

(Summer told me they tried to get the Kangxin chips but they tried to charge too much so they developed their own).

 

[BlueridgeDog]

Just so you all know about the 3Fvape customer service...I contacted them about an issue with my black one, sent them a video and they had some correspondence with the manufacture and the result is:

Dear James,

We will send you a replacment on next week.

Becuase of manufacturer will send us all the Vapor Flask stocks on next week.

After your replacement sent, we will update all the tracking information to you.

BTW, you can keep your old one and you don't need return to us.

thanks

Kate

This is excellent customer service, better than what I have gotten from many state-side companies.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Just so you all know about the 3Fvape customer service...I contacted them about an issue with my black one, sent them a video and they had some correspondence with the manufacture and the result is:



This is excellent customer service, better than what I have gotten from many state-side companies.

what was the issue btw??

 

[BlueridgeDog]

what was the issue btw??

On the first gen ones, the batteries were wired in such a way as to read each, but fire on one, so that it would show half a charge, but give the weak battery msg.