Vapor Flask V3 DNA40 Clone thread

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Tpat591

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I've had the 3fvape kangxin v3 flask (no usb port) for a few days now and, I have to say it's been great! the temp control works as good as the VS rDNA40 I own. quite pleased I must say...

A few days Ago? Boy you really went away didn't you! Yours was due to be delivered the day you were leaving on the trip but the mailman came & went with no vape mail. Wasn't that like a month or more ago?

Glad to hear you finally got it and are pleased! Was it truly worth the wait since you had what must have been the longest wait out of all of us!?
 
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Got a question for everyone with a Kangxin chip in their flask clone. Have you noticed any refinement? I've been using subtank mini with rba section and a few different drippers and I have not noticed any refinement whatsoever. With subtank mini rba on a VS rdna I get refinement bouncing me up and down .01 ohms.

Are the KX chips touted as refining?
 

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^^^ I doubt if the clone chips do refinement, Evolv's data data sheet states something to the effect that after refinement the resistance on the display is not what the resistance of the coil actually is. I find that kind of puzzling, in fact I find the whole refinement thing a bit puzzling.
Probably connected to board temp, room temp, ect.
 

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We hope it is using the good chip. 3FVape Gina said they were. The other one from 3FVape said they were different. Summer from Waidea said they developed their own when they manufactured it & they sell to Sunlay. 3FVape said Sunlay manufactured it not Waidea. Focal Says Waidea Manufactured it & sold it through Sunlay.

You could go nuts just thinking about it. I personally believe these are all shell companies set up to hide the true identity of the real manufactures from prosecution & believe all the flasks are carrying the same chips & the new flask is just an incremental upgrade but who knows?

Fact is we wont know till someone gets one in their hands and does the same scope trace or takes them both apart & compares the boards,.....
From 3/12:
Skyping with Sumer from Waidea last few nights giving him a hard time about his bad information, unfulfilled prototype delivery dates, unproven chipets, & fixed 510 pins which make his flask a 1:1 clone that is not 1:1. I told him senior members on all the forums were telling people not to buy his units from 3FVape for all the previously stated reasons until some positive reviews started coming in.

I kept telling him he had a serious customer perception problem with his product that he could only solve by sending review units out to reviewers to test and inform the community of their findings. Apparently I got through to him because he told me tonight he got his boss to approve sending a review unit out to Nicole for her to test & review for the community. (I had sent him some of her reviews).......


Just heard back from Nicole & she confirmed that Summer's Boss from Waidea did approve sending her a flask for review & she should get it sometime next week.
It appears we are on the verge of finally getting some reliable feedback on these 1:1 flasks!
She has also stated that 3FVape Gina's assertion that Sunlay is the Manufacturer not Waidea is patently false:

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Apparently 3fvape told you that Sunlay is the real manufacturer of the 1:1 Flask and that Waidea is just reselling? What I can tell you is that is 100% untrue, and is the other way around, Sunlay is the reseller and that is verified. I knew about Waidea's supply to Sunlay even before I saw you post about it. I am sure that it was Sunlay who told 3Fvape that they are the manufacturer, but again that is simply FALSE. Waidea is a legit OEM manufacturer and they did manufacturer the 1:1 Flask that 3Fvape is selling .. They are also supplying Comcig, Limwell, and several others..........

I will update my early thoughts and some photos when I receive the Flask, but it looks really fekkin good

Thanks for the update Nicole & really looking forward to your first impressions upon receipt!
 
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Is hitting temp protection a bad thing? I keep my rdna at 40 watts at all times. I want to hit my set temp as soon as possible, thus almost always hitting temp protection, the exception being some RDA of course.

Why should it hit it? Give that it is a smart algorithm it should know how to approach it and stay near it without overshooting. If you note the finer tooth line in the clone, it appears to have finer control. It is not a bad thing, but hitting it means the chip has overshot.
 

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So Phil has taken us into a clone factory in China. At the 11:45 mark, you can see a flask with the 1:1 usb port. Maybe the Sunlay / Waidea? At the 12:30 mark, you can see multiple flask casings, with the color options that are consistent with the Kangxin flask. My guess is that maybe all the flasks are coming from the same place.

 

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A few days Ago? Boy you really went away didn't you! Yours was due to be delivered the day you were leaving on the trip but the mailman came & went with no vape mail. Wasn't that like a month or more ago?

Glad to hear you finally got it and are pleased! Was it truly worth the wait since you had what must have been the longest wait out of all of us!?
hahaha. ya, I left feb 13 :) it was ordered jan 20. other than it taking forever to get here i'm pleased with it.
 

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Dimitri and Phil just lost points with me. Have they never been to a local fab shop? Have they ever been to a local independent garage? The conditions in that clone shop were far from appalling. They did get the "just trying to make a living" part right though, the Chinese manufacturers aren't some evil cabal run by crime bosses.

I don't even want to get into the whole blaming the US consumers for the clone market. They US consumers don't set out-of-reach prices for authentic mods, and the US consumers don't demand limited production runs of said mods. The US/EU mod business model needs to change if you want to stop cloning. You're not going to change basic consumer behavior of wanting something that's available, acceptable, and affordable.
 

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I too agree with your statement.... " I don't even want to get into the whole blaming the US consumers for the clone market". I rather take exception with Americans sending authentic products to China to be cloned. Americans should design their own product and send them to China, if they want, to be made. Praying on legitimate and successful Americans products and businesses to support cloning a cheaper product is just wrong...
 
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The Sunlay VF V3 with SS from 3f vape is garbage. Had mine for 2 days wont read res. correctly. Constantly reading too low ohms on 2 different sub tank ni 200 prebuilt coils at .03 when they read the correct .15 on my VS. After many previously consistent ni builds Failing on this I am def regretting the purchase. Sending back for refund.


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The Sunlay VF V3 with SS from 3f vape is garbage. Had mine for 2 days wont read res. correctly. Constantly reading too low ohms on 2 different sub tank ni 200 prebuilt coils at .03 when they read the correct .15 on my VS. After many previously consistent ni builds Failing on this I am def regretting the purchase. Sending back for refund.

Sorry to hear of your issues with the unit. Is there any more information you can give us on the chip? Delay from sleep times? Splash screen display? Stage1 Stage 2 sleep modes? General build quality of the mod itself? Finish ETC? Any way we could convince you to "pop the hood" & take a pic of the internals before you send it back?
 
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Finish and everything is spot on. The pin is not adjustable but I don't think it's the issue. The atty meets resistance well before it is flush with the mod. I kept trying to see a welcome screen but there doesn't seem to be one at all. It had gone back to regular mode from temp control a few times too. It is the chip. Not good at all. Don't want to take apart for fear of losin refund. So disappointed. Waited a long time for this and it horrible.


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