Vapors and Smokers

[Sad Society]

I have many friends who smoke analogs. They all know that I use an ecig and I have let my smoker friends try my ecig out. One of my friends has switched over to vaping and got his own kit, but my other friends still continue to smoke cigarettes after they have used/tried mine.

A couple months ago I finally got a mod. My sister-in-law who smokes saw how much vapor I was spewing out with my mod and she said 'Wow, my ecig never put out that much vapor.' She was smoking an analog at the time and I didn't even know that she had an ecig until she said that. She went outside just now to smoke and I'm in the house on the computer vaping away. And I can hear her coughing.

A couple of guys at my work who smoke were curious about ecigs so I let them try it. I even let them try my mod so they could get the best ecig experience. One guy liked it a lot and said he would get his own, and I gave him some websites to check out. A couple weeks later I asked him about it and he said he was going to stick to analogs.

Some smokers have told me that they don't like the taste of ecigs and I try to tell them there are lots of flavors but they say they would still rather smoke analogs. I just don't get it.

Do you have friends like this?

 

[DC2]

I think there are many people on this earth who won't get off their .... to do something until they have a motivation to do so. And some people just aren't motivated to stop smoking cigarettes until they get older and start worrying about their health. Maybe the money saving aspect might appeal to them.

 

[Kilroy]

Yeah, lots. Some aren't ready yet, some are scared and some never will change. Its their choice, no one else can make it for them.

 

[Scorched]

I have a couple friends like this, too. One of them says "I would rather just die a slow death, I don't want to live very long anyways" I find that statement very ignorant. Other friends are just very close-minded to the idea. "I just like smoking" Well, it's just the same as smoking, really but better in EVERY WAY.

My general conseus toward people who do not want to switch over are either very naive about the subject, or blantantly ignorant and stubborn if they are aware of all the benefits.

 

[pmd]

Having been a heavy smoker for 30+ years, I am happy with vaping.
That said, I would never look down upon smokers because they don't choose to vape. Vaping seems to work for me but that doesn't mean it's the greatest thing to come along. If I really wanted to give up an addictive habit I would have to quit nic altogether but I didn't, I just transferred to another one. I have no problem with smokers, or the smell or being around smoke. I remember quite well that I was one of them.
What bothers me is this vaping euphoria that just because you vape, you seem to have this holier than thou attitude.
There can be nothing worse for the vaping community than for some of you vapers that turn into anti smoking nazis that we all hated so much when we smoked.
If vaping works for you, fine. Don't look down on smokers and don't turn into a missionary.
Vaping takes work and can be a hassle. This is not every smokers 'thing'.
So lighten up on smokers, you were one. Respect their choice just as you want non smokers to respect your current choice.
Don't be an ... about it.

 

[Sad Society]

I don't look down on smokers at all. Sometimes I like smell that comes from them and it gets me thinking 'Wow I used to smell like that?'

I do not think I am better than a smoker for vaping, or anyone else for that matter. If a smoker is interested in switching to vaping then I am willing to tell them about it.

For me...my vaping hype has died down. I don't go around preaching vaping or try to show it off. My friends already know that I vape and they treat it as normal.

It's your body and you get to choose how to consume things....like nicotine. You can smoke it, chew it, or vape it....or wear a patch. Some ways may be heathier than others but whatever way you choose...that doesn't make you better than anyone else.

 

[Papagoatee]

They could have wanted to save some money and gotten some cheap e-cigs. Lousy cheapass e-cigs will spoil the entire experience for someone who wants to start vaping. Add in a bit of skepticism and you have a recipe for vaping failure.

 

[stormlover]

Having been a heavy smoker for 30+ years, I am happy with vaping.
That said, I would never look down upon smokers because they don't choose to vape. Vaping seems to work for me but that doesn't mean it's the greatest thing to come along. If I really wanted to give up an addictive habit I would have to quit nic altogether but I didn't, I just transferred to another one. I have no problem with smokers, or the smell or being around smoke. I remember quite well that I was one of them.
What bothers me is this vaping euphoria that just because you vape, you seem to have this holier than thou attitude.
There can be nothing worse for the vaping community than for some of you vapers that turn into anti smoking nazis that we all hated so much when we smoked.
If vaping works for you, fine. Don't look down on smokers and don't turn into a missionary.
Vaping takes work and can be a hassle. This is not every smokers 'thing'.
So lighten up on smokers, you were one. Respect their choice just as you want non smokers to respect your current choice.
Don't be an ... about it.

I'm going to have to agree with pmd. I vape but I still smoke analogs. I see vaping as a tool I use to get through the workday so I can stay at my desk and not interrupt what I'm doing to go outside to smoke. I don't vape after work or on the weekends (yet). However, the guy I work with who I turned on to vaping has quit his Pall Malls completely.

I can seriously see some vapers turning into the rabid anti-smokers that all smokers know and dislike. And there ain't nothing worse than a quitter who turns rabid.

The best way to look at it is that this is a journey for YOU and only YOU. Like religion, there's no one road that leads to Rome (if Rome is, indeed, their destination).

If you're having a hard time trying to understand why smokers continue to smoke when there's this nifty new way that YOU used to stop smoking, then the answer is to stop trying to understand why others continue to smoke. Stop trying to "save" them.

When the time is right and change is something that's desired by the person in question, then they will change. No amount of badgering, cajolling, or nagging is going to make that moment come sooner. The only thing that will change is that the person you're trying to change will change all right - they'll stop wanting to be around you.

 

[Seabrook]

When I was a youngster, I thought I was indestructible. If your avatar is your current picture, I would say that your friends may not be wise enough yet to fully realize the road ahead of them. They may have not started wheezing yet or coughing much or lost their sense of smell and taste yet.

Since they may not see any health issues yet, let's see if they come knocking on your door wanting more info when cigarettes go up to 9 bucks a pack. My Benson & Hedges with tax were over $6 a pack here on the Pacific Coast, and I know they're more expensive in eastern US. Give them a little time. Make no comments at all to them, just wait. You might be surprised.

 

[Raven_Blackblade]

My husband is like this. He has tried my PV dozens of times. Says he doesnt like it because it doesnt drag like a cigarette.

I hope that if we move to Washington State that his mom will see me using this and maybe push him towards it.

 

[CaptJay]

I don't get any 'looking down on smokers' from this thread at all - maybe its jsut sunny ole me I got 'some people dont seem to want to TRY it - and I dont understand it'
Not 'they are fools for not trying it'
We are all smokers (like being an alcoholic I dont think its ever something you truely give up) and I just choose not to smoke right now. I like this better. If someone else doesn't thats fine. I smoked cos I liked it - but I didnt like ciggies. Or rather, Id come to hate them they tasted like poo except for about 5 which i really enjoyed. I know new vapers get a bit preachy at times but thats cos they are excited, most never thought they'd be free of smokes ever. Some had tried to give up multiple times and failed. I never tried to give up btw - apart from 3 days once - patches made me anxious and gum made me want to smoke.
I finally decided to try PV cos my interest was piqued by a barrage of adverts on TV on hols in Las Vegas. I'd never seen one before and it looked interesting, and maybe a way to cut down (NOT give up!!). Also Id just started getting a cough and cutting down to get rid of it was definitely something that was motivating me.
I would never look down on a smoker because we all KNOW what its like to feel marginalised and 'hated' while secretly funding the coffers of Uncle Sam, that was me, and you, and I'll never forget that.

/end soapbox

 

[tribalmasters]

I was outside with my sister, her cigarette burning away and me vaping on my most beautiful electric blue penstyle when I asked her "maybe you would like to try my e-cigarette" she said "no thanks" why not? She never did give me a straight answer so I went on that its available in pink, you can make your own juice, its just glycerine, some nic and Loranns! Needless to say, I don't think she will be trying the electronic cigarette any time soon hehe!! I don't think she has ever tried to give up even using NRT! Ohh well it was worth a try her being my family and all! My other sister on the other hand gave up just using Big Pharma patches long before the electronic cigarette was heard of As for my brother, he likes his naughty weed too muchs so I don't even bother hehehe!

So only 2 of my family still smoke, strangely it is the 2 that now have kids!!!!!!!!

 

[wenchy69]

Having been a heavy smoker for 30+ years, I am happy with vaping.
That said, I would never look down upon smokers because they don't choose to vape. Vaping seems to work for me but that doesn't mean it's the greatest thing to come along. If I really wanted to give up an addictive habit I would have to quit nic altogether but I didn't, I just transferred to another one. I have no problem with smokers, or the smell or being around smoke. I remember quite well that I was one of them.
What bothers me is this vaping euphoria that just because you vape, you seem to have this holier than thou attitude.
There can be nothing worse for the vaping community than for some of you vapers that turn into anti smoking nazis that we all hated so much when we smoked.
If vaping works for you, fine. Don't look down on smokers and don't turn into a missionary.
Vaping takes work and can be a hassle. This is not every smokers 'thing'.
So lighten up on smokers, you were one. Respect their choice just as you want non smokers to respect your current choice.
Don't be an ... about it.

could not have put it better myself! we were all smokers ourselves once..... aside from the few idiots ( and i don't use that term lightly) who were NOT smokers, yet decided to take up vaping in order to try and lose weight or for various other silly reasons.

 

[Sad Society]

When I was a youngster, I thought I was indestructible. If your avatar is your current picture, I would say that your friends may not be wise enough yet to fully realize the road ahead of them. They may have not started wheezing yet or coughing much or lost their sense of smell and taste yet.

Yes that is my current Avatar taken earlier this year. Looks can be deceiving. I am 30 yrs old in my Avatar and I'm going on 31 this year. Most all of my friends are older or about the same age.

 

[Sad Society]

I don't get any 'looking down on smokers' from this thread at all - maybe its jsut sunny ole me I got 'some people dont seem to want to TRY it - and I dont understand it'
Not 'they are fools for not trying it'

You are correct on the subject CaptJay. I don't understand why they don't experiment more and try it more. They have all tried it but only taking a few puffs and then saying that "It's not for me." That doesn't seem to make much sense.

I can understand that you may have the urge to smoke an analog after trying a few puffs on an ecig but.... keep using the ecig and see what happens.

 

[Israfil]

Had a friend that was driving with me and decided he'd give the ecig a shot. He had a coughing fit and so did I, but I was coughing because my 1.5pack a day friend had just started hacking up a lung and I laughed WAYYY too hard....for the next 5 minutes.

Somehow I get the feeling he won't be trying em again any time soon, although if I buy mountain dew flavor or something I bet I can talk him into it....

 

[VaporPhreak]

The best way to look at it is that this is a journey for YOU and only YOU. Like religion, there's no one road that leads to Rome (if Rome is, indeed, their destination).

Took the words right outta my mouth Stormlover! I completely agree!

I vape pretty much everywhere I go, unless asked not to when I approach the proprietor or manager of any establishment I enter. I do in an effort to increase awareness of the ecig. I do not force it down anyone and I do not ask smokers to convert. I will gladly let others try it out if they ask, or explain it if they ask. Otherwise, I live and let live.

 

[mvc]

Another story here...
Cannot make my wife stop the analogs - she was excited in the beginning, used it for some time but always together with the analogs. Always after a few days went back completely to them and dropped the PV. I got a M401 and she liked it a lot and said with this I can do it, got one set for her - same thing - a few days later only analogs...
Tried all kind of methods - no way to convince her to move 100% to vaping...
so now I am continuing my journey and hoping at one point she will join too, trying not to push too much.
The problem is that the cost here is not a concern at all - a pack of MB is like $1.8 so cannot use that motivation, any others simply don't stick.
Anyone has a working advice I can use, will appreciate it.

 

[Israfil]

@MVC

The method I used to quit was to start slowly substituting vaping for smoking. I'd have a full pack in a day, then cut down to about 2 analogs a day over the course of a week. Eventually I wasn't smoking analogs at all. I hope this helps. There is also the possibility that you could get her addicted to modding ecigs...its fun!

 

[JohnnyVapor]

I figure that we can share our knowledge about e-cigarettes, but if that person doesn't feel that it's right for them, no harm done. Well, harm for them, but it is in the end their choice. I am always willing to share my opinions about vaping with my friends or strangers, but I never try to convert them to my views. If they choose to try an e-cigarette, I'll gladly lend my support.

Maybe it's because I haven't completely given up burning tobacco that I hold this opinion. I gave up cigarettes a long time ago, but sometimes I'll still enjoy a cigar or pipe - something that I don't feel an e-cigarette can ever replace.