We have several B&Ms around and they are hit or miss. Some are great, some terrible, and then some of the terrible ones have good days. It is exhausting to hear what some B&Ms are spouting out of their mouths. Thankfully one just opened up really close to where I live and they aren't bad. The place is disorganized, but they are knowledgeable and good to bounce ideas off of.
Was Demanded to Leave a B&M Yesterday
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Yeah its hard to tell whether theyre intentionally upselling or if theyre just ignorant but Ive heard people in B&M's try and do this. One guy tried selling my friend who knew nothing about mods and only vaped a ego with a clearo some super powered 200$ mod and was telling her things that I knew werent true, and while i didnt want to make a fool out of him or make him out to be a liar right then and there, I said what I needed to to make sure she didnt make any purchases before we had a chance to talk outside the store about what was going on and what she would be buying before she did it. She was all about it though, Im sure if I wasnt there she wouldve walked out with whatever he tried to sell her.
Incidentally I did help the guy to sell another customer on an expensive mod so I guess that made up for it lol
Incidentally I did help the guy to sell another customer on an expensive mod so I guess that made up for it lol
There's a ton of things that bother me about the way people upsell or ignorantly sell a product that they know little about. First it's a safety issue. If not properly educated and researched about building coils, battery safety, testing your new builds, you might as well be sending someone out with a potential pipe bomb. The second issue I have is that if you set someone up with something that is way to advanced for them from the start, the most popular outcome is that they drop vaping and never go back. I've heard of people getting a mech as a first time unit with a coil the shop built. These people then send them off with 50/50 high nic juice and they get sick. Vaping is suppose to be a pleasant experience, however if vaping had been harsh and tasted terrible I wouldn't want to try it again. I know a few people that had a bad experience somewhere down the road within their first two months of vaping that made them pick up stinkers again and never look back. Shops need to realize they have a duty to do in order to help save/improve peoples lives. This isn't a business that should be used to sucker people into making a bad choice. Focus on selling someone a 40-80 dollar setup that works for them and ou gain a customer forever. With what they spend on upgrades, juices, supplies is where your money will be made. But setting someone up with a 200 dollar setup that they use for a month, hate it and move back to stinkers makes you no money.
Shops need to se logic. Is the 200$ now better then the 1000-????? They will make over the year per loyal customer?
Shops need to se logic. Is the 200$ now better then the 1000-????? They will make over the year per loyal customer?
Not necessarily, not any longer. Malls of ye olden dayes are rather desperate to fill empty space since the internet shopping revolution came along. That, combined with the perpetual (crappy) state of our economy, means either they lower costs for shop space to attract small merchants or they close. A lot of them just close. Buffy & Tammi don't do shopping malls any more.
Not to go too off-topic, but roughly once a year I will have to go to a mall to buy or look at some specialized item, etc. I have to say......without a doubt......with no reservations.....and no regret......I absolutely hate it. Whew, I feel much better now. 
Most of my o-ring wear is from unscrewing the top of my Kayfun and removing the polycarbonate tube to change the wick. Screwing and unscrewing those parts tends to wear the o-rings a bit over time. I need to order exact fit parts for my Kayfun. The kit I'm using is from an ebay source and the specs are off on the rings. The tube rings are small, but seal fine. The top cap chimney o-ring is a no-go. If I had original o-rings that meet factory specs I'd be better off. In spite of knockoff parts I've had to do almost nothing to the Kayfun except change a couple of o-rings in the 6 months I've had it. It just works and works.
In theory, but the only time I have dealt with them, they sold my boss a membership to make the complaint go away.
While I agree you did the right thing, and helped out a couple fellow vapers. I do not agree with bringing the kind of attention to the store that calling the bbb, posting on facebook, essentially 'reporting them' may bring. That kind of negativity surrounding vaping is not going to help anyone that wants to continue doing so.
Instead maybe you can help one step further, by finding out if the store has a manager or owner you could express your concerns to?
Instead maybe you can help one step further, by finding out if the store has a manager or owner you could express your concerns to?
The good, the bad, and the ugly...
Fast growing market ( of any commodity) always attracts some less savoury characters who are more interested in the quick buck.
Is like the used car salesman trying to unload that repainted junkheap on some unsuspecting customer.
Selling unregulated mech mods to newbies ... are they that blinded by greed that they fail to realize that it could literally backfire on both of them?
The newbie blows parts of his/her anatomy off - next thing is a lawyer piling the medical bills on your countertop and a fat suit on top of that.
Pennywise and poundfoolish...
Fast growing market ( of any commodity) always attracts some less savoury characters who are more interested in the quick buck.
Is like the used car salesman trying to unload that repainted junkheap on some unsuspecting customer.
Selling unregulated mech mods to newbies ... are they that blinded by greed that they fail to realize that it could literally backfire on both of them?
The newbie blows parts of his/her anatomy off - next thing is a lawyer piling the medical bills on your countertop and a fat suit on top of that.
Pennywise and poundfoolish...
While I agree you did the right thing, and helped out a couple fellow vapers. I do not agree with bringing the kind of attention to the store that calling the bbb, posting on facebook, essentially 'reporting them' may bring. That kind of negativity surrounding vaping is not going to help anyone that wants to continue doing so.
Instead maybe you can help one step further, by finding out if the store has a manager or owner you could express your concerns to?
I haven't named or shame the place on any public forums or social media. I also don't believe in making a huge stink on yelp and such. However I'm not one to care either way if I was to shame them. Sure bad publicity might be bad, but wouldn't a customer blowing off a finger or getting severe burns or having to have reconstructive face surgery be far worse for the vaping cause then calling out a vape shop with bad ethics?
I rarely stick my nose into anyone's business. I only do if it is worth the while. In my opinion this is bottom of my list.
Also I find it funny that you say you don't stick your nose in other peoples business if it's not worth your while, yet you chose to do that exact thing in someone's forum post. If that isn't hypocritical I don't really know what is.
While I also would probably not have said anything, that's mainly because I'm just that way with strangers, very introverted in public; I applaud your chutzpah heartily, for "sticking your nose in," and I bet those two aspiring vapers felt the same. Bully for you, good job!
I wish someone had been standing at the counter when the nimrods at the first vape shop I ever went to said that since I was a pk a day smoker, I needed 18mg... totally ignoring the fact that that pk a day had been ULTRA LIGHTS. It would have saved me nausea, stomachache, and terrible anxiety about whether or not I could make vaping work for me, if someone actually experienced with vaping had NOTICED that bit about "ultra lights" and pointed out that 18mg was likely much too strong for me. I realize that not everyone considers nausea that big a deal, but for some of us it's a real trauma, to be avoided at ALL costs -- those nimrods nearly cured me of vaping permanently.Andria
Comparing an apple and an orange. How is making an interjection on an internet chat board remotely the same as being out in public and shoving my nose in a place it does not belong? Everyone chimes in "Ohhh, great work! Nice Job! Good for you!" It is just such a joke to me. Everyone hops on the we must protect our fellow vapor from the B&M Boogey Man...Comical.
The same scene plays out a million times a day in vape shops across the land BUT GOOD FOR YOU!!!
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So I guess it's just fine with you to send someone out with something potentially dangerous right? If the coil came loose or the lead touched the and the user just kept smashing the fire button, because they didn't know any better, and BOOM explosion. I'm sure that that potential outcome is ok with you huh? Stopping somebody before they have a chance to have something dangerous happen is preventative measure. I was looking out for the safety of others along with trying to avoid another bullet for ANTZ to use against us. Keep on keeping on man, being silent and unhelpful. I'm sure you're a great person.
Did you want to get thrown out of the store? Did you think you would not get thrown out of the store? Do you judge the value of your character based on how many stores you can get thrown out of in any given day. It's like walking into a store, taking a leak on the middle of the floor than reporting hey!, this store threw me out today. YOU are such a GOOD person! You are on par with Underdog in your "do goodness."
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