VaporShark rDNA

[peraspera]

...I didn't bother to check out your links, but it's been verified time and time again that rayon is 100% cellulose, albeit one that is chemically extracted and purified

It's not a prudent move to simply Google and start going off on it. Based on what you've said, it seems like we aren't even talking about the same fiber

We are definitely posting about different things.

You are posting links about rayon as a generic fabric. This only describe a fabric made by a particular method of processing cellulose fiber into said fabric. I am posting about the patent information for the specific type of rayon, cellucotton, that people are purchasing for wicking.

Everyone is certainly free to use their own judgment as whether they give Jeremy or patent information more credibility.

 

[flavorpursuit]

Not saying one way or the other but this did come up on a "rayon toxicity" search.

Rayon is a fiber produced from recycled wood pulp or bamboo cellulose processed by a combination of many chemicals involving carbon disulphide, sulfuric acid, ammonia, acetone and caustic soda to bear regular washing and constant wearing. The carbon disulphide emitted from Rayon fabric can cause nausea, headache, vomiting, chest and muscle pain and insomnia as well as the toxins released from Rayon can also occasion tissue necrosis, anorexia and Parkinson’s disease for people who regularly wear clothing made of it. It is evident that Rayon is a hazardous fabric for people, but its chemicals disposed in the factory effluents can also affect the Eco-system by polluting the water, decreasing the plant’s growth and shortening animals’ life.

This sounds kind of scary, but as has been stated earlier this is more of a generic statement about "rayons" not the specific rayon people are using for vaping. I would suggest you guys go to the rayon forum where I am sure this must have been discussed in depth if you're curious about safety. I know I would before switching to it.

 

[JoppaRoadCruiser]

I was following the original rayon thread started by Jeremy R, and from my understanding the product that people are vaping is a different animal than the actual rayon fabric that clothes are made of. As for the "toxic chemicals" that are used in the extraction process, from what I understand, they have such a short half-life that they aren't present in the final product. Again I could be wrong and I haven't researched this like some of the folks in the rayon thread. Just going by some of the stuff I made mental notes of when reading through Jeremy's thread. I'll never forget the first time I stumbled upon the thread I was thinking, "Is this guy crazy...he's vaping plastic". Doesn't seem to be the case though.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Holy thread drift Batman!

Has anyone else gotten shipping notifications this week?

 

[Woofer]

We are definitely posting about different things.

You are posting links about rayon as a generic fabric. This only describe a fabric made by a particular method of processing cellulose fiber into said fabric. I am posting about the patent information for the specific type of rayon, cellucotton, that people are purchasing for wicking.

Everyone is certainly free to use their own judgment as whether they give Jeremy or patent information more credibility.

This patent is for a specific fabric, we are not using a composite fabric that may contain some rayon, we are using 100% rayon fiber. Cellucotton is unfortunately a somewhat generic term. Graham's Cellucotton is a 'brand name" and both 100% cotton and 100% rayon are sold by Graham's as cellucotton. Graham's cellucotton rayon is cellulose fiber. We don't wick with fabric. Graham's is not the only company using the name cellucotton and the term cellucotton has no specific meaning in common use at least.

Jeremy has done his research well, regardless I have yet to see one shred of evidence (and I looked) that rayon used as wicking poses any danger. This patent you posted is for something entirely different.

 

[Ardy]

"Has anyone else gotten shipping notifications this week? "


Nope and I ordered @ 12:15 A.M on the 1st

 

[cjpeltz]

Where do I get this rayon you speak of?

I got mine on eBay - $5 for 25 feet, free shipping. Comes in a sandwich bag. I have found it much easier to work with in terms of ripping pieces off to twist vs cutting strips with the KGD.

The URL for the one I get -

25ft 100 Rayon Cellucotton Best Wicking Flavor Wick Vapes | eBay

If you do buy from eBay, make sure to zoom into the box to confirm it says Rayon. Cellucotton also comes in 100% cotton variation.

 

[flavorpursuit]

Holy thread drift Batman!

Has anyone else gotten shipping notifications this week?

Yes - I got mine on Monday. Said it will ship to my place by Friday... with only this activity listed:
December 16, 2014 14:46:00 MIAMI, FL 33155 PICKED UP BY REQUEST
December 16, 2014 08:06:00 33155 Electronic Notification

Free shipping option? Ughhhhh. I have no idea if it's made any progress to me yet.

 

[arken21]

Yes - I got mine on Monday. Said it will ship to my place by Friday... with only this activity listed:
December 16, 2014 14:46:00 MIAMI, FL 33155 PICKED UP BY REQUEST
December 16, 2014 08:06:00 33155 Electronic Notification

Free shipping option? Ughhhhh. I have no idea if it's made any progress to me yet.

did you get the update version ?

 

[flavorpursuit]

No, I ordered mine on 11/25, which means it is probably NOT the one with the bigger screen. I did not get an email telling me it would be, although I hear the one shipping now have the "zip chaging" feature which is nice

 

[Jonner]

Yes - I got mine on Monday. Said it will ship to my place by Friday... with only this activity listed:
December 16, 2014 14:46:00 MIAMI, FL 33155 PICKED UP BY REQUEST
December 16, 2014 08:06:00 33155 Electronic Notification

Free shipping option? Ughhhhh. I have no idea if it's made any progress to me yet.

CyberMonday? If so, that is awesome, even earlier than their 15 business day shipping date, which would be December 22nd.

 

[Jonner]

Still not bad, a week or so behind it looks like.

 

[flavorpursuit]

No, ordered on 11/25. Is it typical for these things to provide NO updates on shipping progress? I'm going to be pretty unhappy if I find out there's a Miami postal worker puffing on my VS

 

[TheKiwi]

Lol shrug. I have no interest in debating on rayon in this thread. I've been on the rayon thread since the start, and have seen enough literature, MSDS sheets etc from independent source as well as Graham. That is sufficient for me.


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[alicewonderland]

i duno, never tried celluccoton. still working on my lifestime supply of japanese cotton

ending up picking up 200 squares of japanese cotton for only 7.39$ as an add-on cheapie.

http://www.amazon.com/Cotton-Labo-O...1&keywords=japanese+cotton&pebp=1419024462032

 

[Hammerfyst]

Possible bad form to reply to my own post but I ran into an issue. Built a .26 NI200 coil on 28 guage and all was good for a bit. 420f and all was good. I started to notice the vapor would get warmer then normal and when I checked, it had switched itself into Voltage mode. Only way to get Temperature back was to pop the battery and reset it. It would hold on Temp for a bit and then right back to Volts. I took it in to Mountain Oaks Vapor in Oviedo (GREAT bunch of guys there) and they swapped it out agreeing it was an issue. Got the new one and it did it almost immediately! They went ahead and pulled them all from the case and refunded my money, so now I am without a temp mod.
I guess I will wait to get one when the bugs are worked out....

 

[Ardy]

A .26 build seems a little high considering most are building in .12-.18 range. Not sure how high you can build before the TP starts having issues.

 

[Woofer]

Possible bad form to reply to my own post but I ran into an issue. Built a .26 NI200 coil on 28 guage and all was good for a bit. 420f and all was good. I started to notice the vapor would get warmer then normal and when I checked, it had switched itself into Voltage mode. Only way to get Temperature back was to pop the battery and reset it. It would hold on Temp for a bit and then right back to Volts. I took it in to Mountain Oaks Vapor in Oviedo (GREAT bunch of guys there) and they swapped it out agreeing it was an issue. Got the new one and it did it almost immediately! They went ahead and pulled them all from the case and refunded my money, so now I am without a temp mod.
I guess I will wait to get one when the bugs are worked out....

You didn't mention what mod you speak of. (I believe some Hanas had a ground issue)
I would be very surprised if anything was wrong with the mods, this screams bad connections. The DNA 40 absolutely requires electrically solid connections with stable resistance to work correctly in Ni/TL mode. Many of have attys that needed tightening up to work properly. Also avoid contact coils if you want a happy life.

 

[puffon]

No, ordered on 11/25. Is it typical for these things to provide NO updates on shipping progress? I'm going to be pretty unhappy if I find out there's a Miami postal worker puffing on my VS

Just typical USPS.
I'm waiting for a pkg. from Coppell TX. No scan of it leaving TX, but suddenly showed up in Jacksonville FL, after a week in TX.

 

[Hammerfyst]

Hrmm...It was a contact coil but it was a very good strong connection. I was building on a Lemo and I had it centered in the holes. And I was thinking the same thing so I went it and made sure everything was tight. Well hell. I knew I should have came here first....
Oh, and it was the Vaporshark rDNA40.

You didn't mention what mod you speak of. (I believe some Hanas had a ground issue)
I would be very surprised if anything was wrong with the mods, this screams bad connections. The DNA 40 absolutely requires electrically solid connections with stable resistance to work correctly in Ni/TL mode. Many of have attys that needed tightening up to work properly. Also avoid contact coils if you want a happy life.