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Variable Voltage and Patent
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Before i begin let me say this is not meant to be confrontational.
According to your statement if I have never even looked at one of your products, did my own research on parts and design and developed an ecig that was variable voltage, but did not use any microchip or regulator you use, then I would have effectively worked around the patent?
Both ! no contradiction there .
I see you have a Provape ?? hows it working out ? nice device IMO really no BS .
I see you have a Provape ?? hows it working out ? nice device IMO really no BS .
No, to patent something you have to do a search for previous patents and this would show up so the lawyer you used ( If you do not use a patent lawyer it is not good ! ) would tell you to not attempt it , it would be a waste of $$
If NotCigs didn't take this opportunity to file for a patent than someone or another corporation will, such as the big tobacco companies. There will always be a protection and/or government intervention when it comes to intellectual property and I rather have someone from this community (E-cigarette Forums) take hold of the patent issue. There is another person who filed for a patent, a "BIG" bottom-feeder modder with a successful product (can't name who since I don't have his consent) and I believe that is the right step.
No problem ! I think the Provari is a well designed PV and I heard they have great CS as well !
Uhmm.. What is everyone getting worked up about? It is only a design patent. I did some preliminary research many years ago for an idea I had, but found out I could
only apply for a design patent because the main idea of the product was not original or unique. I did not "invent" something I only took existing concepts and configured
them in a unique way. Buzz did not invent a VV device, he took existing parts and "designed" a product. I talked with a patent consultant and he told me that design
patents are not that effective because somebody can use all the same parts and achieve all the same functions as your device, but if they use a different configuration
or design, they pretty much bypass your patent.
That being said, it is a good idea to have a design patent on record to keep someone from outright copying your product.
However, that doesn't seem to stop the Chinese does it.
only apply for a design patent because the main idea of the product was not original or unique. I did not "invent" something I only took existing concepts and configured
them in a unique way. Buzz did not invent a VV device, he took existing parts and "designed" a product. I talked with a patent consultant and he told me that design
patents are not that effective because somebody can use all the same parts and achieve all the same functions as your device, but if they use a different configuration
or design, they pretty much bypass your patent.
That being said, it is a good idea to have a design patent on record to keep someone from outright copying your product.
However, that doesn't seem to stop the Chinese does it.
People and companies will be starting to stake their claims on their designs and they SHOULD IMO , The copies have been rampant in this industry ( Yes it is an industry ) I have worked for 17 yrs in the fiber optics feild and have 8 patents that keep us in the market , If I did not have these patents I could not protect my unique designs that makes us on of 2 Fiber Optic Polisher MFG in the USA that are LEFT !! ( there were 13 + in 2000 , the DOt com bubble killed most of them )
I appreciate your statement regarding a E-cig user from this community , I DO CARE about my customers and all E-cig users , I quit using them and understand the change it has made in my life and how it affects others , I really want to keep this industry in the Small Co. arena vs. Big Tobacco running it , One way a small company can do this is by a PATENT !!
Uhmm.. What is everyone getting worked up about? It is only a design patent. I did some preliminary research many years ago for an idea I had, but found out I could
only apply for a design patent because the main idea of the product was not original or unique. I did not "invent" something I only took existing concepts and configured
them in a unique way. Buzz did not invent a VV device, he took existing parts and "designed" a product. I talked with a patent consultant and he told me that design
patents are not that effective because somebody can use all the same parts and achieve all the same functions as your device, but if they use a different configuration
or design, they pretty much bypass your patent.
That being said, it is a good idea to have a design patent on record to keep someone from outright copying your product.
However, that doesn't seem to stop the Chinese does it.
This is a " Utility Patent " not a design patent ( FYI a design patent patents the LOOK of a product )
The specific forum software is licensed... but does the developer of the forum software have to pay a royalty to someone who holds a patent on the entire concept of an internet forum? I don't know... I never really thought much about it.
Looking at it another way, should every e-cig maker have to pay a royalty to the company that holds the patent on the original of idea of heating nicotine-laced liquid?
TNT, that would be Herbert A. Gilbert
New Invention of 1963: The Smokeless Non-Tobacco Cigarette | The Electronic Cigarette & E-Cigarettes by Instead
New Invention of 1963: The Smokeless Non-Tobacco Cigarette | The Electronic Cigarette & E-Cigarettes by Instead
A Utility Patent Hummm ? let me find a good description
Definition: Most patents fall into the utility patent category. Utility patents are subdivided into mechanical, electrical and chemical categories.
In general, a utility patent protects the way an invention is used and works. Utility patents may be granted to anyone who invents a new and useful method, process, machine, device, manufactured item, or chemical compound - or any new and useful improvement to the same.
Utility literally means has purpose or useful function
Well if your patent goes through and I can't get a VV from anyone else, can you please atleast release your PVs on schedule
it happened like this.
Back on the first half of 2009 a few people discussed the concept of variable voltage using a regulator and a pot.
Nuck comes out with the FISTPACK that is a variable with set voltages and uses a sliding switches.
Buzzkill/Notcigs introduces THE BUZZ and apply for a patent.
Now the V fever starts and everybody comes out with PV's using a regulator and pot.
PROVARI comes out! end of story!!!
Back on the first half of 2009 a few people discussed the concept of variable voltage using a regulator and a pot.
Nuck comes out with the FISTPACK that is a variable with set voltages and uses a sliding switches.
Buzzkill/Notcigs introduces THE BUZZ and apply for a patent.
Now the V fever starts and everybody comes out with PV's using a regulator and pot.
PROVARI comes out! end of story!!!
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