warning to v4l family --possible malware on ECF

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leeshor

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LOL - some of the best viruses were made for macs. You just don't know you have one.

You are SO correct. I know several PC users who do not use any anti virus software and have never been infected. With that said, 99% of infections require the user to intervene in order to infect the system and there are a few nasties out there that no anti virus software will stop if you click on the wrong thing and invite it in.
 

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the whole Mac/Linux argument about anti-virus, anti-malware is due to market share (security by obscurity). if you were a hacker trying to infect the most PCs possible, which would you target the OS with the biggest number of installations or the ones that are a much smaller install base? i've worked in the IT field for 12+ years. they are susceptible to the same types of attacks as PC users...the difference in most cases is that the malware isn't complied for those OSes (after all why bother with the 10% or less market?). Linux is safer than Mac OS for one simple reason...there's simply too many different distros to actually be effective. the biggest vulnerability to Mac is the same one that Windows users have and that is scamming/phishing. BTW Mac OS is more directly derived from NeXt & FreeBSD than unix (of course those have roots in Unix). if you really want to see what some of the main "hacks" are for Linux/Mac install an FTP server on them. the most often used attacks that can do dmg are base unix commands that will work on any unix based OS (i.e. lib-ssh, etc.).

(i have a "honey pot" ftp server setup on windows...i can't count how many times the lib-ssh hack has been tried. of course it doesn't work since it's running on Windows).
 

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Actually. PC or MAC I have never had a virus. I run protection programs on both(Mac is stable and safe but in now way virus free). Only had one attempt(well one attempt that got far enough for me to see it) and that was because a program could not be made to use firefox and I was forced to use IE. It's all in the security you use and keeping it up to date.
 

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i dislike McAfee & Norton both. their detection rates aren't as good as some of the free versions(actually i'm test driving Microsoft Security Essentials..and i'm not a big M$ fan either..so far it looks promising). i used to advocate using AVG before it became so bloated. Avast is a good alternative for now...unless they follow in AVG's footsteps. Spybot S&D is ok. Malwarebytes is very good. i do however prefer Ad-Aware. (if anyone decides to get Ad-Aware make sure you get it from Lavasoft's website...or you might accidentally download Adware...those sneaky hacker devils :D)
 

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the whole Mac/Linux argument about anti-virus, anti-malware is due to market share (security by obscurity). if you were a hacker trying to infect the most PCs possible, which would you target the OS with the biggest number of installations or the ones that are a much smaller install base? i've worked in the IT field for 12+ years. they are susceptible to the same types of attacks as PC users...the difference in most cases is that the malware isn't complied for those OSes (after all why bother with the 10% or less market?). Linux is safer than Mac OS for one simple reason...there's simply too many different distros to actually be effective. the biggest vulnerability to Mac is the same one that Windows users have and that is scamming/phishing. BTW Mac OS is more directly derived from NeXt & FreeBSD than unix (of course those have roots in Unix). if you really want to see what some of the main "hacks" are for Linux/Mac install an FTP server on them. the most often used attacks that can do dmg are base unix commands that will work on any unix based OS (i.e. lib-ssh, etc.).

(i have a "honey pot" ftp server setup on windows...i can't count how many times the lib-ssh hack has been tried. of course it doesn't work since it's running on Windows).

What'd you say, Willis??????????????
 

K24A3

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"attackers" target the most common software, i.e. Microsoft Windows, Internet explorer.

Do yourself a flavor and stay away from the majority. Firefox is probably the best solution atm on the Windows platform.

Or better yet, install a Linux OS and use Linux based firefox.

As for anitvirus, Avira seems to be the best free AV on the market imo. Spybot is great for handling spyware.
 
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