VIR official

[monkkx]

I'm not sure Proteus will be the first mod (it's not a vaporizer) offering temperature control. Via a different route the dna 40 offers temperature control within 5 degrees accuracy too. One uses Ti and SS wire only, the other Nickel wire. And the DNA40 is shipped out to mod-makers as we speak.

I might have misunderstood the DNA40 concept, but I thought it was more a VW with a setting for the maximum temperature you allow. Whereas VIR is purely a variable temperature. If I'm correct, with DNA40, you could set a max temperature that would never be reached by your coil (therefore it would not a pure temperature controled device, but more of a temperature "aware" device).
Anyway, it's not a major difference, and sadly it sounds like there's gonna be some patent war, I hope we consumers won't be impacted ...

 

[imeothanasis]

2 months Lo zio, at 180 euros buddy

Well, this VIR looks pretty exciting, indeed.
I'm sorry if maybe the question has been already posed: time to market (with Proteus) and approximate price?

 

[Lo zio]

2 months Lo zio, at 180 euros buddy

Thanks!
If I remember well, then, the price for Proteus has remained the same as announced some time ago - nice move!

Usually I don't like to buy new technology at launch, I prefer to leave the burden of testing to others, but I'll definitely make an exception this time, VIR seems convincing and I'm in desperate need for a small device for my pennys - carrying bigger mods around in some circumstances makes for more than one raised eyebrow...

Feed us with some videos, Imeo!

 

[dilznic]

dna 40 unfortunately is based on VIR that is patented fog.

Can you please provide more details? Patent number, country of parent office that granted the patent and link?

 

[glauserjg]

Both partners did a great job. I doubt evolv had any idea what imeo was working on and I know imeo had no idea what evolv wqs doing

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[RandomFellow]

Can you please provide more details? Patent number, country of parent office that granted the patent and link?

Watch video, then see post no. 31.

 

[FogNL]

I might have misunderstood the DNA40 concept, but I thought it was more a VW with a setting for the maximum temperature you allow. Whereas VIR is purely a variable temperature. If I'm correct, with DNA40, you could set a max temperature that would never be reached by your coil (therefore it would not a pure temperature controled device, but more of a temperature "aware" device).

I think you're right Monkkx. We don't know all the details yet but it looks like both designs aim for the same result via different routes. Interesting times ahead of us.

I hope Imeo reconsiders the decision to make VIR temperature only. I would really like the possibility to choose between temperature controlled and setups with Kanthal or NiChrome we use today. And also the possibility to use micro coils we use today with the wires touching. But maybe that's just me...

I might have missed it but how would VIR work with NR-R-NR atty's? Is this just a matter of using a Ti or SS wire instead?

 

[RandomFellow]

By the way, I decided to give it a go and make "loose" coils on my dripper. No dry firing and no torching. Used TemCo A1 Kanthal, 26 AWG, .54 Ohms, as I don't have any Titanium wire yet. It was kinda different, but still worked great. One thing I noticed was that at first, I wasn't getting much vapor. But, once the wires started to warm up and break in, the vapor and flavor were really great. It's odd that we associate micro coils with vapor and flavor, and I think that is a misconception. See, micro coils came out hand in hand with cotton wicks, and the performance was really coming from the wicking of cotton. Micro coils tend to heat up faster due to caloric transference, but that's also a bad thing, as the temperature of the micro coil feeds off of itself and is probably getting into unsafe to temperatures. Anyways, give it a try: you may just like it!

 

[Sale Gosse]

I'm agree with you Random,
I only made coils and since i made then with Titanium i think that they heat up as quickly as Kanthal micro coils...

 

[Lo zio]

I might have missed it but how would VIR work with NR-R-NR atty's? Is this just a matter of using a Ti or SS wire instead?

This I forgot to ask, too.
Would be interesting to know, since it would be nice to use Penelope V1 and V2 on Proteus.

 

[clavit]

This I forgot to ask, too.
Would be interesting to know, since it would be nice to use Penelope V1 and V2 on Proteus.

Yup, especially for those of who have unused Penelope V1's lying around, which were bought years ago in anticipation of the upcoming Proteus that was just around the corner

 

[dilznic]

Watch video, then see post no. 31.

So has the patent actually been granted? And is this a patent only enforceable in Greece? When was it filed? What are the claims? Would be cool if GG could post more info.

Not digging the hyperbole and mystery.

 

[RandomFellow]

So has the patent actually been granted? And is this a patent only enforceable in Greece? When was it filed? What are the claims? Would be cool if GG could post more info.

Not digging the hyperbole and mystery.

As long as it's an international patent, it doesn't matter where it's filed, as long as its a member state of the Patent Cooperation Treaty. BTW, both Greece and the U.S. are member states. Also, China is as well, but there courts don't seemed to be too concerned about enforcing things like international treaties and laws. Why anyone in the world does business with China is beyond me.

 

[Rossum]

As long as it's an international patent

A PCT application does not itself result in the grant of a patent, since there is no such thing as an "international patent", and the grant of patent is a prerogative of each national or regional authority.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_Cooperation_Treaty

Why anyone in the world does business with China is beyond me.

Yep!

 

[Ariel_MX]

The VIR is patented pending with the 20140100215 patent number.

OBI: Industrial Property Organisation (οργανισμος βιομηχανικης ιδιοκτησιας).
http://www.obi.gr/obi/Default.aspx?tabid=71&

(Not published yet)

 

[Fishtec]

And here I was thinking Imeo was just going to go for a static regulated voltage gg device mind has been blown by this I should have known that Imeo wouldn't have settled for that truly is a master of his craft

 

[imeothanasis]

NR-R-NR wires dont work guys. The reason is that a thermocaple is produced where the join of the different metals is and electronix is confused.

VIR is patent pending under the number that Ariel posted. Its a worldwide patent for one year. Then I have to refresh it

 

[Aal_]

I have an idea how to make NR wire work.

 

[imeothanasis]

say it aal

 

[Hernan Sabai]

Tell to us Aal