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[RandomFellow]

All right. Quick nitty gritty on US IP law. When someone has IP that they wish to protect, they can designate said item to "stake their claim". That is what a patent pending is about. It's the IP creator or owner staking their claim. Same goes for trademarks and service marks. If you see a business with a phrase, logo, or slogan, and it's followed by a little TM or SM, that means they are staking their claim. Once it has been submitted and approved (registered) by the USPTO, then they can switch to an R. Do a google image search for "I'm Lovin' it!", McDonald's trademark. You'll see different variations, and will see how it went from TM to R. Basically, same thing as patent pending and patented. The cool thing about all IP is that you could just register locally by state (just marks), nationally , and even internationally. Internationally is done through an organization created by the United Nations called the World Intellectual Property Organization. This organization will receive applications for international patent recognition. Your patent will eventually be awarded by your home country, but once accepted by the WIPO, will be registered with all of the member countries. Now, as far as Imeo's patent is concerned, I have no idea what is going on as I am not his local counsel. However, I'm sure he had a fine counsel that is taking care of all of this for him. Regardless of where he is in the process, if he is first to file, then he will have control of the IP.

 

[dilznic]

Thanks RF. I assume your last statement there depends on a few things like whether the patent is actually granted in the end, whether it is submitted and accepted by the WIPO and whether it ends up holding up.

I read the Evolv VW patent and I wouldn't be surprised if they had a case to claim that temp control (via power regulation) is already covered by their patent and/or that it represents an obvious extension.

Anyway, I'm excited to try temperature regulation. It's certainly very promising.

 

[ManniGfaltig]

Thumbs up for cooperating with Dr. Farsalinos, this way GG will be on the safe side of the ecig market!

 

[imeothanasis]

the most of the times the nr-r-nr atomizers will work but not always clavit. VIR may be confuced by the NR wire.
Its difficult for me to make GGTS work with VIR because of its moving pole

If you have more questions please tell me

So if i use nr-r-nr atomizers, this means that....... No, i can't figure it out! What does it mean? Will it work or won't it? What requirements have to be fulfilled for it to work?

And GGTS: Is it difficult for the user to use VIR with GGTS, or is it difficult for you to make GGTS work with VIR?

Sorry to be a pest, but your answers really didn't make me any wiser as to the possibility of using VIR with my old equipment

 

[imeothanasis]

Thanks RF. I assume your last statement there depends on a few things like whether the patent is actually granted in the end, whether it is submitted and accepted by the WIPO and whether it ends up holding up.

I read the Evolv VW patent and I wouldn't be surprised if they had a case to claim that temp control (via power regulation) is already covered by their patent and/or that it represents an obvious extension.

Anyway, I'm excited to try temperature regulation. It's certainly very promising.

evolv's patent is not covering temp control dil. In fact its totally irrelevant.
I hope that evolv and dicodes have read that VIR is patent pending.

 

[Aal_]

Imeo what do you mean it doesn't work with GGTS?
1- Can't we use GGTS with JustGG collector tank? Will it work then?
2- I saw people cutting the GGTS pin or maybe using the Stealth pin. Can't you make a new pin that is not moving?
3- What about GGTS with stealth cap?

I have 11 GGTS man! don't tell me i cannot use VIR on any of them!!

 

[Martino.]

If you replace the cup with pin telescopic GGTS with a stealth or a VIR Just then it works

 

[clavit]

the most of the times the nr-r-nr atomizers will work but not always clavit. VIR may be confuced by the NR wire.
Its difficult for me to make GGTS work with VIR because of its moving pole

If you have more questions please tell me

Thanks, i think i got it now

 

[kde01]

Imeo what do you mean it doesn't work with GGTS?
1- Can't we use GGTS with JustGG collector tank? Will it work then?
2- I saw people cutting the GGTS pin or maybe using the Stealth pin. Can't you make a new pin that is not moving?
3- What about GGTS with stealth cap?

I have 11 GGTS man! don't tell me i cannot use VIR on any of them!!

11 is a strange number. 12 is better. Get one JustGG and say you have 12 GG devices

 

[Aal_]

11 is a strange number. 12 is better. Get one JustGG and say you have 12 GG devices

Sorry man I mis counted. I have 7 ggts (plus 1 unused) at the moment after some playing around.

I just counted ggts ' s not all my GG's!

 

[kde01]

Sorry man I mis counted. I have 7 ggts (plus 1 unused) at the moment after some playing around.

I just counted ggts ' s not all my GG's!

Oh that poor unused one, it must be so lonely! Send it to me, I'll take care of it. I sold my Stealth last week and I'm already missing it so much...

 

[kde01]

Double post

 

[imeothanasis]

if we make some tricks then we can use vir on GGTS aal. Your 1, is right. Your 2. and 3. is right. We can think more ways too

Imeo what do you mean it doesn't work with GGTS?
1- Can't we use GGTS with JustGG collector tank? Will it work then?
2- I saw people cutting the GGTS pin or maybe using the Stealth pin. Can't you make a new pin that is not moving?
3- What about GGTS with stealth cap?

I have 11 GGTS man! don't tell me i cannot use VIR on any of them!!

 

[Rossum]

VIR is patented

VIR is patent pending

Ah, I see it went from "is patented" to only "patent pending".

I hope that evolv and dicodes have read that VIR is patent pending.

What makes you think Evolv and/or Dicodes haven't also filed patent applications? Remember I asked you what the priority date of your patent application is? That date is rather important.

 

[kde01]

Ah, I see it went from "is patented" to only "patent pending".


[/COLOR]What makes you think Evolv and/or Dicodes haven't also filed patent applications? Remember I asked you what the priority date of your patent application is? That date is rather important.

It's also important to note that he said the DNA40 works differently from the VIR. Imeo just mentioned he hoped they read the patent, not that he's going to sue their asses into oblivion.

I assume the patent is more to protect Imeo's product from counterfeiting or cloning. If Evolv's product is different, as Imeo says, then there's nothing to worry about for either party.

 

[dilznic]

There is a serious lack of actual information in this thread, so yeah it's all speculation at this point.

 

[dilznic]

Ah, I see it went from "is patented" to only "patent pending".

I think it's only fair to give Imeo the benefit of the doubt and assume the distinction was lost in translation.

 

[ksaipas]

Guys, respectfully, I am not quite clear what is all the fuss with Imeo's patent and its details. This is a matter that only Imeo should be concerned in order to protect his IP/rights to whichever extend is applicable. All I personally care about is the product and what it can do for us and the whole vaping community. Peace.

 

[67style]

This is a matter that only Imeo should be concerned in order to protect his IP/rights to whichever extend is applicable.

True words!

 

[glauserjg]

Well I for one look forward to anything imeo makes over anything else available

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