Was vaping all it was cracked up to be?

[CaptJay]

Unfortunately it's not all it's cracked up to be, for me. Unfortunately. My brain still thinks analogs are "superior" to ecigs. I hope I can train my brain to see the ecig as superior soon. This is my last chance at quitting cigs. It's been 11 days and my 510 is still giving me wimpy vapor. That saddens me. I heard so many testimonials that the 510 had superior vapor production, I wonder what's wrong with it. I've tried other atty's and it still gives the same amt of vapor.

I went into this thinking ok i can finally quit smoking. But so far I've only been able to go down to 1/2 pack a day from over 1 pack. I may just need to try harder. (sigh)

/hugs
I wonder if thats the difference? I went into this without the expectation of quitting. I didn't want to quit. I just wanted to smoke less ciggies.
Btw you ARE smoking less, so that's a PLUS. Even small victories are victories.
Maybe take a step back and see your PV as a supplement right now - maybe your head isn't in the right place to stop smoking too.
I do feel for you on the low vapor thing - I hesitate to suggest you get more attys and see if the ones you have are just a bit pants as its more cash outlay.
Have you tried direct dripiing? I find that superior to using carts on my 510. I usually overstuff my cart filler making drawing a real pain, or I put too much juice in and flood it (I do that on direct dripping too but its easier to fix lol) so I decided to just do without it for the time being.

 

[Kurt]

Unfortunately it's not all it's cracked up to be, for me. Unfortunately. My brain still thinks analogs are "superior" to ecigs. I hope I can train my brain to see the ecig as superior soon. This is my last chance at quitting cigs. It's been 11 days and my 510 is still giving me wimpy vapor. That saddens me. I heard so many testimonials that the 510 had superior vapor production, I wonder what's wrong with it. I've tried other atty's and it still gives the same amt of vapor.

I went into this thinking ok i can finally quit smoking. But so far I've only been able to go down to 1/2 pack a day from over 1 pack. I may just need to try harder. (sigh)

xdunlapx, it sounds like your attys are weak. don't know how many you have, but I think you should get more. My 510 attys from Totally Wicked are strong for weeks, and I really bang on them. Try cleaning them in hot water, letting them dry overnight, and see if you can get a red glow from them. If you can't they are probably in need of replacing.

It could be your juice too...maybe too thin? A 510 should not have weak vapor. Since you are still buying smokes anyway, spend the money on attys instead. If nothing else, we gotta figure out why its not working right. I suggest posting details to the Joye 510 forum, and see what the pros say.

To the OP: exceeded, totally. My biggest worry in quitting smoking was would I be able to think as sharply as I need to in my field. Oh, ya, and then some. Better than while smoking, for sure. And I didn't expect all the little body issues I figured were permanent to just start healing up spontaneously. Or how much more physical energy I have. Yes, I do miss the convenience of just grabbing the pack of smokes and a lighter and heading out...now I have to make sure my tote case is fully packed for a day, and batts are charged, but its a small price.

With all this snow PA got, though, I don't miss having to make those late night 7-11 runs for cigarettes. And while I did invest a lot in hardware and juice, I'm now set for quite a while if I want, and the money is turning back to me now.

 

[quasimod]

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It's been 11 days and my 510 is still giving me wimpy vapor. ...
I may just need to try harder. (sigh)

Maybe. Have you tried learning the "direct inhale" vaping technique? It sounds crazy at first, and the first time it's pretty awful. However, with a little practice and perseverance, you will be getting huge vapor clouds out of that 510 in no time. It took me about a week to really get it down (you can't try it every single time at first). I don't do it every time, just when I really want/need a killer vape.

 

[grammyof4]

I just received my kit yesterday and haven't vaped very much yet. So, I'll eventually figure all of this out and hopefully soon will be able to better share my vaping experience

 

[AJMoore]

All that and then some. I too never thought it was the end of analogs for me, what a surprise, then day I got the batts charged up, that was the last day for analogs. I still have the FULL pack of analogs in the freezer, my last pack, and I don't feel the need. I think it's time to throw them out.

 

[xdunlapx]

Kurt,

I did buy two new atty's and they seem to behave just the same as my original two atty's. Perhaps I should buy them from Totally Wicked. I'll try that later. But right now I'm pretty stocked up on liquid and hardware so it'll have to wait until next month probably.

quasimod,

I have not tried direct inhale yet. The juice is pretty strong as it is, I just got used to the 24mg and it still a bit harsh on my lungs so I'm a little apprehensive to try direct inhale just yet. Thanks for the tip though.

 

[quasimod]

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I have not tried direct inhale yet. The juice is pretty strong as it is, I just got used to the 24mg and it still a bit harsh on my lungs so I'm a little apprehensive to try direct inhale just yet. ...

Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you weren't getting enough throat hit or nicotine, or the psychological balm of seeing the big vapor cloud.

Please don't discount this next bit out of hand, because it's the advice of many (other) experienced vapers who have had trouble. They recommend Snus or those flavored, dissolving tablets to get them through the rough patches. Yes, even the ladies, because it's unobtrusive and there is no spitting. You can find out a lot more in the "smokeless tobacco" sub-forum, and they are very helpful there.

 

[Kurt]

Kurt,

I did buy two new atty's and they seem to behave just the same as my original two atty's. Perhaps I should buy them from Totally Wicked. I'll try that later. But right now I'm pretty stocked up on liquid and hardware so it'll have to wait until next month probably.

quasimod,

I have not tried direct inhale yet. The juice is pretty strong as it is, I just got used to the 24mg and it still a bit harsh on my lungs so I'm a little apprehensive to try direct inhale just yet. Thanks for the tip though.

Then I'm going to say it is likely not the attys, although there is a chance it is. Maybe it is the juice. high or low nic should not be harsh on the lungs, but PG may well be doing that. See how some VG juice does. I can't do PG myself, as it is too harsh on the lungs...and mouth and throat. I only vape VG juices now. You can get USP VG from a drug store for about $4. I would try that.

But still make sure the atty is clean and gives a bright red-orange glow with a dry burn after it dries out. That will tell you if it is the atty or not. GL!

 

[Katattack]

Hard to say this early in for me (3 days) but I have cut back without trying from 2+ packs of analogs a day to about 3/4 of a pack. While I didn't expect to be one of the lucky "as soon as I vaped I was done with analog" people I had kinda hoped I would. Instead I'll count the 20-30 less analogs a day I smoke as 20-30 little victories.

 

[xdunlapx]

Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you weren't getting enough throat hit or nicotine, or the psychological balm of seeing the big vapor cloud.

Please don't discount this next bit out of hand, because it's the advice of many (other) experienced vapers who have had trouble. They recommend Snus or those flavored, dissolving tablets to get them through the rough patches. Yes, even the ladies, because it's unobtrusive and there is no spitting. You can find out a lot more in the "smokeless tobacco" sub-forum, and they are very helpful there.

I'm not getting enough vapor to visually enjoy it. I have used snus before. It did help me quit smoking for about a month then I freaked out for wahtever reason and bought a pack and have been smoking since.

I think I'm getting enough nicotine now that I'm using 24mg. I don't know why but I still feel the need to smoke a cig about every 2 hours or sooner. I just need to train my brain to accept the 510 as a (replacement) not a (substitute). I would love to have tons of vapor. OH I just checked my 3 atty's and none of them glow red. How long should I hold the button down? I held it down for no more than 5 seconds and still no red showing up. As suggested by another forum member earlier in this thread, I'm going to buy a few new atty's from Totally Wicked. They said that when they tried those the vapor was much better. So I could have just received bad atty's. Who knows.

 

[quasimod]

I'm not getting enough vapor to visually enjoy it. ...

You don't mention the brand of juice you're using, but I can absolutely recommend Tasty Vapor and ECOpure for big vapor.

Do consider getting some straight VG and vaping it. It's very cheap, and it will give you a very good idea of where your vapor-production problem lies. If you can't get big vapor from straight VG, you have a hardware problem or a technique problem. The taste is inoffensive, and it is quite a bit less harsh than PG.

 

[sheep]

Pick up some vegetable glycerin, as suggested above, and add a few drops to your juice. I did this and really noticed a difference in vapour.

 

[tarheeldan]

Absolutely exceeded my expectations! I lurked here for a while waiting for my first kit and had read some people saying that shortly after starting to vape they found they didn't really have an urge to pick up an analog. I didn't really think this would happen for me, and I was going into it with the attitude that I'd try this vaping thing and smoke an analog whenever I felt like it (no pressure).

Well, the experience of those posters was mine too! Just kept vaping and didn't really get an urge to pick up an analog until 2/5 when I had a big paper due. My second kit arrived the next day, a much better model and no analogs since then! A lot of it, I think, has to do with FSC's tasting awful....and vaping tasting so good!

xdunlapx: hope you get the vapor figured out, I'm sure it's been a bit of a frustrating process

 

[MsSki]

Im loving every moment!!! I love it and i never thought i would say that.
Tara

 

[Chasm]

Hard to say this early in for me (3 days) but I have cut back without trying from 2+ packs of analogs a day to about 3/4 of a pack. While I didn't expect to be one of the lucky "as soon as I vaped I was done with analog" people I had kinda hoped I would. Instead I'll count the 20-30 less analogs a day I smoke as 20-30 little victories.

Don't sweat it too much after only 3 days. I went from 2 ppd to 1 pack per week with the first puff on an ecig, but it took almost 2 months (climbing the learning curve, tracking down stronger nic juice, buying more batts, atts, chargers,etc.) before I smoked my last analog. And I didn't know that it was my last when it happened. I still have a pack and a half left from my last carton. I figure if I smoke 1 a year til they're gone I will live to be at least 92.

Oh - Yeah - ecigs definitely surpassed my expectations, I,m physically and psychologically healthier mand economically about a 1000 bucks richer.

 

[RanVapor]

I knew I would try to quit smoking when I hit 40, even though I really didn't want to. I still liked it, the whole process of it, but it made me feel and smell like crap. I didn't want to dip snuff, or chew, or suck on cigars, or pipes, or chew gum, or stick on patches, get hypnotized, caress magic crystals, or take pills to stop. And I knew cold turkey would be worse than anything.

When I first heard about E-cigs, I thought it was a scam and a gimmick. But then I heard a little more and started actively looking into it. When I realized there was so much more to it than radio ads and mall kiosks, then it was time to try it out. When I ordered my first kit, I did not know what to expect. But, when I took that first vape 3 weeks ago, I was amazed, and a convert from that day forward.

 

[Remie]

I discovered e-cigs by accident. It looked interesting so I started researching and found myself here at the forums.

I placed my first order with no real expectations of quitting smoking, just intrigued by the concept. I would have been thrilled if I was able to just cut down on the fire-sticks.

Wow, I was blown away. Because I'd done so much reading, I felt comfortable setting up and using my first e-cig. The first night I smoked two analogs, and haven't had the desire to light-up since.

No one was more shocked than me, a life-long 1.5+ pack a day Newport Light 100's smoker.

I just have no desire to smoke!

With 2 feet of snow on the ground and the blizzard two nights ago, it was so awesome to not have to drive to the gas station to buy smokes... I enjoyed that though so much

Vaping has far exceeded any expectations an I too enjoy it so much more than I ever thought I "loved smoking".

 

[maxx]

xdunlapx

Where are your cigs? If they are in the house, put them in your car and smoke outside only. Make it a little tougher on yourself. If you have ashtrays in the house...toss them out. If you smoked in the house...start cleaning and painting and washing..

I did all these things because I actually had low expectations for e-cigs. I went from 2+ packs a day to 2 cigs a day....and if it ended there, I would still call it a major victory, since my intent was saving money and getting my nic in non-smoking areas....and not necessarily outright quitting. My only problem areas are mornings (with coffee) and after dinner. I save my two cig allotment for those times. The cost is neglible for those two, so my initial goals are maintained (especially if I bum them from others). I have just scored some 100mg liquid and plan to boost my usual 36mg just a tad and put those last two problem areas to bed for good. If it doesn't work....I aint worried. I am still winning the game by far.

 

[Smix]

Going on 4 days with my new PV and NOT ONE analogue smoked since then. I've actually given away all my analogues to mates cause I don't think I'll ever be needing them again!

Vaping has definitely exceeded my expectations

 

[Skyspider]

I started with a rather negative outlook, after trying all the other quit options and failing, i wanted to quit after 44 years of tobacco burning. I am now not burning baccy at all, yes after all this time i have finally found something that keeps me satisfied and free from analogs, Can one marry a PV??????? hehe yes i love my 510.
My vaping experience is way way better than i expected