VaporShark rDNA

[GunMonkeyINTL]

It's the little raised lip around the screen that kills me with the VS.
I rarely tipped it over before unless wine was involved... guess I need to be more careful.

I didn't think about the raised screen. I never actually used mine outside of the skin, but I bet that does make it significantly more tip-prone.
Maybe you should consider a skin. With the hard plastic screen protector I put in mine, the skin is the raised portion, so it sits on the outside perimeter meaning it is as stable as if it were flat-bottomed.

...Magma.. hmm.. thats the rda Ive been thinking about grabbing. ... but, Im just not all that inclined to drip out and about.. maybe tomorrow Ill go thjat route anyway, and see...

With the well filled with wick, I think I'm getting somewhere around 1/2-3/4 ml on a fill in the Magma clone. At 1.8 ohm and 18 watts that's gotta be at least 20 puffs or more. I've got a few of Vapor Chef's 6ml drip bottles that I reused for dripping. I've gone all day at work today with nothing but the rDNA, the Magma clone, and a tiny bottle of Unicorn Poop, refilling the dripper every few hours. It's taken up less space in my pocket than a pack of cigarettes and lighter. Throw a spare mod (2nd VS?) and another 6ml bottle in my pack as back up, and I may have found my ADV setup.

 

[lasttango]

For flavor I'm absolutely in love with the Cyclone by Vicious Ant.

Jake! my friend... please please share your builds on your VA Cyclone/cyclops... pm me... or post here...

I love this little thing too... but I feel like I am not getting the flavor out of it that I could...

Here's what I have tried:
26 and 28 G Kanthal 8-12 wraps...
Sterilized Cotton - not too much...

how do you build yours...

Great topic for a vaporshark DNA thread as it is the ideal size for the DNA... though I have used it on my RDNA as well.

So far, I am liking my Crown and trident on it best...

My atomics don't work well on the rdna though.. they wobble due to the airflow channels I believe.

 

[Mr.Mann]

VS rDNA has been shipped!

 

[jakematic]

how do you build yours...

On the Cylcone I've been using 7/8 wraps of 28 ga and coming in right at 1 ohm - same as I do on the Russian.
Anything more and it takes too long to heat up from what I've seen.

All my coils get wicked with rayon/cellulose.
The tails are critical in my opinion, and I wrap one around the backside of the posts.

Went to take a picture of the one on my RSM Cruiser but it's gunked up pretty bad - I run a 60/40 mix of Boba's and Gambit.

It's essentially like this one that Rossum did:

He's using 26 ga and I just got some in to try this weekend.
The bigger coil with the same ohms should produce even more flavor.
Will ask him to chime in with the details since I can't find the original thread.

The rayon makes a world of difference in flavor IMHO.
Running the BF Cyclone is wayyyyyyy beyond what I get from my R91s or anything else, but have yet to fire up the TF.
I agree it would be perfect on the rNDA

I should add that the draw was way too tight for me so I drilled mine out to 1/16"

 

[jakematic]

VS rDNA has been shipped!

Mine too !

 

[j3suss]

Friends! I have a silly question ... why the color GunMetal is the best selling?
As I have seen in all the pictures (instagram, twitter...) I see in stores online and expires before the color Gunmetal. I could not buy my rDNA yet because I'm waiting for a store to have stock ... =)

 

[GunMonkeyINTL]

Black sold out first on the first official, non-beta batch, for what it's worth.
That's what mine came from and gunmetal wa the only option for the last couple days of that batch, meaning that the black was selling better at the time.

Brother, you're worrying about the color too much. The skins come in a bunch of colors, are much more visible than the mod chassis, and are cheap. Buy a couple and switch back and forth if it matters to you. If they don't offer the color you like, buy some spray paint.
It really can be that simple if you let it.

It's a well made device at a fair price, so let color be a secondary concern and get one.

 

[lasttango]

I have gunmetal and black... they are both cool... I do prefer the gunmetal because it gets less fingerprints on it - the black is a fingerprint magnet. ...and as mentioned above, the skins brother, the skins ;-)

Okay - thanks Jake... I need to try Rayon then.
I have a 28 wrapped 8 times coming in at 1.1 now... pushing it at 16.4 watts... it's pretty good... but it's touchy... I think Rayon would help with leaking and flavor...

 

[Nautilusfan]

VS rDNA has been shipped!

Mine too

 

[jakematic]

it's pretty good... but it's touchy... I think Rayon would help with leaking and flavor...

Mine don't leak a drop unless I way over squonk or over drip
I usually run between 13 - 15 watts and man is it ever a smooth tasty vape.

Ignore all the 'suggestions' about amounts of rayon and trimming and just do what you would with cotton.

I've got to ship some mod feet to another member here tomorrow and can send you a ziptop bag with some rayon if you'd like.

 

[lasttango]

I've got to ship some mod feet to another member here tomorrow and can send you a ziptop bag with some rayon if you'd like.

Thanks, mighty awesome of you ~ but I just bought a bunch ;-)

 

[Rossum]

It's essentially like this one that Rossum did:

He's using 26 ga and I just got some in to try this weekend.
The bigger coil with the same ohms should produce even more flavor.
Will ask him to chime in with the details since I can't find the original thread.

I should hardly be regarded as an expert on Cyclone builds, I can just tell you what works for me -- i.e. what I like. This varies a bit with the type of juice and whether the Cyclone is on a mech mod or a DNA. The above picture is on a bottom-feeding mech mod. I also run a bottom-feeding DNA-30.

Anyway, I tend to use a 5/64" (1.98mm) drill bit as the mandrel for my coils, and on a mech, I generally prefer 26 gauge. The pictured coil was about 0.8 ohms. On the DNA I like closer to 1.0 ohms. That tends to be a little slow with 26 gauge and sane single-coil power levels, and I tend to prefer 28 gauge in that application. However, what I've currently got in the Cyclone on my DNA feeder is two strands of 30 gauge twisted together and I'm liking that pretty well too. In principle, that should be the same as 27 gauge, but it isn't quite. This coil is right around 1.0 ohms too:

Remember, with a DNA you don't need to go crazy low ohms to get power.

Anyway, much depends on your style of vaping. I run a relatively tight draw; my Cyclones' air holes are reamed out some, but I can't pass a 1/16" drill bit through any of 'em, and I don't do lung hits. A while back I bought a TF AFC Cyclone in the classies just to be able to try the AFC cap. I was wondering whether I should try an airier draw. It convinced me that for me, there was little to be gained. In fact, I don't much care for the AFC cap, even with the draw set as tightly as a regular cap. The problem with it is that in order to keep the look and shape the same, they made it taller, which greatly increases chamber volume and that produces a totally different vape; less flavor, and it just isn't my" vape.

 

[j3suss]

Black sold out first on the first official, non-beta batch, for what it's worth.
That's what mine came from and gunmetal wa the only option for the last couple days of that batch, meaning that the black was selling better at the time.

Brother, you're worrying about the color too much. The skins come in a bunch of colors, are much more visible than the mod chassis, and are cheap. Buy a couple and switch back and forth if it matters to you. If they don't offer the color you like, buy some spray paint.
It really can be that simple if you let it.

It's a well made device at a fair price, so let color be a secondary concern and get one.

I have gunmetal and black... they are both cool... I do prefer the gunmetal because it gets less fingerprints on it - the black is a fingerprint magnet. ...and as mentioned above, the skins brother, the skins ;-)

Okay - thanks Jake... I need to try Rayon then.
I have a 28 wrapped 8 times coming in at 1.1 now... pushing it at 16.4 watts... it's pretty good... but it's touchy... I think Rayon would help with leaking and flavor...

Thank you!!
Yes! I am worried. I am going to pay much money and I don´t want that I do not want the paint to fall, and they do not know which one to choose ...
I like gunmetal because it is good set with atty, but black is also nice and I'm very indecisive!
I guess either one is good, but as I spend a lot of money and I think a lot!
I can not paint because paint does not understand, but thank you very much for your comments, I will keep thinking about it jejej

Thank you !!

 

[XBarbarian]

With the well filled with wick, I think I'm getting somewhere around 1/2-3/4 ml on a fill in the Magma clone. At 1.8 ohm and 18 watts that's gotta be at least 20 puffs or more. I've got a few of Vapor Chef's 6ml drip bottles that I reused for dripping. I've gone all day at work today with nothing but the rDNA, the Magma clone, and a tiny bottle of Unicorn Poop, refilling the dripper every few hours. It's taken up less space in my pocket than a pack of cigarettes and lighter. Throw a spare mod (2nd VS?) and another 6ml bottle in my pack as back up, and I may have found my ADV setup.

thanks for all your info sharing man!
so.. decided to find a Magma... ( although jakematic makes a compelling case for a cyclone! ) with this build you speak to.. 1.8 ohm, 18 watts.. Im assuming your using the magma with a single coil then? or dual? waht gauge? 28 or 26? I have both.. if you are single.. did you find dual too hot.. or more interested in power conservation?

 

[XBarbarian]

rossum... what mod are you using thats DNA 30 & BF?

I like that Idea.. I have a REO grand now, and the rDNA.. combining both would be uber! your right, with the control of a dna / sx chip.. the need for low ohms to create power is gone...

 

[jakematic]

rossum... what mod are you using thats DNA 30 & BF?

Let's just say I'm waiting with bated breath for my Shapeways order
Tons of info in that thread, and the Beta Team is working on a co-op for the parts.

It's the best of both worlds IMHO.

Here's some samples:

It does dress up an otherwise basic black mod pretty nicely, doesn't it? Wait until I get the firing button in there too.

Unfortunately those brass parts are rather pricey.

 

[Rossum]

rossum... what mod are you using thats DNA 30 & BF?

See Jake's answer above.

I like that Idea.. I have a REO grand now, and the rDNA.. combining both would be uber!

I liked the idea too. I had multiple DNA mods, starting with an original Vaporshark DNA 20 that I got right after Christmas and loved them. REOs never really appealed to me, but I was drawn to bottom-feeders by pdib's incredibly elegant and beautiful wood mechanical mods. So when gdeal designed that printed DNA BF, I knew I had to build one (or more).

Red Sky Mods also makes a wood DNA BF. He's working on a batch of them now.

 

[jakematic]

Red Sky Mods also makes a wood DNA BF. He's working on a batch of them now.

Shhhhhh !!
I'm trying to snag one in this batch

 

[GunMonkeyINTL]

so.. decided to find a Magma... ( although jakematic makes a compelling case for a cyclone! ) with this build you speak to.. 1.8 ohm, 18 watts.. Im assuming your using the magma with a single coil then? or dual? waht gauge? 28 or 26? I have both.. if you are single.. did you find dual too hot.. or more interested in power conservation?

I haven't tried it in single-coil. The air flow ring has three set of holes so that you can have both air inlets open, or have only one open while blocking the other, but I figured I'd still run into problems with leaks and condensation running down the unused air inlet and leaking out the ring.
My build is 2 coils of 11 wraps of 30ga around a #48 drill. My previous RBA dual coils were 12 wraps around a 1/16" bit. I wanted higher resistance, but didn't want to get to 14 or 15 wraps, so I did the math and selected a bigger drill.

 

[XBarbarian]

Rossum and jakematic... oooh lala~~

and thank you gunmonkeyintl for that response..